I now know a new word ..STRUTS !!!

I now know a new word ..STRUTS !!!

George(Cyprus)
George(Cyprus)

March 18th, 2008, 9:11 am #1

iv been searching and searching on the forum for SHOCK ABSORBERS only to realize and find out that they are called STRUTS ...i now also know that a STRUT is a complete unit of coil spring+shock absorber etc...

i need to replace the shock absorbers (at least i thought it was shock absorbers) on the X..its has no resistance whrn u press down on it and when i come of the paveing the tyre touches the arch....

The X does not have a shock absorber as such but rather a CARTRIDGE (similar to shock absorber),that is housed in the struct compontent ??? Right ???


Is this the only part i need to replace -the CARTRIDGES- (i found some Monroe, dont know the model though) and the guy will let me have them for 38 Euros each (VAT is included in the price)... do you think Monroe are worth it, or should i pay some more money for something more similar (like the KYB ones mentinoed int eh Best of Section ) ???

should i not worry about the old Coil springs ????


Shed some light before i waste my money !!!!

Thanks,

George
(Cyprus)
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George(Cyprus)
George(Cyprus)

March 18th, 2008, 9:19 am #2

ive been told by the spare parts dude that all 4 shock absorbers (well...the cartridges) are the SAME !!!

in the best of section i read that they are different for front and rear (at least the KYB models)!!!!

any more info on this please ???

Thanks

George
(Cyprus)
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Joined: December 2nd, 2004, 3:32 pm

March 18th, 2008, 11:05 am #3

iv been searching and searching on the forum for SHOCK ABSORBERS only to realize and find out that they are called STRUTS ...i now also know that a STRUT is a complete unit of coil spring+shock absorber etc...

i need to replace the shock absorbers (at least i thought it was shock absorbers) on the X..its has no resistance whrn u press down on it and when i come of the paveing the tyre touches the arch....

The X does not have a shock absorber as such but rather a CARTRIDGE (similar to shock absorber),that is housed in the struct compontent ??? Right ???


Is this the only part i need to replace -the CARTRIDGES- (i found some Monroe, dont know the model though) and the guy will let me have them for 38 Euros each (VAT is included in the price)... do you think Monroe are worth it, or should i pay some more money for something more similar (like the KYB ones mentinoed int eh Best of Section ) ???

should i not worry about the old Coil springs ????


Shed some light before i waste my money !!!!

Thanks,

George
(Cyprus)
definatelly time to replace as a matter of safety. As for the springs, they should be re-usable, they may be slightly deformed from age, but still serviceable. You have indeed read correct, front and rear struts are NOT the same. As to Monroe vs other struts, I cant help you, I dont know anything about Monroe, I have read the KYB are good all around struts, but not performance oriented. Other parts of the strut may need replaced as needed according to condition, but many people strongly suggest Plaia Pivots to replace the large washer and plastic "slider" in the top mount. I have to get a set myself, someday. Hope that helps. Dave
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Hans
Hans

March 18th, 2008, 11:19 am #4

ive been told by the spare parts dude that all 4 shock absorbers (well...the cartridges) are the SAME !!!

in the best of section i read that they are different for front and rear (at least the KYB models)!!!!

any more info on this please ???

Thanks

George
(Cyprus)
Last winter I installed the KYB struts on all corners. One important issue: fronts where from '71 to '89 exactly the same (as in, '71 fits '89 X, and vice versa), rears changend when the 1500 was introduced, so '79 and onward. As far as I now, the only new struts produced today (KYB or other) are 1500 rears. If you want to fit them to a 1300, you will also need to replace the rear top spring perch. No biggie, just a thing to keep in mind. (I didn't )

Anywho, I have the KYB'all around, it drives great so far. Still stock springs, no lowering. Since the Dutch government loves speed bumps, I'll keep it that way.

About the inserts, I have no experience in that, but I believe only certain years had the insert type strut (?somewhere around '75?). I also believe it is possible to convert the non-insert trut to accept inserts, but you'll have to search the archives for that (or maybe someone will chime in soon)

Good luck!
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Joined: December 21st, 2004, 3:04 am

March 19th, 2008, 4:30 am #5

iv been searching and searching on the forum for SHOCK ABSORBERS only to realize and find out that they are called STRUTS ...i now also know that a STRUT is a complete unit of coil spring+shock absorber etc...

i need to replace the shock absorbers (at least i thought it was shock absorbers) on the X..its has no resistance whrn u press down on it and when i come of the paveing the tyre touches the arch....

The X does not have a shock absorber as such but rather a CARTRIDGE (similar to shock absorber),that is housed in the struct compontent ??? Right ???


Is this the only part i need to replace -the CARTRIDGES- (i found some Monroe, dont know the model though) and the guy will let me have them for 38 Euros each (VAT is included in the price)... do you think Monroe are worth it, or should i pay some more money for something more similar (like the KYB ones mentinoed int eh Best of Section ) ???

should i not worry about the old Coil springs ????


Shed some light before i waste my money !!!!

Thanks,

George
(Cyprus)
... now run 59.00 each.. you'll haveta call aout shipping.

Try Henk  in the Netherlands also...


My best,



Tony
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George(Cyprus)
George(Cyprus)

March 19th, 2008, 6:06 am #6

I already sent a few emails last night (3 to the US and 1 to UK) enquiting about availability of KYB struts for X1/9...
so far 1 Us firm rreplied that they do not ship overseas ...

im waiting for the others as well...

meanwhile...how do i contact HEN ???


Thank you,

George
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March 20th, 2008, 6:13 am #7



My best,



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Joined: October 31st, 2007, 7:50 pm

March 26th, 2008, 4:36 am #8

Last winter I installed the KYB struts on all corners. One important issue: fronts where from '71 to '89 exactly the same (as in, '71 fits '89 X, and vice versa), rears changend when the 1500 was introduced, so '79 and onward. As far as I now, the only new struts produced today (KYB or other) are 1500 rears. If you want to fit them to a 1300, you will also need to replace the rear top spring perch. No biggie, just a thing to keep in mind. (I didn't )

Anywho, I have the KYB'all around, it drives great so far. Still stock springs, no lowering. Since the Dutch government loves speed bumps, I'll keep it that way.

About the inserts, I have no experience in that, but I believe only certain years had the insert type strut (?somewhere around '75?). I also believe it is possible to convert the non-insert trut to accept inserts, but you'll have to search the archives for that (or maybe someone will chime in soon)

Good luck!
Just how do you do the rear top spring perch?

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