CODE DISCUSSION

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I want to add a few items here with some old finds .  This won't be my complete list of finds , not even close  , but want to highlight a few and ask again if there is another name / birthday so interwoven into the Zodiac letters attacks etc.....????

​7 + 1 + 4 + 3 + 4 = 19 = NE the start of Earl in the 408 7 + 14 + 34 = 55 55 + 19 = 74  19 to start Earl you will find RG to end the EVBJR name RG = 25  25 + 19 + 30 there are 30 positions between these 2 points = 74 also this point when counting down to it in the 408 is # 185 7/4 is day 185 a match .  The Next birthday number is 118 counting first column 7 + 1 + 3 = 11 0 + 4 + 4 = 8  or 118  when you add the extra cipher letters occupying the EVBJR name positions they add to 118 19 + 55 + 118 = 192 you will find 192 if you add up the plaintext letters in the final 18 of the 408.

​EVBJR = 147 forward and 354 backwards  there are 8 letters that can be reversed in earls name and they = 340, day 354 being the first attack on 12/20 1220 + 714 = 1934 eight eight eight = 147 EVBJR has 13 letters  , the last 13 positions in the 408 Start with I which is # 396 if you counted to it in the 408 the last 13 positions add to 147  You can also count the 118 letters backwards they would now = 136 = Zodiac birthday 115 + 7 + 14 = 136 the number in each 408 section.

​390 the end of the readable 408  text is  174 + 216  , 174 is TWO TWO TWO ( VB )  and 216 is the point that starts Best  this is day 195 + 7 + 14 = 216 and 195 - 7 - 14 using his birthday . The first 2 attacks counting the days to EVBJRS birthday add to 216 and the zodiac introduced himself on day 216 , note here that Earl did give his identity in the last section of the 408  , 118 readable letters to the final 18 . 390 total using all sections to that point . the 192 and  ( 147 within the final 13 )  numbers i just added . the 11/9 busbomb letter has 6 pages 6 x 119 = 714 also it is highlighted 1/6 2/6 etc this would add to 21/6 or 216

​Earls birthday using the Zodiac calendar falls on day 115 , the positions EVBJRS name falls on add up to 115 when counting completely down to it as an example 1 + 8 + 5 +  2+ 1 +5 +  2+ 1 + 6 etc... a match

​The dead center of his name at point 233 is the 7th letter + N or 14 + N T or 7 14 34  , there are 233 numbers on the berryessa car door . ( 118 + 115 = 233 )

​If you dont think he used the calendar  the first 3 attacks ( falling on day 8 using the 13 moon calendar from Richard Grinnells site ) are day 354 185 and 270  add with month and day 12 20 7 4 9 27 = 888  EVBJRS name the start and END points 215 and 185 + NERG = 444 the start of Van has VB and the start of Best has VB or 222  so 444 + 222 + 222 = 888

​7x 14 x 34 = 3332 -= 1220 74 927 1011 + 12 20 7 4 9 27 10 11 a match to the 4 confirmed attacks .

​2 more items you will like , first the total from adding all the EVBJR positions ( from the top )  in the 408 is 2671 = the dates he announced his attacks 731 927 and 1013 a perfect match to the positions of EARLVANBESTJR which add up to a number that matches the 3 i claim i did it dates.  2671  + 396 + 147 + 118 = 3332

​also using the second section only and counting down to the first letter positions of his name EVBJ = 66 79 80 and another 115 ​= 340

​You have the Haley letter find in the busbomb ABEST which when using the 408 positions add to 1220 and work with my EARL 444 find to solve the my name  .

