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April 23rd, 2008, 2:12 am #1

it was the wires. i cleaned the plugs, and carbs, it got a little better. i installed new wires that i had in the garage. { accel } and it runs great. just came back from marks shop, doing 85 down the fwy. i have new plugs that i wil install tommrow. thanx for all the advice.

reyy
longtime fiat freak
74 x1/9
san dimas, ca
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April 23rd, 2008, 7:03 am #2

I have a problem with the fix though.  Plug wires usually don't HARD fail like that and especially for all or most cylinders.  But... I don't wish you ill.  Hope that was it!

My best,



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Stockton Brad
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April 23rd, 2008, 10:17 pm #3

it was the wires. i cleaned the plugs, and carbs, it got a little better. i installed new wires that i had in the garage. { accel } and it runs great. just came back from marks shop, doing 85 down the fwy. i have new plugs that i wil install tommrow. thanx for all the advice.

reyy
longtime fiat freak
74 x1/9
san dimas, ca
USA
Again, on the older carburated cars, don't let your fuel level get below 1/3 full. My mechanic said running it to where the fuel warning light came on was the source of continually getting sediment crud in the carb and with one exception - my son let it happen again and sure enough, crud - it has never occurred again on our '76.

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lezesig
lezesig

April 23rd, 2008, 11:57 pm #4

Stockton Brad,

Head scratcher here Brad. Perhaps you can elaborate ? The fuel pickup siphons from near bottom of the fuel tank. What does the liquid level in the tank have to do with the amount of sediment and debris in the tank ? (save corrosion prevention and mechanical sluff of rust)


Reason I ask ? I've been thinking abount my fuel tank lately....I suspect I'll find shellac ...lol

lezesig '79 X 1/9
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Stockton Brad
Stockton Brad

April 24th, 2008, 2:22 am #5

is that we haven't suffered any other incidents - again, but for that one instance - in 7 years. Perhaps more fuel in the tank allows the crud to disperse more freely? Other than that and the mechanics experience and recommendation, I got nothin'.

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April 25th, 2008, 7:29 am #6

I have a problem with the fix though.&nbsp; Plug wires usually don't HARD fail like that and especially for all or most cylinders.&nbsp; But... I don't wish you ill.&nbsp; Hope that was it!

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Would be the coil ht wire Tony eh? Now to something interesting.... ha ha.. MY>... yes My distributor... the lid comes away from it's designed position now n then.. and.. when it does I can tell.. as you would assume.. but it doesn't stop the engine.. bloody things keep on running with the dizzy cap almost off ha ha... " diesel"?
I've got the one with no vacuum advance.... gives me a bite when I try to put it back on with engine running..
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April 25th, 2008, 8:23 am #7


I also considered the coil wire in that scenerio... and did experience such a failure ONCE on a JEEP.&nbsp; Really strange... stranded us two couples one night and couldn't figure it out!

As to YOUR cap... Do you have a camshaft mounted dizzy or is it driven off the aux shaft vertically near the front of the engine?

I'm not familiar with a dizzy without vacuum advance unit.&nbsp; Was it removed?

In any case... I would think the spring clips would need a tweak and also check the rotor for clearance.&nbsp; See if the shaft is wobbly also, as your sleeve beating may be worn and the rotor collides with the terminals and knocks the cap ajar.


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April 25th, 2008, 10:04 am #8

I wonder about myself myself... Yes Tony It's where most engines have their dizzy... on the side where a side camshaft would be on most other engines.. I reckon the out of place heater hose I put in to fit a steam valve.. as the heater valve under the dash is not worth removing.. no trouble to open the lid and turn it offoron.. and.. one gets to look at the engine again.... I pulled the distributor to bits when the donk was out on the ground. it's simple just uses the bobweights for advance.. there is another vacuum dizzy that is used in this european model as wellski ( that's russian for ' well')
I'm just knockin back a tooheys new.. with my tea.. (evening meal in australian)
Cheers Neil..ski
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April 25th, 2008, 4:58 pm #9


Well... most dizzys I've seen use the vacuum advance to position the "breaker plate" and if it was removed. something else would go there to hold it from rotating.

I have heard of dizzys with just the centrifical advance... but never have seen one.&nbsp; If you overhauled it,,, did you notice any slop on the rotor post when it went back together?&nbsp; Is there any indication that the rotor is HITTING any of the terminals ot portions of the inside of the cap?&nbsp; (I had this happen on a cam mounted Honda that had a broken gasket under the cap, that allowed the cap to wiggle!)

Alas... I understood the "well-ski" comment... but ya have me perplexed with "tooheys new"!

HA!

Still wonderin'...


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April 25th, 2008, 11:07 pm #10




of course you need it X 24 in a slab.. a coupla dozen will see me out for a weekend on board on my own.
I still don't know which link thing to paste to get the pics running in here. This time I chose only the " instant message / email" link.
I fiddled with the M in midgee on a photo software.. as Midgee is the boats name when I brought it.. but I can see it's easily changed to Widgee, Widgee... if it means nothing to you, was a term for a certain culture from the 50's 60's " bodgies and widgees' you would call ' the Fonze' a bodgie, here in that era, suede desert boots, purple sox, skin tight pants with zips up the calf to get em off n on, purple shirt or some other outlandish colour that offended the status quo.. and the sunnies..
There was a classic case in my small suburb when growing up.. had the duck tail hair do with the kiss curl hangin over the forehead. but wore suit coats and a square bottom tie that went down to his crutch ha ha... I'm told he hung himself lateron.. a gentle giant, he was. if you rode a motorbike with a group of others.. here.. leather jackets flyin boots.. you were called Rockers.. a pommy term I think.
then it became in the late sixties " bikies" and now the usa influence has changed it to Bikers... I still say " bikie" in my efforts at historic reference to the young.. Yep I rode with ' devil's dozen' the Newcastle city group of " motorcyclists??" Got the one and only pic, here somewhere.. loved rippin round corners as fast as I could.. " cops hated me doin that"
Oh the dizzy... no mate the dizzy is in good nick but I'm wondering if the cap is off a later model as in the manual it shows a cap with vertical ht sockets but mine is the horizontal on one side ones.. and .. they interfere with number one plug lead, ( I just got given a 90degree plastic cap for no.1 plug off a mate who has jag stuff, ( oh no not british over italian.. will it = success??) here are the european models after 77 dizzies. 1300 models marelli S135F and Ducellier 4526A. Before 77 a Ducellier S135B
According to my Brooklands Books X19 workshop manual.
You'l get readers cramp mate..... ha.. Cheers Neil





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