American Airlines & PCP luggage

American Airlines & PCP luggage

Joined: November 14th, 2008, 1:48 pm

January 13th, 2011, 1:51 pm #1

I want to travel from USA to Panama next week & bring my brother a fancy PCP pistol as a gift. I can't seem to get a straight answer from anybody there & they keep transfering me from department to dept! Does anybody know if I can carry it in my luggage? I will declare it....I just don't want to be arrested for something stupid & innocent. Anybody had experience with this? Thanks. Dan
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Joined: December 16th, 2002, 9:38 pm

January 13th, 2011, 2:52 pm #2

I don't know about any laws in Panama on importing a gun. That said, the best way to travel with a gun is to simply say, "I have have a gun I want to check." Do not say it is an airgun -- just "gun." PCP airguns have tanks that may raise issues -- one tank can be attached to the gun (and should be!); the other tank should be sent via UPS or some other method. For pistols, I would have to read the airline and TSA screening rules, I think you can put the pistol in your checked luggage after declaration.

Something as obvious as a pistol should be in a large non-descript bag to discourage theft. The pistol box should be locked as should your luggage. (In both cases, use locks that are compatible with TSA rules!) Do not volunteer extraneous information, just answer questions relating to the gun (is it loaded?, etc.) Oddly, it is easier to travel with a firearm and ammo than with airguns, hence the suggestion of declaring a "gun" (airguns are not firearms by Federal rules).

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Joined: November 14th, 2008, 1:48 pm

January 13th, 2011, 3:22 pm #3

here we go...

http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtravel/ ... items.shtm

basically a PCP has to go as luggage, with the cylinder removed!

Hope this becomes handy for somebody. Dan
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Joined: June 5th, 2009, 4:21 pm

January 13th, 2011, 3:42 pm #4

I don't know about any laws in Panama on importing a gun. That said, the best way to travel with a gun is to simply say, "I have have a gun I want to check." Do not say it is an airgun -- just "gun." PCP airguns have tanks that may raise issues -- one tank can be attached to the gun (and should be!); the other tank should be sent via UPS or some other method. For pistols, I would have to read the airline and TSA screening rules, I think you can put the pistol in your checked luggage after declaration.

Something as obvious as a pistol should be in a large non-descript bag to discourage theft. The pistol box should be locked as should your luggage. (In both cases, use locks that are compatible with TSA rules!) Do not volunteer extraneous information, just answer questions relating to the gun (is it loaded?, etc.) Oddly, it is easier to travel with a firearm and ammo than with airguns, hence the suggestion of declaring a "gun" (airguns are not firearms by Federal rules).

Best,

[url=mailto:joem5636@gmail.com?Yellow/Green%20Forum]Joe in MD[/url]
it's never good to say "I HAVE A GUN"

it alarms people, including law enforcement officers

say, "I have an unloaded firearm" even though we all know it's not a firearm, these are not rocket scientists you're dealing with.

-bp
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Joined: May 14th, 2004, 4:11 pm

January 13th, 2011, 3:51 pm #5

here we go...

http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtravel/ ... items.shtm

basically a PCP has to go as luggage, with the cylinder removed!

Hope this becomes handy for somebody. Dan
Really not practical is it with many PCP's?

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January 13th, 2011, 4:59 pm #6




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January 13th, 2011, 5:13 pm #7

I want to travel from USA to Panama next week & bring my brother a fancy PCP pistol as a gift. I can't seem to get a straight answer from anybody there & they keep transfering me from department to dept! Does anybody know if I can carry it in my luggage? I will declare it....I just don't want to be arrested for something stupid & innocent. Anybody had experience with this? Thanks. Dan
When we travel by air with PCP guns, we show TSA the gauge and that the cylinder is empty. Having a wrench handy is important in case they don't believe you (never has happened w/ us) and you have to remove the foster fitting off the cylinder.

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Joined: February 16th, 2004, 3:40 am

January 13th, 2011, 5:52 pm #8

I want to travel from USA to Panama next week & bring my brother a fancy PCP pistol as a gift. I can't seem to get a straight answer from anybody there & they keep transfering me from department to dept! Does anybody know if I can carry it in my luggage? I will declare it....I just don't want to be arrested for something stupid & innocent. Anybody had experience with this? Thanks. Dan
going to Nationals was as follows:

I asked the ticket counter agent for a firearms declarations form. I got it...filled it out. She asked to see the gun and if it was loaded. I opened the case & told her that it was not loaded. She placed the declaration ticket inside the gun case and gave me the stub. That was it. The gun had both cylinder & scope installed. I never dealt with TSA and the gun. I had TSA locks on the gun case. What shocked me was that the gun came out with the regular checked baggage in DC. If I was not present to claim it, anyone could have taken it.....some security.

I would recommend that you get to the airport very early and if possible have someone take you in the event you have to leave your pistol behind. The rules are in place but is subject to (mis)interpretation.

I would be more concerned with entry into Panama.

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-bp
Joined: June 5th, 2009, 4:21 pm

January 13th, 2011, 6:26 pm #9

put only REAL locks on a gun case and never let anyone but yourself have the key. this is a regulation, not just my idle prattling.

tsa people are not experienced or qualified to inspect a firearm, and are not allowed to have the key to the case

stay well, good luck with the panama end of the trip

-bp
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Joined: February 16th, 2004, 3:40 am

January 13th, 2011, 6:32 pm #10

situation when I was going, therefore I erred on the side of using TSA locks. I actually brought regular locks with me as well, but no one said anything about the TSA locks so I let it go at that. The rules are in place, but unfortunately subject to (mis)interpretation.

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