Kill zones and distances.

Kill zones and distances.

Joined: December 17th, 2009, 1:03 am

November 8th, 2011, 1:17 pm #1

As a general rule, if there is one, what are the kill zone sizes at what distances.

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Appel
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Joined: April 12th, 2006, 7:56 am

November 8th, 2011, 1:38 pm #2

For major matches, the rule of thumb is keep it at or near 50 Troyer rating max ie 1/2" @25 yards or 1" @50 yards. 1/2@50 yards has been done before for shootoffs. There are general guidelines on the AAFTA site but no set maximimums. 3/8" @ 50 yards? Only if you're crazy.
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Joined: March 8th, 2009, 4:24 pm

November 8th, 2011, 2:48 pm #3

my philosphy is to have mostly fairly easy close targets. for long targets i will use 1.75 at 55 yards and 50 yards. 1.5" at 50 and 45. Now these seem easy if you calculate Troyer factor but we have a prevailing cross wind of 3-10 mph and that makes it more of a challenge than it looks if you only use troyer factors. Wind and distance beyond 45 yards adds significantly to the challenge. I also set lanes that are perpedicular to wind direction and some that are parallel to wind direction or quartering. So far no one has cleaned the courses I have set because there is always an expert class target or two and you add wind and it is very challenging. I have had a national champ shoot a 26/44 so it is no piece of cake. On the other hand i can move the line closer and ease off.

Of course Riz Marquez has not shot our course yet. that may send me back to the drawing board. Doug Miller has not made it out yet either. I would like to see how those guys do on a breezy day. I am sure they would do well.
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Joined: September 28th, 2000, 12:50 am

November 8th, 2011, 4:35 pm #4

As a general rule, if there is one, what are the kill zone sizes at what distances.

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Appel
the one I used was:

½" from 10 to 25 (yards)
3/4" from 20 to 35 (yards)
1" from 30 to 45 (yards)
1½" from 40 to 55 (yards)

There is a LOT more to difficulty than distance. Wind has been mentioned, but positional shots have not. So shooting a 1/2" at 20 yards offhand is a pretty tough target.
And even if the position is a free position, shooting down a 1½" kz at 45 yards is no piece of cake if it is located at 45° of upward slope.

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Joined: November 4th, 2004, 2:28 am

November 8th, 2011, 5:46 pm #5

As a general rule, if there is one, what are the kill zone sizes at what distances.

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Appel
when i set a course i try and make sure its balanced for the group of shooters. So if its a beginner group i'll drop a lot of 1"-1.5" at 20-40yrds and then only throw in a few separator targets. If its a mixed skill group then its a mix of easy targets and +40T targets.

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Joined: October 27th, 2003, 11:32 pm

November 8th, 2011, 5:52 pm #6

As a general rule, if there is one, what are the kill zone sizes at what distances.

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Appel
or are you talking major regional/national type settings?

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Tony
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Joined: March 8th, 2009, 4:24 pm

November 8th, 2011, 7:06 pm #7

As a general rule, if there is one, what are the kill zone sizes at what distances.

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Appel
is how to set your practice distances and KZ sizes. What i would suggest is you use a ratio based on T30. that is 1" at 30 yards. When you are putting 90% of pellets in a 1" at 30 yards, or 1/2" at 15 yards then you will want to throw in more challenging target size distance ratios. This is on windless days. if wind is involved you might want to reduce distance somewhat.

somewhere i have a chart that grades the Troyer factors by difficulty. when i get a minute i will look it up and try to get it to you. Send me your email address.
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Joined: July 6th, 2002, 8:59 pm

November 8th, 2011, 9:10 pm #8

As a general rule, if there is one, what are the kill zone sizes at what distances.

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Appel
Download (.PDF):
http://sites.google.com/site/centraltex ... Troyer.pdf




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Joined: October 19th, 2005, 12:48 am

November 8th, 2011, 9:53 pm #9

was the the mastermind of this scale.
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Joined: July 6th, 2002, 8:59 pm

November 8th, 2011, 10:23 pm #10

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