What percentage of the population had jobs working for someone eles

What percentage of the population had jobs working for someone eles

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May 17th, 2012, 3:08 pm #1

before the Industrial revolution? I think the past 100 years of job creation, has set up society with the false belief that working for someone else would be the standered, but was only a flash in the pan?
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May 17th, 2012, 3:35 pm #2

<p>notion or ability to pursue their own endeavors...goes way back before the industrial revolution as there was the serf systems in many populous countries.....and that is all over the world and back in the days of the ancient Egyptians and Romans....armies and land slaves worked for their masters,nothing new,no flash in the pan....</p><p>     Currencies changed some of the ways people did things,money was a great token to be used to purchase goods,then people could also be taxed on top of also supplying labor and goods,this set up a system of graft and deceit were the rich got richer on the backs of the workers..alas be Thankful for what we have...taxes with little representation,but we have big screen TVs to enjoy and peace and freedom....to pursue private business and strive to be successful in some way....and we remain a nation of people working for others,that is what drives capitalism..hire workers to work for you so you can make money and become rich and they can make money to try and have a "good life"and have enough left over to pay taxes and buy other things from other capitalistic business whether they are here,Japan or China....</p><p> </p>
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May 17th, 2012, 4:03 pm #3

Real estate was the original form of capital and basis of production-controlling wealth.

Still is, really.

Steve
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May 17th, 2012, 4:46 pm #4

before the Industrial revolution? I think the past 100 years of job creation, has set up society with the false belief that working for someone else would be the standered, but was only a flash in the pan?
OF PEOPLE! Due to wars, plagues, etc. that passed through Europe in Waves.

"Landed" was all but impossible unless born into.

I'm not sure how the Far East and Asia moved along. pre-colonialism. History is a bit myopic.
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May 17th, 2012, 5:34 pm #5

before the Industrial revolution? I think the past 100 years of job creation, has set up society with the false belief that working for someone else would be the standered, but was only a flash in the pan?
expect to find a job working for someone else, but industry has been contracting for at least 30 years and we have more people with expectations of landing a job. Shouldn't we be encouraging and teaching children that they may have to start their own business?
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May 17th, 2012, 8:05 pm #6

<p>notion or ability to pursue their own endeavors...goes way back before the industrial revolution as there was the serf systems in many populous countries.....and that is all over the world and back in the days of the ancient Egyptians and Romans....armies and land slaves worked for their masters,nothing new,no flash in the pan....</p><p>     Currencies changed some of the ways people did things,money was a great token to be used to purchase goods,then people could also be taxed on top of also supplying labor and goods,this set up a system of graft and deceit were the rich got richer on the backs of the workers..alas be Thankful for what we have...taxes with little representation,but we have big screen TVs to enjoy and peace and freedom....to pursue private business and strive to be successful in some way....and we remain a nation of people working for others,that is what drives capitalism..hire workers to work for you so you can make money and become rich and they can make money to try and have a "good life"and have enough left over to pay taxes and buy other things from other capitalistic business whether they are here,Japan or China....</p><p> </p>
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May 17th, 2012, 9:13 pm #7

expect to find a job working for someone else, but industry has been contracting for at least 30 years and we have more people with expectations of landing a job. Shouldn't we be encouraging and teaching children that they may have to start their own business?
<p>some become successful at it,but many business fail.</p><p>    The economy would have to be perfect for a lot more business to take hold...</p><p>   People need money,and to start a business not only takes knowledge ,but also a lot of capitol.</p><p>   I think what will happen is people will go back and  trade articles and services in order to survive.</p><p>   People will have to become more versatile in the way they live,I also think we have hit our zenith as far as riches for the masses in this country,like be happy with all the electronic do dads and entertainment.</p><p>  Also we will be spending more time in our own neighborhoods and this will lead to neighborhood trading centers...</p><p> I think over spending and buying the next best thing as lead us down a road of self destruction,what I mean is this,yes we got "spoiled" and yes we expected to be able to keep up our lifestyles for as long as we lived and many of you can...but that is coming to and end.</p><p>  the Chinese industry with the help of American over spending has been able to keep the masses from the truth,and you may ask what is the truth,be happy with what you have and try to help your fellow neighbors as much as you can,we can only control us.,but a smart entrepreneur will still be able to make money...I am talking about the future,I am not sure how far away this may happen,I know some of it is happening now.</p>
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May 17th, 2012, 11:21 pm #8

