Joseph Bevilacqua

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May 29th, 2018, 1:59 pm #1

Not saying this is the guy, seems pretty weird to me, but this popped up on reddit today and apparantly this guy confessed to being both the monster of Florence AND the zodiac. Turns out he even provided the solution to the "My name is___" cipher. I'm not from italy, but apparantly this is a pretty big deal over there right now and there is a lot of news articles about it available in the reddit thread with a terrible google translated version. Will be interesting to see how this develops



I have collected all the info i could find in the thread and i will paste it here, so it's easier for everyone. The article is also in italian, so it might be hard for people to understand seeing as the translations is bad.

"He apparently moved to Riverside in 1966 and Santa Rosa in 1969. From 1974 to 1989 he has been the director of the Florence American Cemetery and Memorial, 300-400 mt from where the last murder of the Monster of Florence took place."

"They argue that the man has shown the correspondence between the length of his name and the Zodiac cypher."

"Tempi is in possession of the solutions of the encrypted messages of the Zodiac Killer concerning his identity. The Florence Public Prosecutor's Office is informed." (Tempi is a magazine with a very strong reputation, so they are taking a risk if this is all bullshit)

"Basically in the Monster of Florence trial there were one of the suspect (an angry crazy old man Mario Vanni) that named "Ulisse" an american man that no one ever considered to look for.

Now some reporter find him and ask him about that and he admitted to be Zodiac and MDF. He said that he never admitted anything because ppl was covering him and he didn't want to put them in a bad position"

And both the cases do have some similarities. This is not the first time someone has "confessed" though, so it's most likely just a guy seeking attention, but it's interesting and worth looking into
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May 29th, 2018, 5:22 pm #2

I wish there was something written in English. Even with translation, it is very clunky and difficult to read.
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May 29th, 2018, 5:47 pm #3

Yes, i know and it sucks. Some comments in the reddit thread have summed up some things. I'll paste it here so its easier for everyone

"He apparently moved to Riverside in 1966 and Santa Rosa in 1969. From 1974 to 1989 he has been the director of the Florence American Cemetery and Memorial, 300-400 mt from where the last murder of the Monster of Florence took place."

"They argue that the man has shown the correspondence between the length of his name and the Zodiac cypher."

"Tempi is in possession of the solutions of the encrypted messages of the Zodiac Killer concerning his identity. The Florence Public Prosecutor's Office is informed." (Tempi is a magazine with a very strong reputation, so they are taking a risk if this is all bullshit)

"Basically in the Monster of Florence trial there were one of the suspect (an angry crazy old man Mario Vanni) that named "Ulisse" an american man that no one ever considered to look for.

Now some reporter find him and ask him about that and he admitted to be Zodiac and MDF. He said that he never admitted anything because ppl was covering him and he didn't want to put them in a bad position"

And both the cases do have some similarities. This is not the first time someone has "confessed" though, so it's most likely just a guy seeking attention, but it's interesting and worth looking into
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May 29th, 2018, 6:38 pm #4

I'm aware of the Monster of Florence case, but I don't know a ton about it. There are some interesting connections between MDF and Z.

1.) MDF wore a size 44 shoe which I believe equates to a US size of 10.5 (same as Z) or 11.
2.) Z used a .22 with Winchester ammunition at LHR and MDF used a .22 with Winchester ammunition.
3.) Both used knives and guns.
4.) Both sent letters. Z included a piece of Stine's shirt in some letters, MDF a piece of his victim.
5.) MDF targeted couples as did Z for his first three confirmed attacks.
6.) MDF is thought to be at least 5'9" which would be consistent with descriptions of Z.
7.) Media coverage seemed important to both killers.
8.) MDF and Z may have been around the same age.

However, there are some notable differences.

1.) The most famous sketch of MDF looks nothing like the SFPD sketches of Z.
2.) Z never mutilated or violated his female victims.
3.) I'm going to guess that MDF is believed to be Italian with dark hair, while Fouke believed that the man that he saw on the night of the Stine murders was of Welsh ancestry with light colored hair.
4.) If Z moved away from the Bay Area, then I would think that he would avoid using a similar MO if he continued killing. If LE suspected Z in any new murder cases, then that could potentially narrow the suspect list significantly. My guess is that Z would be smart enough to avoid that scenario.
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May 29th, 2018, 9:14 pm #5

dirtyharry18 wrote: 3.) I'm going to guess that MDF is believed to be Italian with dark hair, while Fouke believed that the man that he saw on the night of the Stine murders was of Welsh ancestry with light colored hair.
Was looking into this today, too. As I understood it, it was mentioned in one article that I read that the guy is not all that Italian ethnically (despite the surname), but that he was stationed in Italy in his youth and learned the language then. Have not been able to find a younger photo of him.
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May 30th, 2018, 6:13 pm #6

I was thinking about this person possibly being Z and MDF. Chances are he's neither, since confessions are almost always bogus. But it made me think.

We now know that Joseph DeAngelo turned out to be the Visalia Ransacker, the East Area Rapist, and the Original Night Stalker. Some of the detectives working those cases thought those were different unsubs until DeAngelo got nabbed.

Ted Kaczynski was convicted for his crimes as the Unabomber. Many people suspect him of being the Tylenol killer before that and the Zodiac before that. 

My guess is as good as anyone's if Joseph Bevilacqua is Z., but I'm very open to the possibility that the person behind the name Zodiac is responsible for other series of crimes. Not just Domingos, Edwards, Bates, or Lass, but crimes committed under a different persona in a different era.
Zodiac was a liar. There's no reason to assume anything he said was true.
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May 30th, 2018, 6:21 pm #7

Thats what I'm thinking. There has been a lot of fake confessions and its bound to happen again sometime. But this guy seems interesting and apparantly he tries to provide solutions to the ciphers and stuff to prove it's him. Those may also be fake of course, but it will be interesting to see if anything comes out of it, even though it's probably nothing exciting. He is worth looking into
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May 31st, 2018, 3:34 am #8

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May 31st, 2018, 11:03 am #9

Can someone post a picture of MDF?

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May 31st, 2018, 11:05 am #10

TomVoigt wrote:italian_zodiac.wav
Is there an English translation of this? To me it sounded like someone was saying, "He likes eating pizzas."

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