MTC Viper Connect

MTC Viper Connect

Joined: May 1st, 2007, 7:41 pm

April 14th, 2017, 10:45 pm #1

Is anyone familiar with the MTC Viper Connect scope? It is a very close eye relief 3-12x32 side focus scope. Wondering how it focuses beyond 40 yards to use for FT Hunter division. Thanks for any info.
Cliff
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Joined: April 4th, 2013, 7:07 pm

April 15th, 2017, 1:11 am #2

Get the biggest you can. For example, in Europe HFT, you cannot adjust your scope to range find. So you just focust it in the middle and adapt. Close ones and far ones are fuzzy. They use small diameter objective lens's because they have the largest depth of field. Conversely , the largest ones have the shallowest depth, that is what you need for range finding so they snap in and out. If you want a front focus scope, then get a 4-16 Weaver V-16 mil dot like Ron Robinson uses. If you want a side focus scope , get an Optisan/MTC Viper 4-16X50 like Bob Dye, Chuck Garvey and lots of other guys use or a Millette 4-16X50 TRS-1 or a Hawke 4-16X50. If you want the lighter one, do not get an illuminated scope. Sightron 5-20 S-TAC does not range well. Too bad you left Florida as I have some extras you could try. Ask Larry Cleveland for his opinion also.
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Joined: December 30th, 2008, 6:16 pm

April 15th, 2017, 2:58 am #3

The larger Objective lenses yield the shallower depth of field needed for range finding... when limited to 12X in Hunter Division.

As a sports reporter decades ago, I regularly used a large telephoto lens (120mm objective) to photograph the pitcher on the mound through the chain link fence behind the catcher at home plate. The depth of field was so narrow on such a lens, that when focused on the pitcher, you could see right through the chain link fence without any distortion. In field target, you can sometimes see this phenomenon looking through leaves and branches that otherwise obscure a KZ (when focused on the KZ). One has to be careful, of course. Because while you don't see the leaves or twigs, you don't want to shoot through them.

I also feel the larger objective lenses (and larger diameter tubes) admit more light, useful in those darker lanes. Some will dispute this, so I guess it depends on the scope. In my experience, a 50mm objective (generally) gathers more light than a 32mm objective.

The new Optisan "EVX" line, 6-24×56mm looks interesting because of its still larger, 56mm Objective. Hopefully it has a 12X marking(?) Too bad they've moved away from the SCB2 "Christmas Tree" reticle, however. The MH10 Reticle does not seem as versatile, IMO. But I have not seen this reticle in person, yet.
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Joined: October 8th, 2004, 4:12 am

April 15th, 2017, 3:45 pm #4

Bob I was recently looking at the EVX and Athlon FFP scopes and from what I can tell neither has a 12 power marking.

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Joined: December 30th, 2008, 6:16 pm

April 15th, 2017, 4:02 pm #5

I do wish Optisan hadn't discontinued the Viper 4-16x 50mm SCB2. I had thought about buying a second one for backup.
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Joined: April 28th, 2012, 10:47 pm

April 15th, 2017, 10:52 pm #6

The larger Objective lenses yield the shallower depth of field needed for range finding... when limited to 12X in Hunter Division.

As a sports reporter decades ago, I regularly used a large telephoto lens (120mm objective) to photograph the pitcher on the mound through the chain link fence behind the catcher at home plate. The depth of field was so narrow on such a lens, that when focused on the pitcher, you could see right through the chain link fence without any distortion. In field target, you can sometimes see this phenomenon looking through leaves and branches that otherwise obscure a KZ (when focused on the KZ). One has to be careful, of course. Because while you don't see the leaves or twigs, you don't want to shoot through them.

I also feel the larger objective lenses (and larger diameter tubes) admit more light, useful in those darker lanes. Some will dispute this, so I guess it depends on the scope. In my experience, a 50mm objective (generally) gathers more light than a 32mm objective.

The new Optisan "EVX" line, 6-24×56mm looks interesting because of its still larger, 56mm Objective. Hopefully it has a 12X marking(?) Too bad they've moved away from the SCB2 "Christmas Tree" reticle, however. The MH10 Reticle does not seem as versatile, IMO. But I have not seen this reticle in person, yet.
NEITHER has 12x marking
Both are Mil-Rad 10X calibrated.

Have both the 4-16x44F-1 FFP & 4-16x44i SFP versions.

Killer clear class and they range super well too !!
Sadly in AAFTA uses there 10x required due to no 12x markings.
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Joined: May 1st, 2007, 7:41 pm

April 16th, 2017, 5:27 pm #7

Is anyone familiar with the MTC Viper Connect scope? It is a very close eye relief 3-12x32 side focus scope. Wondering how it focuses beyond 40 yards to use for FT Hunter division. Thanks for any info.
Cliff
Thanks for all the advice and information. Hunter division may be in my future.
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Joined: June 2nd, 2014, 10:56 pm

April 18th, 2017, 7:55 pm #8

Bob I was recently looking at the EVX and Athlon FFP scopes and from what I can tell neither has a 12 power marking.

According to Jeff at Trenier Outdoors, the manuf is coming out with a new version that WILL contain the 12x setting. Jeff says he will let me know when they arrive.
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