nordwind
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7:09 PM - Feb 09, 2018 #161

From what I remember regarding this incident ,it's suspected Allen thought the police already knew about the bloody knives before they questioned him & was doing "damage control" to explain them away....to nip it in the bud as it were....
Once you've heard the truth everything else is just cheap whiskey.....R Lee Ermey
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Druzer
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7:24 PM - Feb 09, 2018 #162

That sounds like a reasonable explanation to me Nordwind. So, if we forget about the 90s test because it was based on the 78 letter which we believe to be a hoax, discredit the palm print because a LE source implies Exorcist letter they obtained it from is a hoax, and the Holt over the stamp sample is equally dubious... is it essentially only ALA's fingerprint, size, baldness, handwriting, sexual proclivities, and the unreliability of the witness testimonies against him that eliminates him as a compelling Zodiac suspect? I think I have all the bases covered but I'm just trying to determine the current assessment of the experts here.
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nordwind
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7:50 PM - Feb 09, 2018 #163

Everything you said is reasonable in my opinion....there's still a ton of circumstantial evidence that points to Allen....more than any other single suspect that I'm aware of....
Once you've heard the truth everything else is just cheap whiskey.....R Lee Ermey
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1:43 PM - Feb 10, 2018 #164

I agree with you, nordwind. I'm not sure if a jury would have enough to evidence to convict ALA of murder (if he were alive), but i think there was enough to take him to court. I think they could sweated things out of him that maybe could have helped crack the case. His remarks and cocky behavior warranted putting him up in the witness stand. If the zodiac is never unmasked, ALA will still reign as the leading suspect. Just about every  known suspect mentioned on their board has interesting things that may point to them as the Zodiac. On the hand, they all have issues that point away from them as the Zodiac. So the answer must be 1) Le really dropped the ball in this case, 2) the Zodiac was a  criminal mastermind who was just too smart for LE, or 3) there were two or more people committing the murders, writing the letter and leaving the evidence. I tend to lean towards 3 but 1 and 2 are good options as well.
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5:45 PM - Feb 10, 2018 #165

Quote from doc in Fincher's Zodiac by Det. George Bawart ;

Detective George Bawart would later say "The only reason I look in that direction and I am 95 percent sure it was him, is because so many coincidences point in his direction. What really bothers me about this case is that we were ready to charge Arthur Leigh Allen, with the idea in mind that it would be taken to trial so that 12 jurors could make that determination. But he died before we could do that."
Once you've heard the truth everything else is just cheap whiskey.....R Lee Ermey
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2:32 PM - Feb 13, 2018 #166

The back of the card contains some interesting clues. The backwards "N" for example. Also the misspelling of the word "paradice" and the insinuation that it is supposed to be one word. If you read carefully and correctly it's really "par" and "slaves" and "dice". Doesn't a golf course and a casino figure heavily in this narrative? The 340 cipher contains backwards "N's" in a number of places. The crossword puzzle layout of the back of the card is also interesting. This card is definitely a key loaded with clues that may help solve the "340"
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9:42 PM - Apr 28, 2018 #167

I wonder if the woman that was renting upstairs space from ALA was ever interviewed. 
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