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I tend to agree. Anyone trying to make sense of Zodiac using astrology is on a snipe hunt, IMO. He doesn’t reference anything astrological in the authenticated letters. As far as I can recall none of the major suspects showed any interest in astrology.ZteveMcQueen wrote:TomVoigt wrote:
If you go by the content of the authenticated communications, excluding the ciphers, the symbol appeared 25 times, while the name "Zodiac" only 12. Not counting the symbol on both the costume and car door, which boosts it to 27 to 12 in favor of the symbol. And of course, he used the symbol in three letters before coming up with the name.
I believe the name was merely an afterthought.
Those two things really are fairly interesting.Bolt wrote: That's a good point. They typically used inflatable boats for ab diving at Salt Point.
zedsdeadbaby wrote: I definitely think the Zodiac name had little to do with astrology as there's no ref to it in any of the writings. It's common knowledge ALA had a Zodiac watch. Has anything ever been made of 'Zodiac' brand inflatable boats? That would be another tie to ALA with his skin diving. He probably became infatuated with the word.
Good analysis (although I lost interest in the Avery case early on). Reminds me of the conspiracy of the Royal Family’s minions that “murdered” Princess Diana... they would need to have known about the route changes, that Henri-Paul would be drunk, etc.).I-Love-You wrote: If the costume meant something special to him...why did he give it to a person that he was stalking?
Is it possible that the killer wasn't the zodiac at all? And the writing on the car came from one of the detectives, who saw and seized the opportunity to post the murder on the zodiac?
I don't think that's what happened - it was probably the same person.
(DON'T READ THE NEXT PART IF YOU GET TRIGGERED EASILY. IT IS OFF-TOPIC. It has NOTHING to do with the Zodiac Case. DONT READ if an off topic rant makes you angry. Just skip it!!!!!!! I'm just eating dinner and listening to a guy go off on what a brilliant documentary the Avery one was. Even tho the documentary is as accurate as Graysmith's Book. There are still clowns out there that believe it. )
BUT it is funny how everybody's reaction to my question would no doubt be negative. But if you talk to people about another famous case - the Steve Avery murder case - people will swear up and down that the police framed Avery for the murder he committed that was made so famous by the HORRIBLY biased documentary on Netflix. That documentary is less factual than Graysmith’s. (Shortened for brevity)
SORRY FOR THE OFF TOPIC.
Hello,TejasRob wrote:That we know of. It maybe the only time he wore it and someone lived to tell about it.ZteveMcQueen wrote:
He only wore the hood at Lake Berryessa.
Someone had lived to talk after his last attack before Berryessa, that might have been a reason why he wore the hood, along with the LB attack being in the daytime.It was still daylight out, and people have made the reasonable point that he needed something to conceal his face.
Very true. It took time to make that hood, it meant something to him.Thing is, he could have done that with a ski mask.
There's that theory, which I don't believe, but I suppose it's possible, that he filmed the attack and wore the hood so he would not be seen on the film.Too, he walked to the crime scene without the hood. People in the park saw him without it. Even Cecilia Shepard briefly saw him before he put on the hood. If the hood was to hide his face he didn't use it very well.
It would have failed with me. If I saw him walking toward me with that hood on, he would have had to shoot me in the back as I was running away, it would have scared the sheet out of me.Some people think he wanted to scare his victims, but the plan he executed was exactly the opposite. He kept them calm and under control by telling them he only wanted their car to escape to Mexico. Wearing a scary outfit was counter to the plan.
I believe you are spot on. He was really acting out his Zodiac alter-ego. Gave him a real thrill. I agree with Tahoe that it is a bit odd he didn't say anything about being Zodiac, but he might have thought they knew who he was and was surprised by their reaction. Hartnell was a cool customer, probably threw Zodiac off a bit.I tend to think the costume wasn't for his victims, it was for him. With his crimes and his letters Z seems to have been playing a role or acting out a script in his head. I think of the Lake Berryessa costume as comic book supervillain cosplay.