Xweb 2.0 TREE FORUM! Huge step forward (or? lol) in development

Xweb 2.0 TREE FORUM! Huge step forward (or? lol) in development

Mac
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September 8th, 2008, 5:45 am #1

Pasted here from "global announcement" over on Xweb 2.0 fyi... Peace, -Mac


After a long day and night of surgery Xweb 2.0 is now functioning in a mode where the user can select to view either as "standard" (digest mode) or full tree forum view (as on Xweb 1.0, sort of, I'm still working on it). This is a custom (yours truly) adaptation of a hack/mod that was developed elsewhere for an older version of our software system. As far as I know, we are now the only system out there running this on our most modern latest available version and it took a lot of trial and error to make it work here.

It is still not "done". I want to change how it still displays posts/threads in digest blocks when clicked into from the tree, BUT FOR NOW there are workarounds for just about every desire somewhere in the user settings, and it is all a rather good start if I say so, already we are finding much more success than I was honestly expecting so soon...

I am going to reset all the "default" view settings for new registrations and non-logged in viewers to grey background, tree mode, and individual post views when clicked. This will give as close a "mimic" of N54 Xweb 1.0's "behavior" as a latest cut of vbulletin could possibly manage (!)

If you are NOT logged in, you will receive this view but can still change the grey-or-white background in the style chooser (bottom left of screen), can modify the single post vs whole thread view options inside threads (upper right theres display modes menu) and even can sort chrono-vs-bump (look for display box at bottom of main forum section indexes), but alas if you want to shut off the tree format in the main forums and set a view to see the whole place "like normal vbulletin" you do need an account for that.

For those who do have accounts, to modify your default settings for tree-vs-digest forum and thread views beyond what is described above, log in, go to USERCP in top left then go to Edit Options on left, scroll down into threaded display options area, there, you can "enable/disable" "Threaded forum view" (enable=tree, disable=digest) and just up the page a bit from that is a dropdown box where you can select to see "linear" digest thread display (gives you the whole thread as opposed to just one post of it which is what "threaded" gives) or hybrid which we've been using as default til now. Dont forget to scroll to the very bottom when done and "save" settings

Enjoy playing around with it all folks and please do let me know if you encounter any glitches, as I am still chasing down plenty of them around here. More tweaks to come to 2.0 as my personal free time permits.

Peace, -Mac

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September 8th, 2008, 6:29 am #2

If you pop over there for the first time after this mod has been rolled out, do not be alarmed if you get past the entrance and find the forums showing up in your browser as empty (no threads in any forum), close out all your browser windows, clear your internet cache/temp/cookies and come back, and it will all reload anew

And if you are a 2.0 accountholder and you find it works when logged out but appears blank when you log in, go alter and recommit the tree view setting in usercp options as outlined upstream and then you should be set
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September 8th, 2008, 5:08 pm #3

Pasted here from "global announcement" over on Xweb 2.0 fyi... Peace, -Mac


After a long day and night of surgery Xweb 2.0 is now functioning in a mode where the user can select to view either as "standard" (digest mode) or full tree forum view (as on Xweb 1.0, sort of, I'm still working on it). This is a custom (yours truly) adaptation of a hack/mod that was developed elsewhere for an older version of our software system. As far as I know, we are now the only system out there running this on our most modern latest available version and it took a lot of trial and error to make it work here.

It is still not "done". I want to change how it still displays posts/threads in digest blocks when clicked into from the tree, BUT FOR NOW there are workarounds for just about every desire somewhere in the user settings, and it is all a rather good start if I say so, already we are finding much more success than I was honestly expecting so soon...

I am going to reset all the "default" view settings for new registrations and non-logged in viewers to grey background, tree mode, and individual post views when clicked. This will give as close a "mimic" of N54 Xweb 1.0's "behavior" as a latest cut of vbulletin could possibly manage (!)

If you are NOT logged in, you will receive this view but can still change the grey-or-white background in the style chooser (bottom left of screen), can modify the single post vs whole thread view options inside threads (upper right theres display modes menu) and even can sort chrono-vs-bump (look for display box at bottom of main forum section indexes), but alas if you want to shut off the tree format in the main forums and set a view to see the whole place "like normal vbulletin" you do need an account for that.

For those who do have accounts, to modify your default settings for tree-vs-digest forum and thread views beyond what is described above, log in, go to USERCP in top left then go to Edit Options on left, scroll down into threaded display options area, there, you can "enable/disable" "Threaded forum view" (enable=tree, disable=digest) and just up the page a bit from that is a dropdown box where you can select to see "linear" digest thread display (gives you the whole thread as opposed to just one post of it which is what "threaded" gives) or hybrid which we've been using as default til now. Dont forget to scroll to the very bottom when done and "save" settings

Enjoy playing around with it all folks and please do let me know if you encounter any glitches, as I am still chasing down plenty of them around here. More tweaks to come to 2.0 as my personal free time permits.

Peace, -Mac
with a flash countdown clock at the top as such:

http://www.carsandcoffee.info/forum/

???

I love the new forum!


RMMJ
1986 Bertone X1/9 a.k.a BlueTooth
www.socalx.com
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September 8th, 2008, 6:13 pm #4

Pasted here from "global announcement" over on Xweb 2.0 fyi... Peace, -Mac


After a long day and night of surgery Xweb 2.0 is now functioning in a mode where the user can select to view either as "standard" (digest mode) or full tree forum view (as on Xweb 1.0, sort of, I'm still working on it). This is a custom (yours truly) adaptation of a hack/mod that was developed elsewhere for an older version of our software system. As far as I know, we are now the only system out there running this on our most modern latest available version and it took a lot of trial and error to make it work here.

