How about: Are Piston shooters a dying breed?

How about: Are Piston shooters a dying breed?

Joined: July 6th, 2002, 8:59 pm

August 3rd, 2012, 8:53 pm #1

Well, it certainly looks like the migration to PCP is increasing day by day.

Open: Although the number of Piston shooters have not necessarily declined overall, the Open class has been a victim of attrition to other Piston classes that are now available.

Hunter: I certainly would not shoot Hunter-Piston (my hat's off to those that do)... IMO, the range-finding handicap of a 12x scope almost forces the issue of shooting at full power; which translates to using a PCP.

WFTF: I've been trying WFTF-Piston since late '09, but that class has not grown much at all; whereas WFTF-PCP has grown at a pretty decent clip (and with very good shooters too).

Anyways, perhaps I'm just trying to rationalize a move to the dark-side... Yes, I've got a 12fpe TM1000 on order (and will start shooting it after Nats this year).

And no, I'm not giving up on my springers; I'll just shoot both (but most likely WFTF-PCP at major matches).

After 10 years of shooting solely Piston, please don't call me 'sell out' (LOL).
HookEm
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Joined: October 19th, 2005, 12:48 am

August 3rd, 2012, 9:19 pm #2

I've have a sweet shooting HW97 that I tuned myself with a JM kit. Had Paul bishop put his custom stock on it and at some point I wanted to try the Hunter Springer game. Now I've decided it won't happen to after I win a few big shoots again. Been pretty dry the last couple years so I may never get the chance to play a different game.
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Joined: December 25th, 2009, 8:47 pm

August 4th, 2012, 2:54 am #3

Well, it certainly looks like the migration to PCP is increasing day by day.

Open: Although the number of Piston shooters have not necessarily declined overall, the Open class has been a victim of attrition to other Piston classes that are now available.

Hunter: I certainly would not shoot Hunter-Piston (my hat's off to those that do)... IMO, the range-finding handicap of a 12x scope almost forces the issue of shooting at full power; which translates to using a PCP.

WFTF: I've been trying WFTF-Piston since late '09, but that class has not grown much at all; whereas WFTF-PCP has grown at a pretty decent clip (and with very good shooters too).

Anyways, perhaps I'm just trying to rationalize a move to the dark-side... Yes, I've got a 12fpe TM1000 on order (and will start shooting it after Nats this year).

And no, I'm not giving up on my springers; I'll just shoot both (but most likely WFTF-PCP at major matches).

After 10 years of shooting solely Piston, please don't call me 'sell out' (LOL).
HookEm
I might like to try my hand at piston. Was thinking an HW97 would fit the bill.




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Joined: October 14th, 2006, 12:30 am

August 4th, 2012, 4:14 am #4

Well, it certainly looks like the migration to PCP is increasing day by day.

Open: Although the number of Piston shooters have not necessarily declined overall, the Open class has been a victim of attrition to other Piston classes that are now available.

Hunter: I certainly would not shoot Hunter-Piston (my hat's off to those that do)... IMO, the range-finding handicap of a 12x scope almost forces the issue of shooting at full power; which translates to using a PCP.

WFTF: I've been trying WFTF-Piston since late '09, but that class has not grown much at all; whereas WFTF-PCP has grown at a pretty decent clip (and with very good shooters too).

Anyways, perhaps I'm just trying to rationalize a move to the dark-side... Yes, I've got a 12fpe TM1000 on order (and will start shooting it after Nats this year).

And no, I'm not giving up on my springers; I'll just shoot both (but most likely WFTF-PCP at major matches).

After 10 years of shooting solely Piston, please don't call me 'sell out' (LOL).
HookEm
the game is so relatively young that it's still evolving. We all overthink it a bit too. I shoot FT for enjoyment, it's (WFTF Piston) not a political party, so we all have the luxury of changing our mind as well as our division. I say do whatever tickles your fancy and keeps the game fresh & exiting for you. Life is way too short, and when I can make it I hope to keep seeing you at future matches Leo, whatever you decide to shoot!





