MY RECENT VISIT TO THE VALLEJO POLICE DEPARTMENT: BEHIND THE SCENES, BY TOM VOIGT OF ZODIACKILLER.COM


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Druzer
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19 Nov 2017, 19:47 #31

Hi Tahoe, do you believe that Jim Phillips is both the 'Unknown Man' pictured with Darlene (possibly circa 66) as well as the 'Suited Man' pictured in the photograph Tom saw recently in the evidence room (presumably circa 69/70)? I would have assumed so, but Tom's comments suggest otherwise.
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19 Nov 2017, 20:05 #32

Thanks Tahoe, Tom and I will just have to agree to disagree. That picture as far as I and some of his friends ate concerned, is Jim Phillips. Friends of both of them have stated that is Jim Phillips , Dee's ex. 
About the autopsy report, perhaps there was a typo? Everyone else in her family are much shorter. I asked her sister about that measurement and she said Darlene was shorter than 5ft 5. She said that her father had mentioned Darlene was short. I am 5ft , she could have been a inch or two taller than me. 
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19 Nov 2017, 20:12 #33

Based on the other info in the file, it was not Darlene's ex-husband.
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19 Nov 2017, 20:15 #34

Druzer wrote: Hi Tahoe, do you believe that Jim Phillips is both the 'Unknown Man' pictured with Darlene (possibly circa 66) as well as the 'Suited Man' pictured in the photograph Tom saw recently in the evidence room (presumably circa 69/70)? I would have assumed so, but Tom's comments suggest otherwise.
No...two different people.
"Sometimes the questions are complicated and the answers are simple". Dr. Suess   
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19 Nov 2017, 20:46 #35

Thanks! A very strange coincidence I suppose. Tom, is there anything particularly interesting in this guy's file you could share? Do you know how he was cleared or whether he was cleared? He sure looks the part!
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19 Nov 2017, 22:11 #36

I Hey Tom
I check in once in awhile- Have no idea how to use this site and I wrote this once, but think it got eaten ??
It's eerie how my path has crossed this Z case-
I grew up in the east bay and my family went waterskiing every weekend at Lake Berryessa, about 1960-66.  Most Saturday mornings, we'd stop in Vallejo, at what was then, Terry's Waffle Shop for breakfast.  I was also dealing poker at the Sahara Tahoe, the night Donna Lass disappeared.  Unrelated, but the FBI investigated me for the Harveys Casino bombing in 1980 because I had been in the Navy and gambled there (that's a different but interesting story).  I never spent time in Riverside, but did go to Santa Monica CC in '68.  Now the guy Ross Sullivan comes up- I was living in 17th Ave in Santa Cruz in 1976-77 !!  
I'm not attempting to make myself any kind of suspect, just finding it very coincidental ??
Please direct me to anything new
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20 Nov 2017, 00:52 #37

bamonson wrote: Sidney Poitier?  WTF?
I looked this guy up and his movies. Maybe it's a link to one of his movies. Maybe Zodiac liked those movies.
1988 Shoot to kill, aka Deadly Pursuit outside of North America. Just a random thought. Zodiac did seem to enjoy movies....
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20 Nov 2017, 14:38 #38

sandy betts wrote:
BayArea60s wrote:
TomVoigt wrote:
Different guy pictured above, not Darlene's ex-husband.
Congratulations Tom on getting inside an evidence room.  It was long overdue...Your heart must have been racing...Good luck on future visits....You know I've seen that picture of James Phillips before.  I don't know where, maybe someone posted on your site, or another site, I don't know.  the guy is a dead ringer for someone I grew up with, so when I first saw it years ago I had to laugh.  Memory cells just don't allow me to recall where I could have seen it.....
BA60's, I posted pictures of Jim Phillips in high school and his graduation picture on this site yrs ago. Some of those pictures were copy and pasted to Morfs site.You could have seen the pictures at either site. I have seen Jim Phillips in person and know that all of those pictures are him. If you went to school near Redding Ca, that is where Jim went to high school. He was in grammar school down south in southern Calif. The only thing that has changed over the yrs , is that his hair got lighter the hair style is no longer a darker crew cut and he has gained weight , his face is more full than in the 60's.Still wares very thick glasses , he looks more like 5ft 9 or10 than 5ft 6. Ed N is 5ft 6 ,he was with me when we encountered Jim Phillips in Santa Cruz mid to late 90's.. Ed was shorter for sure, I told Ed that I was a bit afraid of Jim, he assured me not to worry that he was a black belt in Karate. I had no reason not to believe him LOL. Jim was dressed like a hippi with long hair and started to lunge at us, then backed off as we walked to Ed's car. The person at the recorders office was Jim;s friend and knew that we were headed to the library down town, he had to have phoned Jim to tell him that we were looking up records on him. Apparently that upset Jim and so he went to the library where we were. I recognized him from the picture I had of him and asked him if he was Jim Phillips? He denied it and waited outside of the library until closing to taunt us I guess? He gave the impression that he was mentally unstable, I can see why Darlene was so afraid of him.
Now that's a strange encounter.  Aren't you about 6'3"?  Yeah that would qualify Phillips as mentally unstable in my book.  he finds the biggest guy in the library to further harass, then lays in wait outside cause he wasn't Jim Phillips and you dared to ask him if he was.  Yeah Phillips that's a normal reaction...
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21 Nov 2017, 18:23 #39

BA60's I am not 6ft 3, I am 5ft , but pretty tall for my height LOL. Jim has very full fish like lips , thick glasses, stubby nose and squinted blue eyes, making it pretty easy to recognize him. Even when he dresses in a nice suit ! The idea that he denied being Jim , says a lot about him. He also denied being the mystery man , yet friends who knew both Jim and Darlene said that it was for sure Jim in that picture. So why should we believe him over so many others who knew him?
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21 Nov 2017, 20:11 #40

Sandy....I've heard this denial trait of Jim before.  He was about 5'10", somewhere in there?  Are you saying this pic that Tom posted in this thread is the same Jim Phillips, Darlene's ex?  I know people change but that doesn't look like any pic I've ever seen of Phillips before.  Much more clean cut than I've ever seen, or would expect to see from Darlene's ex.  From what I've ever heard of Mr. Phillips I would never believe anything he says.  I found it interesting that he denied being Phillips to Tom, yet was pissed enough to wait for him and Ed.  Is he still up in Redding area.  somewhere in my notes I have a lot of info on places he lived.  None of it current, unless he hasn't moved in 3-4 years.  I remember tracking him out fairly well. 
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