Athlon Optics 6-24x50 Argos BTR on a 12 ftlb springer?

Joined: January 10th, 2016, 3:09 pm

June 1st, 2017, 3:14 am #1

Please let me know if an Athlon Optics 6-24x50 Argos BTR would survive a 12 ftlb springer (in this case a FWB 124 with Pro-Mac tune kit). I've read conflicting reports online on whether this scope is springer-rated (or perhaps magnum springer-rated?). Unfortunately, I'm limited to scopes ~<15" long on this airgun due to the barrel-break design. I hope to use this combo for WFTF matches. I realize that the FWB 124 isn't ideal, but it shoots better than I can hold. I'd like to get even higher magnification for better range finding, but those scopes tend to be too long.

Thanks,
John
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June 1st, 2017, 3:27 am #2

I ordered this scope from Optics Planet and tried it on my Hunter class gun (pcp) and really liked most everything about it except for one fatal flaw to me. It would not focus closer than 13 yards. A call to Athlon proved fruitless so I returned it.
If you can live with the focus limitations I would think it will hold up to a mild springer as well as a Hawke or Optisan.
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June 1st, 2017, 3:43 am #3

Thanks for the helpful info and excellent point about focusing! I've read that other folks had similar problems focusing close at the highest magnification with this scope, but were able to focus closer at 6x. Was this the case with your scope? I'm pretty new to FT, so please let me know if using lower mag at closer ranges is a reasonable workaround. Hopefully, POI doesn't change much with changing magnification.

Please let me know if 12 ftlbs is considered mild for a springer; back when I bought my 124, 12 ftlbs was considered to be pretty powerful!

Thanks,
John
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June 1st, 2017, 4:52 am #4

If it is out of focus at max power then it is also out of focus at minimum power, it just doesn't look so. But the parallax is still there and if you can't focus range the close targets accurately you are going to miss a lot of small kill zones. To me the inability to focus at 10 yds. (as claimed by the manufacturer) makes this scope unsuitable for FT.
If your 124 is tuned properly at 12# I would consider it mild. If it is not tuned well and the piston is slamming into the front of the compression tube it can damage a scope even at 12#. But Athalon claims a lifetime warranty and I didn't see any disclaimers on air guns.
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June 1st, 2017, 4:56 am #5

Please let me know if an Athlon Optics 6-24x50 Argos BTR would survive a 12 ftlb springer (in this case a FWB 124 with Pro-Mac tune kit). I've read conflicting reports online on whether this scope is springer-rated (or perhaps magnum springer-rated?). Unfortunately, I'm limited to scopes ~<15" long on this airgun due to the barrel-break design. I hope to use this combo for WFTF matches. I realize that the FWB 124 isn't ideal, but it shoots better than I can hold. I'd like to get even higher magnification for better range finding, but those scopes tend to be too long.

Thanks,
John
If a scope manufacturer doesn't specify springer rated IN WRITING, "You pays yo' money, and you takes yo' chances."
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June 1st, 2017, 5:08 am #6

if I send in a broken scope I don't volunteer any details. Plus, if the maker doesn't exclude springers I assume the warranty covers it.
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June 1st, 2017, 9:00 am #7

Please let me know if an Athlon Optics 6-24x50 Argos BTR would survive a 12 ftlb springer (in this case a FWB 124 with Pro-Mac tune kit). I've read conflicting reports online on whether this scope is springer-rated (or perhaps magnum springer-rated?). Unfortunately, I'm limited to scopes ~<15" long on this airgun due to the barrel-break design. I hope to use this combo for WFTF matches. I realize that the FWB 124 isn't ideal, but it shoots better than I can hold. I'd like to get even higher magnification for better range finding, but those scopes tend to be too long.

Thanks,
John
because you can mount the scope high enough if you want, to have clearance for cocking the gun. It actually helps you shooting at the 12 ft/lb level as a higher scope moves the peak of the trajectory out further and makes range finding errors at distance less critical. Usually high mounts on a droop compensated riser will be enough like seen here in the picture of my last FT break barrel with the Sightron 10-50 on it.

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June 1st, 2017, 4:18 pm #8

if I send in a broken scope I don't volunteer any details. Plus, if the maker doesn't exclude springers I assume the warranty covers it.
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Joined: January 10th, 2016, 3:09 pm

June 1st, 2017, 4:22 pm #9

Please let me know if an Athlon Optics 6-24x50 Argos BTR would survive a 12 ftlb springer (in this case a FWB 124 with Pro-Mac tune kit). I've read conflicting reports online on whether this scope is springer-rated (or perhaps magnum springer-rated?). Unfortunately, I'm limited to scopes ~<15" long on this airgun due to the barrel-break design. I hope to use this combo for WFTF matches. I realize that the FWB 124 isn't ideal, but it shoots better than I can hold. I'd like to get even higher magnification for better range finding, but those scopes tend to be too long.

Thanks,
John
Has anyone tried the 8-32x 50mm Varmint Seeker from Sun Optics, or any other Sun Optics scope?

http://sunopticsusa.com/varmint-seeker- ... s-ap83250/

Except for the reticle (I'd prefer etched glass, multiple mil-dot), it looks pretty good. It's supposed to focus down to 10 yards and their costumer service people told me it is spring piston airgun-rated.


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John
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June 1st, 2017, 7:08 pm #10

If it is out of focus at max power then it is also out of focus at minimum power, it just doesn't look so. But the parallax is still there and if you can't focus range the close targets accurately you are going to miss a lot of small kill zones. To me the inability to focus at 10 yds. (as claimed by the manufacturer) makes this scope unsuitable for FT.
If your 124 is tuned properly at 12# I would consider it mild. If it is not tuned well and the piston is slamming into the front of the compression tube it can damage a scope even at 12#. But Athalon claims a lifetime warranty and I didn't see any disclaimers on air guns.
I own two of these scopes with the APMR reticle. Love them . I can't speak for springer capability, but as they are glass etched, and for the price, I'd be willing to give it a try.

Neither of mine did 10 yards at max power, but it only takes about 1/2 a turn of the objective ring to correct it, maybe a full turn I don't remember, but very little anyway. Use a thin rubber sheet jar opener if it doesn't loosen with bare fingers. Maybe it's not the ideal situation, but the other features and the price point of this scope make it, for me, not a problem. If it still doesn't loosen I can show you the tool I machined to fit in the notches inside.

Love that FFP! The Athlon 6-24x50 is the right mix of features. Enough power for accurate range finding, the APMR reticle makes it super easy to have a reticle cheat-sheet of aim points (I put mine on the objective's flip up scope cap).and the FFP lets you make power changes with no change in the reticle aim point! Best of all compared to some similarly priced (or slightly less) scopes, the Athlon has no optical distortion all the way to the edge. It's really a great view compared to Leapers 4-16x for example, which I also have. It's a night and day difference in distortion. If all a scope has to be is crosshairs, it doesn't matter, but I often use the scope as a spotting scope, and the Athlon, for it's price point, is a great view.

Even though for HFT you're not making power changes so the FFP feature is not really utilized, a HFT rig might get used on occasion in real small game/pesting use, and then the FFP with power changing is super cool.
Michael McKeown
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