Historically Relevant (?) thread transplant from FS&W

Historically Relevant (?) thread transplant from FS&W


March 4th, 2008, 5:26 pm #1

This seems worthy of "archival glory"...?

148 original miles THE real deal on Evil bay...
March 3 2008 at 3:47 AM Greg


87 X sold at the Barrett Jackson auction in 02' with the red sister car.Now this one should draw the 10k money unlike the other resent auctions. JD time to cash out the Saratoga!

Just saw it!!!.... March 3 2008, 7:29 AM

wondering how much its gonna get.Maybe he`s testing the waters..............Al

Dan Sarandrea (Phila)
Re: Just saw it!!!.... March 4 2008, 8:03 AM

Yup, agree that this is really an '86 if you go by what the car has on it.

Tron wheels up thru '86, phone dials thereafter
No wide body side molding '86, wide molding thereafter

Other things on '87s only that we can't see in the provided pix:
"Bertone" door sill plates
Padded "full coverage" steering wheel center hub
A/C has square buttons with circular embossing

Although it does seem to have a center high mounted stop light, seen thru the windshield in the two pix taken from the front

The seller does seem to be somewhat of a jackass---a condescending writeup and too cheap to post some decent photos.

Bob Beaudet
Wrong wheels and no body side molding. March 3 2008, 7:40 AM

No doubt it is probally titled as an 87 but I thought all 87's had phone dials and body side molding. I have seen 87 cars with build dates in early 86 that still had these features.


Yur correct Bob but.... March 3 2008, 8:37 AM

148 original miles!!! He looks like a big collector from that showroom picture he shows.He probably realizes that this is not the type of vehicle that will jump in value like a Shelby...and bought with his heart.I wish I had 10K + lying around.

You have to drive it. March 3 2008, 9:52 AM

I really don't think that this car will ever go up in value enough to make it worthwhile to just hold on to it. Besides, the car will deteriorate faster if it is not being used, and the parts that will deteriorate probably will be the ones that are not available for replacement.

1984 X

You NOS lovin' guy, you... March 3 2008, 4:17 PM

Sounds like match made in heaven to me.
But the question to ask yourself is...
would you rather have the joy/pain of completing your current project,
or the joy of a turnkey survivor, with pain of $$$ expended.

Pride of craftsmanship is a key element to me.
But then, I'm also loving an awesome turnkey 128,
that someone else spent the time/energy on resurrection.
As will the new owner of IceBlueX...a turnkey X.
Merit to both processes.

Suspect your level of resurrection quality would add up
to within striking distance of a NOS example cost.
Only other thought is...personal inspection to
insure it is up to expectations. I've found pics
don't show the detail at all...good, or bad.

Hope that helps.

Mike Richmond
thread hijack- would you drive it? March 3 2008, 8:43 AM

My heart started to beat faster when I saw this ad.

But a question nags. Suppose I threw caution and dollars to the wind and bought it?

Would it be a sin against the Fiat gods to drive it, maybe 5,000 - 6,000 miles per year?

The current owner speaks of 'his collection'. No cars are allowed in the Richmond garage that do not have at least a fig leaf of usefulness.

So for me, the answer is clear: if I bought it, I'd drive it. But that answer begs the question: should I buy it?


former owner of Mittlestead's 128.
current owner of too-modified restored '77 Spider purchased new for my lovely bride
current owner of my son's '87X he bought for $400, fixed mechanically but still ratty looking

I would take my front house doors off the hinges... March 3 2008, 9:07 AM

and park that baby right in my livingroom!I wouldn't have the heart to drive it...

Mark Plaia, Springfield, OR
Buy it, Mike!...... March 3 2008, 12:49 PM

You are the perfect owner for this car. For those of you who do not know him, Mike Richmond is just about the most fastidious guy out there when it comes to owning a car. This car could not find a better home. And, it needs to be driven.


Mark Plaia
SeaX member #007
74 X1/9 - il mela verde

I may bid on it March 3 2008, 9:47 AM

just to be able to say "Dude.. I bid on that car but I lost to a sniper at the last minute!!"

And the cost of a Saratoga top won't get you anywhere near this "new" X. Last Saratoga I saw on Ebay-UK only went for about $700.


Re: 148 original miles THE real deal on Evil bay... March 3 2008, 12:18 PM

The first CarFax record is 11/01/1999 "passed emissions" in CA. Similar records thru end of 2001 in CA. Then it move to MN, then to IL. Last record is 12/17/2002. No mileage records are shown at all.

