My entire post had to do with the hypocrisy of Morf blocking my IP address; at no time in his reply does he ever come even close to addressing that topic.
Hey Ray, glad to see you are back from hiatus, how was your "retirement"?
I don't recall telling anyone I'd retired. I took my websites down at the end of the year for various reasons, most of which I explained in my final blog entry on ZodiacKillerConfidential.com, "In Closing". The entire article had to do with my reasons for shutting my websites down. If you want, I'll put the whole thing back up on the message board here so you can see for yourself. I didn't say I was walking away from the case, necessarily.
I will only reply this one single time to your rant, and will not respond again.
Why do you keep saying that? You keep saying it, and then you just file another post. Why not just stop saying it?
Here's what you said last time:
As a matter of fact, this will be my last post ever debating you, because, I simply can’t debate somebody so ‘out there’.
Morf, you're afraid of debating me because you're going to lose. But you have to understand something. You're not losing because you're a lousy debater. You're arguing something that's just not true, and you're not willing to admit it.
Other than myself, I think Mike Rodelli may be the best pure investigator in the Zodiac online community. His research is meticulous and his arguments are compelling. He's made many insights into the case that I agree with wholeheartedly, including that the SFPD DNA is absolutely worthless. DNA is left by several bodily fluids, including blood, semen, saliva, and sweat. The problem is, those letters and envelopes were handled by every administrator and his drinking buddies for more than three decades before they were submitted for profiling. Some of the artifacts were actually kept at people's homes, and had to be hunted down and retrieved for examination. There's no telling where they've been, which means they've been compromised as evidence. No wonder SFPD isn't enthusiastic about the DNA testing; some political crony of the police department may end up getting fingered as the city's most notorious serial killer.
Rodelli, unfortunately, decided that Kjell Qvale was the Zodiac Killer. He wasn't. The Zodiac Killer was multiple people: at least three in Riverside, and at least three on Lake Herman Road. That's what the physical and circumstantial evidence tells us.
You don't LIKE that conclusion. I get that. But it doesn't change anything.
I feel flattered that you are stalking me, entering my user name in google and seeing what comes up.
Don't feel flattered. I'm not stalking you, Morf. And I never entered your user name in Google. I was putzing around on my laptop, on Monday evening, and I was curious to see if the old private ZKS board was still up. It was a stroll down memory lane, a break while I was typing something else. The last time I went on that board, I had no trouble accessing it despite the IP address ban.
You may remember the Gareth Penn thread, which began with a post by Bentley/Wrench, where I am named in the very first sentence of the thread (which went on for 20-odd pages or so). Here's the first paragraph:
Mon Mar 08, 2010 8:19 pm
Just to let everyone know, I sent those 3 "Raymond Grant" Zodiac books I got with the Napa Sentinel stuff to Mike Martin, the guy with that Weeklyscientist.com site who wrote the extensive piece on Penn. Mike is certain that Penn is "Raymond Grant", which adds some mystery to the plot since "Grant" accuses Penn, in great length, and O'Hare of plotting the Z murders together. Weird huh? Also apparently "Grant" tosses a couple more murders Penn's way (I never read the dang books, too Mensa for me). Anyway it makes sense, Penn was pounding the Napa Sentinel with letters, he must have also sent the books.
What makes this post so extraordinary is that I wasn't even a member on ZKS until more than three months later. Here's the email Morf sent me at the time:
Jun 12, 2010
In regards to your message-
I registered on your site a week ago and have yet to be activated. When I Google "Ray Grant Zodiac", I always get your site (among others), and the link abstract includes discussion of "The Raymond Grant books". Several of the other Zodiac sites have discussed me openly, so I'm not sure what the hesitation is. Mike Rodelli emailed me to the effect that I was being discussed on your site as part of a Q&A, which is now available second-hand elsewhere (though I'd be interested in seeing the original source for the material). Again, if you have any uncertainty about activating me, I'll do my best to clear it up. I was a regular on the JFK assassination sites a couple years ago, and they're a lot more cut-throat than the Zodiac sites (trust me). My strategy on message boards is to bend over backward to avoid offending anyone (or taking sides, for that matter). In any case, if you don't want to activate me I'd appreciate knowing why.
I apologize for not activating you sooner. Our forum is by invite-only, and not generally open to the public. When someone signs up, I dont activate them, unless they are referred here by someone.
We do discuss Penn, and a great deal of other suspects, and Zodiac case in general. My understanding is that you and Penn knew each other in some capacity. He has denied this fact on our forum. I would certainly be interested in what you have to say regarding Penn, and how he relates to you, the Zodiac case, etc. ( Although, I dont think personally that Penn or Ohare were involved in the Zodiac case)
You are now active. Please post a little about yourself in the "introduce yourself" thread, which is 3rd from the top on the forum.
Welcome, and I look forward to hearing from you.
Mike, AKA, "Morf13"
By the way, I stopped bending over backward to avoid offending people some time ago. I think it was my experience on that Gareth Penn thread that ruined me for life.