before the Industrial revolution? I think the past 100 years of job creation, has set up society with the false belief that working for someone else would be the standered, but was only a flash in the pan?
Even among hunter-gatherers, there were always specialists. The hunters "made meat" for the group while the gatherers found edibles, raised the children and worked in the camp. Take a flint-knapper, for instance. If they were good, they probably spent much of their time making articles for everyone else. Comes with living as a community.
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May 18th, 2012, 12:51 am #9

<p>some become successful at it,but many business fail.</p><p>    The economy would have to be perfect for a lot more business to take hold...</p><p>   People need money,and to start a business not only takes knowledge ,but also a lot of capitol.</p><p>   I think what will happen is people will go back and  trade articles and services in order to survive.</p><p>   People will have to become more versatile in the way they live,I also think we have hit our zenith as far as riches for the masses in this country,like be happy with all the electronic do dads and entertainment.</p><p>  Also we will be spending more time in our own neighborhoods and this will lead to neighborhood trading centers...</p><p> I think over spending and buying the next best thing as lead us down a road of self destruction,what I mean is this,yes we got "spoiled" and yes we expected to be able to keep up our lifestyles for as long as we lived and many of you can...but that is coming to and end.</p><p>  the Chinese industry with the help of American over spending has been able to keep the masses from the truth,and you may ask what is the truth,be happy with what you have and try to help your fellow neighbors as much as you can,we can only control us.,but a smart entrepreneur will still be able to make money...I am talking about the future,I am not sure how far away this may happen,I know some of it is happening now.</p>
Never quit your day Job for obvious reasons, Especially if you have one that allows you and your family to live comfortably. That was true for me but, I wanted more. So I started buying land and contraction out builders for Luxury vacation/year around houses on the Jersey coast. Started when I was 27 and and eventually owned 15 residences. Some I rented, Some I sold outright which were fully furnished and included everything except food.
The New Yorkers and Wanna be Socialites paid out their *** for what was essentially an illusion, Because the value was in the land which was quite small and heavily Taxed being Ocean front.
On one occasion I designed two separate residences on a 40x60 lot, Converted it to a condominium association for $1200.00 and sold the building for a 400K profit in less than 3 years.
Moral, If you want something bad enough, Have a good take on the prospective market and are not afraid to work hard and bet the farm, You will make it.
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May 18th, 2012, 1:41 am #10

<p>some become successful at it,but many business fail.</p><p>    The economy would have to be perfect for a lot more business to take hold...</p><p>   People need money,and to start a business not only takes knowledge ,but also a lot of capitol.</p><p>   I think what will happen is people will go back and  trade articles and services in order to survive.</p><p>   People will have to become more versatile in the way they live,I also think we have hit our zenith as far as riches for the masses in this country,like be happy with all the electronic do dads and entertainment.</p><p>  Also we will be spending more time in our own neighborhoods and this will lead to neighborhood trading centers...</p><p> I think over spending and buying the next best thing as lead us down a road of self destruction,what I mean is this,yes we got "spoiled" and yes we expected to be able to keep up our lifestyles for as long as we lived and many of you can...but that is coming to and end.</p><p>  the Chinese industry with the help of American over spending has been able to keep the masses from the truth,and you may ask what is the truth,be happy with what you have and try to help your fellow neighbors as much as you can,we can only control us.,but a smart entrepreneur will still be able to make money...I am talking about the future,I am not sure how far away this may happen,I know some of it is happening now.</p>
Read this morning that CEO's are concerned that markets are changing too quickly. The rift between the haves and have nots is growing quickly.

The concern is that those on the bottom will soon have little extra income to waste on gadgets and luxury items. So... lots of current business models could fail.
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