​Halloween card name find  , 143 , other birthday finds , 216 714 , 147 , i'm leaving out as this post is long enough already ,  how about  4 ( 3 2 1 ) ( 0 ) 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 ( 8 )  43 + 42 + 41 + 87 + 86 + 85 + 84 +83 + 82 + 81 = 714  3 +2 +1 + 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 6 + 7 = 34 or 714 34

​Mike Hallifax

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what i have been trying to show in these posts is that Zodiac / EVBJR coded mathematically his identity. Primarily his birthday but other letters dates etc point back to his name in the 408 as well ( see my last post ) . That has been my theory which i have proven over and over again in my opinion.  as an example : EARLVANBESTJRS birthday is 7/14/34 if you take it  and represent it like this 7 x 14 x 34 = 3332 this number matches the 4 confirmed Zodiac attack dates when added. What i have also tried to do in the past is to determine for comparison  how many birthdays can create 3332 . here they are again 7/28/17  7/17/28 7/14/34 4/17/49 and 7/7/68 out of those 5 there is only one date that when using the Zodiac calendar and counting to one of those birthdays = 115 crazy how EARLS complete name in the 408 when you add the individual numbers from the EARLVANBESTJR positions = 115  His birthday falling on day 115

​Anyways onto the last 18 again in the 408.  The thought occurred to me when i found the number 147 in the last 13 positions of the cipher that 5 remained and that would be enough to place say a birthday like 7/14/34 5 positions then his name , just a thought? I'm going to take the leap at this point that this is how the last 18 is broken down . the plain text letters = 192  ( 19 + 55 + 118  all his birthday numbers )  192- 408 = 216  the B position from Best and the last 13 plain text letters adding to 147 ( maybe another 13 symbol cipher ).

​The positions before the last 5 positions after the end of the readable cipher are 391 392 393 394 and 395  , you could view them as 119 120 121 122 123 as well notice 119 and 123 as the bookends to this.  119 being the busbomb maildate 119 x the 6 pages = 714 and the 123 being the backend of the My name cipher.

​These 5 positions have plaintext EBEOR and cipher text VEXR when you substitute you have 5 2 5 15 18 22 5 24 18 and backwards 5 2 5 51 81 22 5 42 81 = 408 i'm not sure if 7 /14 /34 is there or not but what i do know is that 408  ( 4) 3 2 1 ( 0 ) 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 ( 8 ) or 43 42 41 87 86 85 84 83 82 81 added ( all heading to zero ) = 714 with 3 + 2 + 1 + 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 6 + 7  = 34 or 714 34 an unbelievably clever way to hide and represent your birthday.

​How about this 3332 another way he represented his birthday , using the dates of the attacks to mimic this number, and 731 x 4 parts + 408 = 3332 etc   , for what it is worth yes i am saying that Zodiac already had the dates of his attacks planned before he created the 408. Thats another discussion for later .

​The 5 positions that create 408 before the last 13 can also be viewed by row and number , i actually need to revisit the EVBJR positions . so by row first then number in that row , 2317 241 242 243 244  when added these numbers = 3287 now add EBEOR to this number = 3332

​Remember if anyone is actually following this that a few posts ago i counted up the first letter of every word all the way to the E which starts the last 18 , i added to 1220 the date of the first attack met with crickets.... Paradice being the only one to follow this and say you know what youve proven it , well for a short time anyways :) everyone else crickets....

​Well that 1220 To that E  , 1220 is day 354 354 is EVBJRS name added backwards. Guess what number collides with that 1220  the number 354 to start the last 18 . remember in the past i mentioned that zodiac wanted the 408 to be broken and the cipher itself is coded around itself? I didn't want to go to crazy with it as even presenting the straightforward people get stubborn don't want to believe what they are seeing etc plus it would complicate this even further and i like straight forward and simple, anyways....  I just posted the EVBJR positions = 2671 = the dates when the zodiac claims responsibilty for his attacks 731 927 1013  the very first position of the last 18 is 2317 ( using row and number ) - 2671 = 354 This shouldn't happen unless someone makes it happen.