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Joined: February 16th, 2004, 3:40 am

August 4th, 2012, 11:44 am #5

WFTF PCP and Open Class PCP.....over the past three weeks I have been practicing with A HW97K that is shooting at just over 13fpe. It has re-energized me for the game. I have challenged myself to master the spring gun. Will I? I don't know but I am having a great time finding out.

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Joined: September 21st, 2008, 6:12 pm

August 6th, 2012, 7:17 pm #6

Well, it certainly looks like the migration to PCP is increasing day by day.

Open: Although the number of Piston shooters have not necessarily declined overall, the Open class has been a victim of attrition to other Piston classes that are now available.

Hunter: I certainly would not shoot Hunter-Piston (my hat's off to those that do)... IMO, the range-finding handicap of a 12x scope almost forces the issue of shooting at full power; which translates to using a PCP.

WFTF: I've been trying WFTF-Piston since late '09, but that class has not grown much at all; whereas WFTF-PCP has grown at a pretty decent clip (and with very good shooters too).

Anyways, perhaps I'm just trying to rationalize a move to the dark-side... Yes, I've got a 12fpe TM1000 on order (and will start shooting it after Nats this year).

And no, I'm not giving up on my springers; I'll just shoot both (but most likely WFTF-PCP at major matches).

After 10 years of shooting solely Piston, please don't call me 'sell out' (LOL).
HookEm
<p>Kevin Yee outshot the open class PCP top score with a piston gun. And he was the only guy to shoot the same score (50) both days.</p><p>Kevin demonstrates that it can be done, and done well.</p>

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Joined: July 6th, 2002, 8:59 pm

August 6th, 2012, 8:04 pm #7

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Joined: March 8th, 2009, 4:24 pm

August 6th, 2012, 9:53 pm #8

we have tried at HR. I added piston/hunter knowing it would dilute piston class but hoping to grow the piston participation overall. It has been static throughout spring and summer though.

I am somewhat dismayed that after four years of training to shoot springer that we are having such a poor reception at nationals and may not have an open springer class. I don't want to learn a whole new discipline in such a short time. I guess if i go i will shoot open pcp with my springer just cause its unlikely i will ever attend another nationals.

When i started there were more springer guys but the availability of so many great pcp guns has pulled that base away. Eventually wins shooting springer will be meaningless since there will be no one to compete with. I will buy a pcp then.
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Joined: January 31st, 2010, 8:47 am

August 7th, 2012, 6:26 am #9

Well, it certainly looks like the migration to PCP is increasing day by day.

Open: Although the number of Piston shooters have not necessarily declined overall, the Open class has been a victim of attrition to other Piston classes that are now available.

Hunter: I certainly would not shoot Hunter-Piston (my hat's off to those that do)... IMO, the range-finding handicap of a 12x scope almost forces the issue of shooting at full power; which translates to using a PCP.

WFTF: I've been trying WFTF-Piston since late '09, but that class has not grown much at all; whereas WFTF-PCP has grown at a pretty decent clip (and with very good shooters too).

Anyways, perhaps I'm just trying to rationalize a move to the dark-side... Yes, I've got a 12fpe TM1000 on order (and will start shooting it after Nats this year).

And no, I'm not giving up on my springers; I'll just shoot both (but most likely WFTF-PCP at major matches).

After 10 years of shooting solely Piston, please don't call me 'sell out' (LOL).
HookEm
Want more piston participation... don't put them in the same classes with PCP shooters.

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Joined: July 24th, 2010, 1:44 am

August 7th, 2012, 11:49 am #10

When I competed in the 2010 Nationals in Maryland I was shooting hunter class that was combined piston/PCP and out of 17 shooters in the class, only 5 were piston shooters. The following year the Nationals was held close enough to my NC home that I considered taking the wife and making it a sort of vacation trip (wife wanted to visit DollyWorld LOL). Well......after perusing the entries I noticed that NONE were piston shooters in a combined class so I thought "what's the point"!

Since the piston/PCP class split, at DIFTA the hunter class has grown to the point that there usually have been enough shooters to actually give separate awards. Quite a change IMHO from when I would get a 3rd place certificate for a field of three hft shooters!
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