Trying to learn more…part 2

Trying to learn more…part 2

Joined: May 17th, 2008, 5:05 am

May 26th, 2008, 10:45 pm #1

I’ve just discovered that water is used in my cooling system. Now I want to drain it and replace with proper coolant. I’ve also read up all I can about this and I have questions again:

1) If I pull the bottom hose in the engine bay, water would pour onto the gear box right below it but I see a hole (or a window) right on top of the gear box there (probably to do something with the flywheel?), so wouldn’t water get inside that hole and mess up clutch, gear, flywheel and whatever inside it? How to avoid this?
2) I understand there is a drain plug on the engine to drain coolant from the engine block but I cannot find it. Where should I look?
3) I see a hole at the left side near the headlight when I lift the front hood. Is it where I bleed the radiator? How do I access it? By climbing inside the trunk or I have to take off the hood completely?
4) I also see a “T-flush” on the heater hose just above the yellow belt cover. Can I open that knob to bleed instead?

Thank you
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Joined: July 19th, 2007, 6:15 pm

May 26th, 2008, 10:55 pm #2

Toonee,

Have a look at my snapshots in the albums 051708 and 052308. Lots of pics that may help you locate stuff.

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Joined: August 6th, 2005, 6:03 pm

May 26th, 2008, 11:30 pm #3

I’ve just discovered that water is used in my cooling system. Now I want to drain it and replace with proper coolant. I’ve also read up all I can about this and I have questions again:

1) If I pull the bottom hose in the engine bay, water would pour onto the gear box right below it but I see a hole (or a window) right on top of the gear box there (probably to do something with the flywheel?), so wouldn’t water get inside that hole and mess up clutch, gear, flywheel and whatever inside it? How to avoid this?
2) I understand there is a drain plug on the engine to drain coolant from the engine block but I cannot find it. Where should I look?
3) I see a hole at the left side near the headlight when I lift the front hood. Is it where I bleed the radiator? How do I access it? By climbing inside the trunk or I have to take off the hood completely?
4) I also see a “T-flush” on the heater hose just above the yellow belt cover. Can I open that knob to bleed instead?

Thank you
1) no need to pull that hose.

2) the drain on the engine block is a petcock, right between cylinders 2 and 3 on the rearward facing side of the block. Almost dead center, but it is small, maybe 3/8" diameter.

3) correct that is the bleed screw for the radiator. You can just reach in with an allen wrench (6mm, IIRC) and open and close it. Be gentle, those guys sometimes get finicky.

4) not really. air gets trapped at the high points in the system - those locations are in the heater core and in the top of the radiator. Bleed the rad per #3 above, and the heater core - just leave it open and eventually it will work out the air bubbles. Bleeding at the T-flush wont get air out of the heater core or rad.

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Joined: December 21st, 2004, 3:04 am

May 27th, 2008, 12:05 am #4

I’ve just discovered that water is used in my cooling system. Now I want to drain it and replace with proper coolant. I’ve also read up all I can about this and I have questions again:

1) If I pull the bottom hose in the engine bay, water would pour onto the gear box right below it but I see a hole (or a window) right on top of the gear box there (probably to do something with the flywheel?), so wouldn’t water get inside that hole and mess up clutch, gear, flywheel and whatever inside it? How to avoid this?
2) I understand there is a drain plug on the engine to drain coolant from the engine block but I cannot find it. Where should I look?
3) I see a hole at the left side near the headlight when I lift the front hood. Is it where I bleed the radiator? How do I access it? By climbing inside the trunk or I have to take off the hood completely?
4) I also see a “T-flush” on the heater hose just above the yellow belt cover. Can I open that knob to bleed instead?

Thank you
1) If I pull the bottom hose in the engine bay, water would pour onto the gear box right below it but I see a hole (or a window) right on top of the gear box there (probably to do something with the flywheel?), so wouldn’t water get inside that hole and mess up clutch, gear, flywheel and whatever inside it? How to avoid this?