In any case, long story short, I first Googled ZODIACKILLERSITE and just got the current board. It used to be that if you Googled ZODIACKILLERSITE, you also got the original private-but-now-defunct board. But, no luck this time. So I Googled ZODIACKILLERSITE PHPBB, and the link to that forum question about banning people was the second on the first page. Try it yourself.
Suffice it to say, I never Googled your username. Wouldn't it be kind of stupid and counterproductive to Google your username, when you're posting all over the damn place?
I almost feel like one of the unsuspecting young ladies who you mentioned in your diary as you 'observed' them. Remember that? I do, awfully creepy by the way.
Morf, you've already accused an innocent man, James Owen, of being the Zodiac Killer, and did that despite his being completely forthcoming and cooperative with you, as he was with the police. And, like the coward that you are, you waited until he was deceased to hurl your idiotic accusation at him.
Now it sounds like you're trying to accuse me of some sort of wrongdoing, the exact nature of which I haven't quite figured out yet. Would you care to be more specific?
Remember what Patrick Henry said about King George the Third? You should look at what happened to Mike Butterfield when he started allowing defamatory posts about me to appear on his board, and profit by his example. Butterfield's board barely exists these days. Here's a recent post:
by diablo » Fri May 23, 2014 8:24 pm
Where is everyone?
I had to laugh at that one! I take it Diablo's been away for a while.
Writing majors in college are encouraged to keep journals. It's one of the ways you practice techniques like description, and it also provides material from your own life to convert into other forms. A friend of mine from Carnegie-Mellon University went to work at Facebook seven or eight years ago, and he talked me into signing up for it back when it was mostly just people on college campuses. Anyway, I started posting my journal on my Facebook page as an incentive to do it every day, and it made my page more interesting than just the ones with the occasional note kept haphazardly.
There's really no point in keeping a journal unless you're willing to be completely honest, and that sometimes means revealing aspects of yourself that aren't politically correct. I've read edited diaries by writers like Anais Nin and Ned Rorem, and find them uninteresting, because they present day-to-day life as if it were a philosophical exercise. No one lives his life that way. The best journals are straightforward, by people like Samuel Pepys, who was willing to talk about his flirtations with women in church, or James Boswell, whose London Journal is one long exercise in debauchery.
There's a recently-discovered mental syndrome called hyperthymesia, of people who remember each day of their lives as if it happened yesterday. I believe that would be a very useful resource if it weren't automatic. My journal entries tend to be extremely detailed, and include things other people might leave out, like what I ate, what I bought, defecations, and even embarrassing incidents. The husband of one of my female friends once told me he was an avid reader of my Facebook journal, because I wrote about everything.
If I go out to the supermarket and see an attractive woman there, I mention in my journal what specifically attracted me, at least partly so that, if I read the entry a year later, I'll remember the details. I don't get what's creepy about that. There's a blog called postmasculine.com, which is a fairly enlightened PUA forum, where the expert says if you're going to worry about possibly being thought of as creepy in social situations, you'll never approach a woman in the first place. I'm single and unattached. When I was in high school, every girl I was interested in was also interested in me. It didn't always turn into a relationship, but I never had any trouble getting my foot in the door. I'm 63 now, and the older I get, the friendlier women get. I think part of that may be that they consider me harmless now.
Go look at my Facebook page. Notice I don't have to wear a hoodie to cover my face, or put up an out-of-focus profile picture. I took down the journal entries when I realized that people like Butterfield were going to my Facebook page and copying pictures off it while I was posting on the supposedly private ZKS. Again, I assume Ed Neil gave Butterfield his log-in code, and Butterfield then put an unflattering picture of me from 2008 atop The Crackpot Files.
But, as I said before, Morf, nothing I put in my journal could possibly be any creepier than a grown man with a family going to my Facebook page and reading my journal, and doing it surreptitiously. People reading this might get the impression we were Facebook friends at one point; we weren't. You did that on your own, and you were doing it for a while, since I took the journal entries down more than a year ago.
As far as my post about search engines and results, I am always concerned since I probably have the second biggest and most active zodiac message board on the net, and it's always loaded and updated with fresh materials, yet the search engines are not finding it. I have some tech issues I am in the process of correcting,but as you can see, I have nothing to hide, I was even a big boy and used the same user name I always use at every forum. It's not free, as Tom will tell you, to run a web site, so you want to see results from your $$
Once again, you completely missed the point. You want all the benefits of a public forum with all the control of a private board. You worry about your SEO while blocking IP addresses. The type of message board you run is the cheapest way to do it. It's like Butterfield complaining on ZKF that he'd had to spend $600 in four years. Sheesh. I can't speak for everyone, but to Tom and myself, that's chump change. I sent 96 copies of my first book to the JFK School at Harvard in November 1990, at $35 a pop, and that was just the printing costs. And that was a quarter century ago.
I DO appreciate you checking up on me.
As I said before, I wasn't checking up on you. Your forum decided to mention me around the same time Butterfield's did, and I responded. And, like Butterfield, you're always willing to sink a little lower than the competition.
I suspect the two of you will wind up in the same place.