EARL VAN BEST JR is the Zodiac

Mike Hallifax

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Here's an add to Haley's  ABEST letter find on page 3 of the letter . Notice how he directs you there with his PS.....   The XED out positions on the Zodiac symbol are 6 8 9 10 11 these positions match up perfectly with his letter find , as ABEST letters are the 6th 8th 9th 10th and 11th positions . Using the 408 and  EARLVANBESTJR S  and positions , counting down to ABEST are 216 217 218 219 and 234 add ABEST and WVEKH the cipher letters and this = 1220 the first confirmed attack , day 354 on the calendar . 5 1 81 21 22 1 41 2 5 91 21 81 91 that's EARL VAN BEST JR backwards = 354

THE xed out numbers = 44 the in other numbers on the symbol = 34 multiply by 44 and divide by 2 and you get 748 the 408 + 340 or 714 + 34  I've already mentioned 119 x 6 pages = 714

He puts his last name here PS. BE S(h)ure T  notice he adds an H the eighth letter in the alphabet  , BE SHURE T is 8 letters , B in BEST is the 8th letter in his name 888 This matches his name too EIGHT EIGHT EIGHT = 147 EVBJR forward .

BESHURET = 98 = 7x14 using 1 2 3 4 5 7 12 from the symbol = 34

One last thing here I know I have never posted ,  that 98 + 34 = 132 the 408 was mailed on day 132 using the Zodiac calendar , a little add to my last 18 post that I which starts the last 13 which in turn = 147 that I is at 396 3 parts x 132 for some reason I didn't post this with that post.

Anyone .... ????

Mike Hallifax

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EARL VAN BEST JR = ZODIAC KEY
EARL VAN BEST JR = ZODIAC KEY
I wrote this up a little sloppily  , a lot easier showing than trying to explain this one.  like I have said in the past the Key to the 408 and the Zodiac is the name EARL VAN BEST JR and how he represented himself using his birthday. He built the 408 cipher around his name and birthday , using dates of attacks and mail dates etc to represent his identity and point back to his name in the 408 ( Halloween card too ) but most importantly CONFIRM he was the Zodiac.

So basically you write EARL VAN BEST JR  , there are 2 E s so you place 2 under the E 2 As so a 2 under A etc...  EARL has the number 2221 under it  that number = the first 3 attack dates added  ( the 888 attacks as I have shown and = 147 )  Van is Earls birthday day of the year 195 - the 2nd attack 74 = 7 + 14 + 34 + 7 + 1 + 4 + 3 +4  so his birthday - 2 different ways to represent his birthday , Best is the 3rd and 4th attacks one by date and one by calendar day. JR I'm still looking at .

The 7 4 5 3 number is adding up the amount of letters under each section of name. I inverted it to produce the 215 , 233 is the result of adding up the separate #s  against Earls 7 x 14 x 34 = 3332 / attack dates #   the my name mail date 420 is tied in as well using it 7 x EARL etc...  also produces the # 714 EVBJRS birthday  , 195 is created by taking E x 2 A x 2  etc...  110 the day of the year the my name was mailed is here as well TWO x 6 - ONE x 7 = 110

He coded his name and birthday into everything that happened  , every attack , every letter , the 408 3 parts etc... everything had a purpose.  Can you see the methods he used ???

Mike Hallifax

I have something else i'm working on not as big as the above but will put more rebar and cement on this . EARL VAN BEST JR was the Zodiac..... Anyone ???

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Here s a little 340 add to my previous work  , not sure why I never posted it before ? anyways this is the 3rd 340 involving EVBJRS name.  The backwards letters RLVNSTJR ,  the FIRST letters to his name using the second section only EVBJ or 66 79 115 80 by position = 340

Using the complete cipher counting down to the EVBJR positions = 2671 = the first letter dates 731 927 and 1013 where he first claims his attacks .  Count up to these same positions from the bottom this will add to 2331 the difference between the 2 numbers 2671 - 2331 = 340 this is the 3rd 340 associated with his name . Again he uses positions within the cipher to create numbers which represent him in some way. These same positions have the letters NBWTVEKHFG = 118 the 340 mail date.