<STRONG>I suggest you pull the hose off the pipes leading forward to the radiator from under the car then...</STRONG>

<STRONG>I had no problem lifting the hose you suggested but moved it out of the way so it would not drown the clutch.&nbsp; There is probably a drain there anyway... but liek I said, drain it elsewhere if you think you're gonna have a problem.</STRONG>

2) I understand there is a drain plug on the engine to drain coolant from the engine block but I cannot find it. Where should I look?
3) I see a hole at the left side near the headlight when I lift the front hood. Is it where I bleed the radiator? How do I access it? By climbing inside the trunk or I have to take off the hood completely?

<STRONG>Answers to 3 and 4 are the same.&nbsp; If you haven't opened either of these lately, then you run the risk of:</STRONG>

<STRONG>1. Breaking them off</STRONG>

<STRONG>2. Breaking them internally</STRONG>

<STRONG>3. Not being able to close them tight again.</STRONG>

<STRONG>Your choice.</STRONG>

<STRONG>Unless you are prepared tp drill, retap, and replace these peacocks, I suggest not touching them.</STRONG>

4) I also see a “T-flush” on the heater hose just above the yellow belt cover. Can I open that knob to bleed instead?

<STRONG>The purpose of this aftermarket flush tee is to:</STRONG>

<STRONG>1.&nbsp; Force water out of the block and the system... usually UP and OUT of the reservoir...</STRONG>

<STRONG>2.&nbsp; Fill the system and FORCE air out of the top of the radiator using house water pressure.&nbsp; This can also be done at the pipes using a hose and some rags down below... and then quickly reattaching the radiator hose.</STRONG>

<STRONG>3.&nbsp; It was never intended for bleeding the system... only the front radiator peacock was.&nbsp; See warning above...</STRONG>

<STRONG>Hope this helps...</STRONG>


My best,



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Eric Hamilton (Durham NC)
Eric Hamilton (Durham NC)

May 27th, 2008, 1:38 am #5

I’ve just discovered that water is used in my cooling system. Now I want to drain it and replace with proper coolant. I’ve also read up all I can about this and I have questions again:

1) If I pull the bottom hose in the engine bay, water would pour onto the gear box right below it but I see a hole (or a window) right on top of the gear box there (probably to do something with the flywheel?), so wouldn’t water get inside that hole and mess up clutch, gear, flywheel and whatever inside it? How to avoid this?
2) I understand there is a drain plug on the engine to drain coolant from the engine block but I cannot find it. Where should I look?
3) I see a hole at the left side near the headlight when I lift the front hood. Is it where I bleed the radiator? How do I access it? By climbing inside the trunk or I have to take off the hood completely?
4) I also see a “T-flush” on the heater hose just above the yellow belt cover. Can I open that knob to bleed instead?

Thank you
Like Damon says, you don't need to pull the hose at the thermostat. If you look under the car at the front, where the straight part of the metal fore-and-aft tubes end, you'll you see that each tube has a little hex-head drain tap in it. Open these, and you'll drain everything low and forward in the car; the petcock on the back of the engine block takes care of the rest.


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Joined: July 19th, 2007, 6:15 pm

May 27th, 2008, 5:51 am #6

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Joined: July 19th, 2007, 6:15 pm

May 27th, 2008, 6:11 am #7

I’ve just discovered that water is used in my cooling system. Now I want to drain it and replace with proper coolant. I’ve also read up all I can about this and I have questions again:

1) If I pull the bottom hose in the engine bay, water would pour onto the gear box right below it but I see a hole (or a window) right on top of the gear box there (probably to do something with the flywheel?), so wouldn’t water get inside that hole and mess up clutch, gear, flywheel and whatever inside it? How to avoid this?
2) I understand there is a drain plug on the engine to drain coolant from the engine block but I cannot find it. Where should I look?
3) I see a hole at the left side near the headlight when I lift the front hood. Is it where I bleed the radiator? How do I access it? By climbing inside the trunk or I have to take off the hood completely?
4) I also see a “T-flush” on the heater hose just above the yellow belt cover. Can I open that knob to bleed instead?