It is still not "done". I want to change how it still displays posts/threads in digest blocks when clicked into from the tree, BUT FOR NOW there are workarounds for just about every desire somewhere in the user settings, and it is all a rather good start if I say so, already we are finding much more success than I was honestly expecting so soon...

I am going to reset all the "default" view settings for new registrations and non-logged in viewers to grey background, tree mode, and individual post views when clicked. This will give as close a "mimic" of N54 Xweb 1.0's "behavior" as a latest cut of vbulletin could possibly manage (!)

If you are NOT logged in, you will receive this view but can still change the grey-or-white background in the style chooser (bottom left of screen), can modify the single post vs whole thread view options inside threads (upper right theres display modes menu) and even can sort chrono-vs-bump (look for display box at bottom of main forum section indexes), but alas if you want to shut off the tree format in the main forums and set a view to see the whole place "like normal vbulletin" you do need an account for that.

For those who do have accounts, to modify your default settings for tree-vs-digest forum and thread views beyond what is described above, log in, go to USERCP in top left then go to Edit Options on left, scroll down into threaded display options area, there, you can "enable/disable" "Threaded forum view" (enable=tree, disable=digest) and just up the page a bit from that is a dropdown box where you can select to see "linear" digest thread display (gives you the whole thread as opposed to just one post of it which is what "threaded" gives) or hybrid which we've been using as default til now. Dont forget to scroll to the very bottom when done and "save" settings

Enjoy playing around with it all folks and please do let me know if you encounter any glitches, as I am still chasing down plenty of them around here. More tweaks to come to 2.0 as my personal free time permits.

Peace, -Mac
A perfect time I think...

HA! 

I gotta aadmit... I'm sooooo comfortable here... but the new version has soooo many bells and whistles, kinda like a new cellphone... I'm afraid of the possibility of a really long learning curve.


My best,



Tony
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September 8th, 2008, 6:39 pm #5

Hey I'm a luddite too. Don't worry, there are a lot of settings indeed, but most of them are "one time only" kind of prefereces that you don't have to continually adjust once you've found a setting you like. And of the more frequently used stuff, it's really not so bad once you get familiar with which setting is where (I am still moving lots of stuff around though too so sorry if that causes any additional head scratchin )

Once you get your tree-vs-digest, grey-vs-white, post-vs-thread, chrono-vs-bump all configured the way you want it you can pretty much forget those items and just enjoy the place. Just getting the stuff set up up front is a little daunting compared to the options list on N54 for users (since most things here are set from the admin side... we're trying to offer more preferences on the user side this time)

Peace, -Mac
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September 8th, 2008, 6:41 pm #6

with a flash countdown clock at the top as such:

http://www.carsandcoffee.info/forum/

???

I love the new forum!


RMMJ
1986 Bertone X1/9 a.k.a BlueTooth
www.socalx.com
Thinking about it but we're not quite to the point yet where I am confident drawing a "drop dead" line in the sand for myself on the development effort lol! When it gets closer we'll figure out a celebratory date to whack 2.0 with the champagne bottle Good idea though on the counter we'll have to remember that
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Duane K Estill (Corinth, Mississippi)
Duane K Estill (Corinth, Mississippi)

September 8th, 2008, 7:41 pm #7

Hey I'm a luddite too. Don't worry, there are a lot of settings indeed, but most of them are "one time only" kind of prefereces that you don't have to continually adjust once you've found a setting you like. And of the more frequently used stuff, it's really not so bad once you get familiar with which setting is where (I am still moving lots of stuff around though too so sorry if that causes any additional head scratchin )

Once you get your tree-vs-digest, grey-vs-white, post-vs-thread, chrono-vs-bump all configured the way you want it you can pretty much forget those items and just enjoy the place. Just getting the stuff set up up front is a little daunting compared to the options list on N54 for users (since most things here are set from the admin side... we're trying to offer more preferences on the user side this time)

Peace, -Mac
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Mac

September 8th, 2008, 8:52 pm #8

No one's stoppin you from goin over there right now to play around

I just don't want to make a full-blown move until the thing is stable and the problems (the bigger ones anyway) have been at least somewhat sorted out.

It is better to make you all wait while I crash it over and over than to announce everyone move, and have it crash on me once everyones in there...

I am excited too about many of the new elements over there but still have more to do before we're going to be proclaiming it "ready" to move in

But we're working on it! Stay tuned...

Peace, -Mac
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Duane K Estill (Corinth, Mississippi)
Duane K Estill (Corinth, Mississippi)

September 8th, 2008, 9:34 pm #9

It's funny that the no-change resistance is now resisting on "when-to-change," I find this amusing.....seems like a general resistance to change rather than anything specific.

Maybe my view of such things is just different because I'm a web developer and the whole concept of new, faster, more stable, better organized websites is just normal business quite independant of personal whims.

Ergo....I see this whole thing as something that everyone will be just as at home with as they are here. What we will take to be something resembling 'comfort' can happen at other places too, perhaps to an even more enjoyable extent than previously thought.

You're doing a fantastic job, love the look, and the feel. I also have more than a passive inkling of the level of stupifyingly obtuse code work required to get one of these things to work.

Can't wait.....this place will continue to be just as special as ever in the new home....it's the community, the quality of the people, and of course the car.
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Ian Lawson (NZ)
Ian Lawson (NZ)

September 8th, 2008, 10:08 pm #10

A perfect time I think...

HA!&nbsp;

I gotta aadmit... I'm sooooo comfortable here... but the new version has soooo many bells and whistles, kinda like a new cellphone... I'm afraid of the possibility of a really long learning curve.


My best,



Tony
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<<<<< I'm afraid of the possibility of a really long learning curve.>>>>>>

Me too!!!


cheers, Ian - NZ


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