I bid 7200 March 3 2008, 1:05 PM

Bidder Bid Amount Bid Time

4***t( 7 ) US $7,250.00 Mar-03-08 12:19:54 PST
jjay911( 82) US $7,200.00 Mar-03-08 08:26:37 PST
4***t( 7 ) US $6,950.00 Mar-03-08 12:19:28 PST
o***o( 270) US $6,750.00 Mar-03-08 08:14:21 PST
e***i( 241) US $6,666.00 Mar-03-08 07:38:36 PST
4***t( 7 ) US $6,450.00 Mar-03-08 07:49:30 PST
4***t( 7 ) US $6,250.00 Mar-03-08 07:36:32 PST
g***9( 74) US $6,000.00 Mar-03-08 07:11:19 PST
4***t( 7 ) US $6,000.00 Mar-03-08 07:36:08 PST
o***o( 270) US $5,500.00 Mar-03-08 06:08:52 PST
g***9( 74) US $5,500.00 Mar-03-08 07:11:03 PST
g***9( 74) US $5,300.00 Mar-03-08 07:10:49 PST
t***o( 12)

Paul (kayaker37)
look at the rest March 3 2008, 1:48 PM

I wish he had a larger version of the lower left picture which shows the X1/9, two Messerschmits, an Isetta, and an Esprit. Looks like in a house? Anyway it's neater than our house!

Such good taste in cars.

Karl Mead
This may be one of the cars from the El Monte dealer March 3 2008, 3:18 PM

There used to be a dealer in El Monte, CA (Valley off Rosemead as I recall). When I left LA in '93 that car was still there. I sat in it many many times during the six years I lived in the area. At the time he wouldn't budge on price. It is an 86 likely built in late 85.

Either way, I would love to own it. Now to convince my wife that the house can wait another year...

Mike Richmond
twin? March 3 2008, 9:26 PM

Is this the other car mentioned in the ad... red sold at the same auction?

If so, what issues did you have with a car that had been sitting so long?

Did you drive it home?


Kevin B (Asheville, NC)
The red car March 4 2008, 5:58 AM

Hi Mike:

The red car showed up for sale a couple years ago.
$10K +
Was ebay and dealer website available.

Rims swapped for the 4 spoke reproductions like whats on my car.
Stereo added.

Looked good.

Whoever bought it, later oput it bacl on ebay. Again $10k +
B-J had the historic photos of these cars in its auction history files. A couple of the photos on the silver / blue car are the same as the B-J auction photos.

FWIW, a lot of teh bertone cars sat on lots for years before being sold.
Mine was new at Corvette of Gastonia (near charlotte) and was sold new in 1987, but titled properly as a 85.

Best regards,

Peter in GA
Here's a pic of one with 1740 original miles. March 3 2008, 6:37 PM

Titled as an 87.



Peace, -Mac



March 4th, 2008, 5:35 pm #2

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Fiat-X1- ... enameZWDVW

And I still recall when these two cars were sold originally and we discussed that here too!

Kevin B (Asheville, NC)
Kevin B (Asheville, NC)

March 4th, 2008, 8:14 pm #3

I was the opening bidder at $5000.

I e-mailed the auction to my wife and this is the response i got:

"geez...I would love to be in a position to buy it for you....

your claire"

And she doesn't understand my affliction for cars, and expecially, x-1/9's.

Go figure.

Love your show!


March 6th, 2008, 12:35 am #4

Current bid: US $8,050.00
Reserve not met

Meet the seller
Seller: buysbux( 1158)
Feedback: 99.7% Positive
Member: since Oct-10-99 in United States

End time: Mar-09-08 20:40:44 PDT (4 days 3 hours)
Shipping: See item description for shipping details.
Sells to: Worldwide
Item location: Lincolnwood, Illinois, United States
History: 17 bids
High bidder: e***s ( private )


Joined: January 1st, 1970, 12:00 am

March 6th, 2008, 3:02 am #5

Gees I only turned my back a couple hours

Current bid: US $9,000.00

End time: Mar-09-08 20:40:44 PDT (4 days)

History: 19 bids
High bidder: n***4( 3 )

Joined: June 16th, 2004, 3:48 am

March 6th, 2008, 4:13 am #6



March 6th, 2008, 4:53 am #7

It's not me, I'm not bidding. I would feel too guilty driving this one (just me) I'd probably want to preserve it, if I were buying it, or even on the market for one, which I'm not, and to do it I'd need a good dry indoor space - and I don't think I could buy a house in the next 4 days...

Joined: June 16th, 2004, 3:48 am

March 6th, 2008, 1:35 pm #8

I would have to drive it. I figure it would only be of greater benefit to someone else eventually. I understand someone doing this however,but not for me. I would however try to keep it pristine.


March 8th, 2008, 5:06 pm #9

Gees I only turned my back a couple hours

Current bid: US $9,000.00

End time: Mar-09-08 20:40:44 PDT (4 days)

History: 19 bids
High bidder: n***4( 3 )
Current bid: US $10,200.00

End time: Mar-09-08 20:40:44 PDT (1 day 10 hours)

History: 26 bids
High bidder: 4***t( 7 )

Joined: June 16th, 2004, 3:48 am

March 9th, 2008, 1:10 am #10

I'm considering new paint,appoltery,dash repair,rug and possible int.colour change. This would roughly be
$ 3500.00 . So to buy one in this cond would be abargain. Mine has 200000 km. on it.