Thank you
Hi Toonee,

I know it doesn't show well being a black radiator in front of black tires, but look closely at the upper left corner of the rad in this pic to see the long tube sticking out. That hole in the front left trunk lets you access this bleeder.

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Joined: May 17th, 2008, 5:05 am

May 27th, 2008, 5:50 pm #8

I’ve just discovered that water is used in my cooling system. Now I want to drain it and replace with proper coolant. I’ve also read up all I can about this and I have questions again:

1) If I pull the bottom hose in the engine bay, water would pour onto the gear box right below it but I see a hole (or a window) right on top of the gear box there (probably to do something with the flywheel?), so wouldn’t water get inside that hole and mess up clutch, gear, flywheel and whatever inside it? How to avoid this?
2) I understand there is a drain plug on the engine to drain coolant from the engine block but I cannot find it. Where should I look?
3) I see a hole at the left side near the headlight when I lift the front hood. Is it where I bleed the radiator? How do I access it? By climbing inside the trunk or I have to take off the hood completely?
4) I also see a “T-flush” on the heater hose just above the yellow belt cover. Can I open that knob to bleed instead?

Thank you
Thank you guys. Dan must have been remanufacturing every part of the car to specs, with pictures to boot. I seem to have a problem though. I put my finger in that hole to feel it (did wash my hands first and it’s almost flat, I didn’t feel the head of an Allen screw. Could it be covered by any plug or lid that I have to remove to expose the screw? I thought it is a plastic plug and tried to lift it but couldn’t. It seems to be a metal part and round. This is all done by feel because I couldn’t stick my head in there to see! Is there another way to bleed or I have to pull the radiator out to see what’s covering that tube?
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Joined: May 17th, 2008, 5:05 am

May 27th, 2008, 5:52 pm #9

I’ve just discovered that water is used in my cooling system. Now I want to drain it and replace with proper coolant. I’ve also read up all I can about this and I have questions again:

1) If I pull the bottom hose in the engine bay, water would pour onto the gear box right below it but I see a hole (or a window) right on top of the gear box there (probably to do something with the flywheel?), so wouldn’t water get inside that hole and mess up clutch, gear, flywheel and whatever inside it? How to avoid this?
2) I understand there is a drain plug on the engine to drain coolant from the engine block but I cannot find it. Where should I look?
3) I see a hole at the left side near the headlight when I lift the front hood. Is it where I bleed the radiator? How do I access it? By climbing inside the trunk or I have to take off the hood completely?
4) I also see a “T-flush” on the heater hose just above the yellow belt cover. Can I open that knob to bleed instead?

Thank you
Deleted! Sorry, I posted twice!
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May 27th, 2008, 10:13 pm #10

Thank you guys. Dan must have been remanufacturing every part of the car to specs, with pictures to boot. I seem to have a problem though. I put my finger in that hole to feel it (did wash my hands first and it’s almost flat, I didn’t feel the head of an Allen screw. Could it be covered by any plug or lid that I have to remove to expose the screw? I thought it is a plastic plug and tried to lift it but couldn’t. It seems to be a metal part and round. This is all done by feel because I couldn’t stick my head in there to see! Is there another way to bleed or I have to pull the radiator out to see what’s covering that tube?
You can jack the front of your car up (do not have to, but makes it easier from what I remember) and take the front grille off. Then reach up in the front and run your hand along the top of the radiator. You should find the allen wrench hole, what is it, 8mm, pretty big. My guess is that your bleed hole on the Rad does not line up with the hole in the trunk. I had to cut a bigger hole in the late Orange Crush to get to this bleed point and then found it easier to go through the front.

Carl
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