There is an interesting thread that sandy just referenced involving 333 , MTMTEIIEBTGYROWAGT ( B) est those are all the first letters to the B in BEST second section only , if you invert the letters  T = 2 Y = 52 etc these first letters add to 333 He mailed the 408 cipher in 3 parts 3 newspapers 3 same but separate mailing dates  , notice that the total 2671 matches up with 3 mailings as well. the first 3 murders by day of year and month day = 888 3 8s  those same 888 rip through EVBJRS name diagonally at points  215 233 and 251ENV  so the 1st 7th and 5th positions in EVBJRS name I simply want to add 175 + 215 + 233 + 251 = 874 the difference from 888 is 14 that N is a mistake during ciphering N = 14

One other item if you use the second section only and find the difference between counting up and down to EVBJR you still get 340

I'm not sure what you guys are waiting for here ??? these same positions In the 408 which house his name add to 115 the day of the year of his birthday using the Zodiac calendar.  Never mind everything else.

Mike

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Gave it a heading with some other work and another birthday find didn't realize it would open a new folder I'm happy keeping it with my other code work so i'll repost part of it , sorry about the hand writing .

Mike Hallifax

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here it is

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I have more don't worry :)

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my opinion is that Z wasn't an evil genius that knew cryptology that no one else knew

Contrary, he was a big (not dumb not smart) simpleton.

The vast majority of murderers (and especially serial murderers) are not highly intelligent or smart (have you ever watched The First 48 ?) They have let emotions control them. That's not an intelligent analytical (logical) way of committing a crime.

The solution to Z's codes are either very simple (like a school teacher figured out in two weeks) or there is no solution at all.

This isn't Alan Turing cracking the Enigma Code as much as everyone seems to want to romanticize about.

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Zaikgeist wrote: my opinion is that Z wasn't an evil genius that knew cryptology that no one else knew

Contrary, he was a big (not dumb not smart) simpleton.

The vast majority of murderers (and especially serial murderers) are not highly intelligent or smart (have you ever watched The First 48 ?) They have let emotions control them. That's not an intelligent analytical (logical) way of committing a crime.

The solution to Z's codes are either very simple (like a school teacher figured out in two weeks) or there is no solution at all.

This isn't Alan Turing cracking the Enigma Code as much as everyone seems to want to romanticize about.
Hi Zaikgeist,

Thanks for your opinion .

I have watched 48 hours , usually those murders take place due to confrontation , an argument , some one stole drugs , didn't pay etc.... most of the murders were not necessarily planned.  one of them I remember started as road rage and escalated to murder. I agree its pretty dumb to chase someone into a parking lot that may have slighted you somehow pull out a gun and when you think they are reaching for a gun kill them.

I'm not sure however how ( single events)  murders out of rage compare to a serial killer and especially a unique one like zodiac ? He even gave himself a name , sent out letters , etc... How many do that ?

I wouldn't let the fact that school teachers solved the cipher fool you. In my opinion he wanted it solved because it was built around his identity. No one would see his name and move on  , the whole time the complete # 408 held his birthday and the last section broken at 118 characters did as well.  Even the broken cipher shows a certain intelligence, it certainly fed his Ego look at me I just got away with 2 different attacks , I coded in my name birthday etc.... and you don't see it.

I wonder why Zodiac went out of his way to make sure everyone Knew he attacked on 12/20 7/4 9/27 and 10/11 then made future claims without proof ? I know why.

Zaik one problem here is that EARL VAN BEST JR  and his birthday keep getting hit over and over matching up to the attacks , letters etc... Its astronomical how many things combined point back to him and how many things occur at his name in the 408.

Why because EARL VAN BEST JR is the Zodiac.

Mike Hallifax

Tom its good to see all the activity over here . Thanks