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armchairpeye
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Joined: 24 Feb 2007, 01:37

13 Mar 2007, 06:11 #1

This thread is for discussion related to and of interest to Zodiac Hunter "sandy betts".
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DrDoogie
DOJ
Joined: 05 Mar 2007, 19:12

13 Mar 2007, 18:24 #2

This was orginally posted on another thread, but was requested to posted here. It concerns the exchanges between Sandy and 12th House."??????? Sandy, what in the world are you saying here? You are his slave? I heard your interview on the A&G radio show a couple of weeks ago and thought they were a little harsh, but this series of posts has me now wondering if they were right. I do not mean this as an insult, but as an honest observation."
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sandy betts
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Joined: 23 Feb 2007, 23:25

13 Mar 2007, 18:58 #3

Rank: Joined: 23 Feb 2007 Posts: 39 Post subject: I understood that the bomb the Z was writing about was not the bus bomb of April 70, but a newer one in June of 70 ? He seemed to tell us he had given up on the first bomb and "claimed" to have shot a man in a car with a 38 in place of that bomb as punishment, is how I read the note . If that is all wrong then the only place that has a hill in the direction of the arrow on that map would be Kirker Pass rd near Clayton, after that it is pretty flat for as far as you can see. I believe that "arrow" is a pretty good clue for the direction he chose for the bomb. There is nothing about a radian in the note the Z mailed on June 26th 1970 about that bomb. He realized that most people were too stupid to figure it out with a radian, so he gave a very easy clue to find the newer bomb
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ForumerDeletedUser
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Joined: 01 Jan 1970, 00:00

13 Mar 2007, 19:11 #4

I posted this in a different thread awhile ago but got no response. So....I will try again: Sandy, how has Kane(or who ever it is that keeps calling you) kept track of your phone numbers over the years? I'm assuming of course, that like most people in your situation, you would have changed your number(multiple times if necessary) and requested that it be unlisted. The one thing that I do know about Kane is that he has very limited resources and its hard to imagine that he would have the kind of access to continually track down your number and address. Now if you have had the same number, or have always had your numbers listed, then disregard the above inquiry. The question then becomes, why havn't you changed your number?
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sandy betts
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Joined: 23 Feb 2007, 23:25

13 Mar 2007, 19:24 #5

Mr. Doogie, I was referring to how he wanted me to behave ( like his slave ). You and no one else as posters knows the pm that the 12th house and I have, so don't jump to conclusions ! You are taking words out of context. You obviously don't know me or my lifes story. How is it you can read my PM ? Only Tom and the other moderators like "Ed" can see what I write. You can think what you like, my friends know me and what I am about they are the ones who matter to me.
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sandy betts
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Joined: 23 Feb 2007, 23:25

13 Mar 2007, 19:48 #6

Exiled, I don't read every message every day ,I am sorry that I didn't see your question before. Sometimes I don't check the board for weeks, I get bored with the sameo, sameo nasty remarks made by some of the posters to other posters who have worked just as hard if not harder than they have on investigating there suspects. I feel very sorry for a person who feels so small, that he has to put down others to make himself look bigger and better. Kane or whom ever the man is that has taken pleasure in calling, sending notes, firing shots at me, and so forth. Is able to trace my moves through paper work just like I have him, it is very easy. My phone is unlisted and has been changed many times to no avail. He doesn't bother me like he once did before I took his picture. I told him that I gave his picture to the police. I don't live in fear of him . Don't underestimate Kane he is very healthy, and even though he has some brain damage, he is smarter than most of your average joe's. His IQ is still over 160 ! When I do get those calls, it tells me he is back in town, so its a good thing.
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DrDoogie
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Joined: 05 Mar 2007, 19:12

13 Mar 2007, 20:05 #7

Mr. Doogie, I was referring to how he wanted me to behave ( like his slave ). You and no one else as posters knows the pm that the 12th house and I have, so don't jump to conclusions ! You are taking words out of context. You obviously don't know me or my lifes story. How is it you can read my PM ? Only Tom and the other moderators like "Ed" can see what I write. You can think what you like, my friends know me and what I am about they are the ones who matter to me.
Sandy, I don't think I was taking anything out of context - I was asking you to clarify the context. Of course, I do not know the contents of your PM's or your life story (beyond what you have shared with us here on the forums). What I do know is the following:* You are communicating with "12th House" who you have stated on another thread is not the Zodiac.* 12th House seems to be privy to information that either only the Zodiac would know or is the product of a hoaxter (decoding the cipher, mentioning names that appear to be unknown victims, etc.)* 12th House is using communication that either matches or mimics the Zodiac (mispellings, words, etc.).The only alternatives that I can see out of these facts:1) You are mistaken and 12th House is the Zodiac.2) 12th House is a hoaxter jerking your chain.3) 12th House is sincere, but sincerely a kook.It is within this framework that I was trying to understand the use of the terms "slave" and "paradice".
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ForumerDeletedUser
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Joined: 01 Jan 1970, 00:00

13 Mar 2007, 20:31 #8

Sandy, first of all thank you for the response. I was just curious as to how you thought Kane was contacting you.I have never had much interest in Kane as a viable Z suspect, but have often wondered if he could have been involved in Donna Lass' disappearance(I don't subscribe to Lass as a Z victim).Ironically, I worked as a P.I. for nearly 14 years, so I am very familiar with skip-tracing techniques. According to DPSST records, Kane has never applied for a P.I. license(his exsisting criminal record would disqualify him anyway), so for him to have the necessary access to continually track you, he would've had to hire a P.I. or someone with access to skip-tracing databases.So far I have found nothing to indicate that he generates any income outside of his SSI alotment(97.00 per month), so it would probably be out his financial reach to hire a private investigator. Do you know if he has any friends/associates that happen to be P.I.'s or former LE ?Also, you have stated that Kane has an I.Q. over 160????....wow! What is your source for this?
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DrDoogie
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Joined: 05 Mar 2007, 19:12

13 Mar 2007, 20:46 #9

... so for him to have the necessary access to continually track you, he would've had to hire a P.I. or someone with access to skip-tracing databases...
Based on easily accessible information on the internet (and with just a few minutes of work), I was able to obtain an address (not known if it is current), a phone number and a list of relatives for Sandy. I mention this only to show how easy it is for a non-PI to get this info. Sandy: Is the man who you claim has been stalking you for all these years Larry Kane? Is Kane also "12th House"?
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ForumerDeletedUser
DOJ
Joined: 01 Jan 1970, 00:00

13 Mar 2007, 20:58 #10

Dr. Doogie, Absolutely....that info eventually makes its way there(people finder, etc...), but for someone who has been continually harrassed, at some point you have to contact the police(I just went through this process), when you are assigned an unlisted and secured phone # you will not be able to find it by using a simple online database.I just tried to look up my info using the same approach....It showed me living in NY(I live in Calif. now) and does not give my unlisted phone #.Finding specific and current info on someone is not as easy as you think.
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