Brakes, do any other fiat ones bolt right on

Brakes, do any other fiat ones bolt right on

Joined: February 5th, 2005, 10:32 pm

April 24th, 2008, 12:52 pm #1

heard the uno turbo ones will then read somewhere the uno turbo ones also bolt onto the 124, so maybe there are other fiat ones that will bolt right onto the X1/9??

Just thinking out loud... might have to go to the wreckers and try some out.

Roger
South Australia

1980 Series II 1.3 4M X1/9 Uno T conversion underway
1981 Series II 1.5 5M X1/9 Daily driver
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Jason Greenwood
Jason Greenwood

April 24th, 2008, 2:56 pm #2

According to PBS's manual... The Lancia Beta Coupe rear disks, with the front caliper bracket, and the stock front caliper. This gives you a larger (still not ventilated) rotor. You have to modify the caliper bracket, rotor, and a stock wheel spacer.

This will also skew your brake balance, giving you more front brake power (relative). You may also then want to look at using Lancia Scorpion rear calipers as they have a larger piston, and may get you back close to a stock balance.

Of course, get all the specs, do all the math and make sure this is safe for you. This is basically the setup I am running on my Scorpion. The Scorpion came stock with a brake booster, which has been removed. The Beta rotors seems to have brought a decent balance to my setup, as I swear it stops considerably quicker than my X did (seat-of-pants break-o-meter).

Jason Greenwood
www.ferrarikillers.com

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Joined: October 15th, 2007, 3:50 am

April 24th, 2008, 3:08 pm #3

heard the uno turbo ones will then read somewhere the uno turbo ones also bolt onto the 124, so maybe there are other fiat ones that will bolt right onto the X1/9??

Just thinking out loud... might have to go to the wreckers and try some out.

Roger
South Australia

1980 Series II 1.3 4M X1/9 Uno T conversion underway
1981 Series II 1.5 5M X1/9 Daily driver
I got a set of Uno Turbo calipers, brackets and rotors a while ago. Rebuilt the calipers, had them powder coated and are now ready to install with new vented rotors and pads. I'm not sure if the stock X brake hose will route properly until I get them mounted up on the car..

These calipers have new seals and powder coated yellow.

This set of Uno Turbo front calipers, new rotors and pads are from ebay UK, seal kit from Dino Enterprise in NZ.

I suspect there are other FIAT brakes that should be a pretty close direct bolt on to the X.

If you do find another set of front Uno Turbo brakes in your yard journeys, send me an email as I would be interested in another set of these.











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Dean Rees
Dean Rees

April 24th, 2008, 5:37 pm #4

I had heard that you needed to go to 14" wheels to clear the Uno Turbo set-up.
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Joined: May 8th, 2006, 10:58 am

April 24th, 2008, 10:44 pm #5

heard the uno turbo ones will then read somewhere the uno turbo ones also bolt onto the 124, so maybe there are other fiat ones that will bolt right onto the X1/9??

Just thinking out loud... might have to go to the wreckers and try some out.

Roger
South Australia

1980 Series II 1.3 4M X1/9 Uno T conversion underway
1981 Series II 1.5 5M X1/9 Daily driver
I find the X brakes are great.
I don't know how they would go under race conditions but.. well I'm not goin racin eh but a fast brake from 140k works fine.

Cheers Neil
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Rachael
Rachael

April 24th, 2008, 11:15 pm #6

I had heard that you needed to go to 14" wheels to clear the Uno Turbo set-up.
I think the Fiat Croma vented disc calipers are the same as Uno Turbo, but they may have different carriers to accommodate their slightly bigger discs. Cromas have 14" wheels. It may be worth looking at Cromas in the scrappies.
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Joined: December 21st, 2004, 3:04 am

April 25th, 2008, 6:26 am #7

heard the uno turbo ones will then read somewhere the uno turbo ones also bolt onto the 124, so maybe there are other fiat ones that will bolt right onto the X1/9??

Just thinking out loud... might have to go to the wreckers and try some out.

Roger
South Australia

1980 Series II 1.3 4M X1/9 Uno T conversion underway
1981 Series II 1.5 5M X1/9 Daily driver
Good pads, flex lines and NEW rotors and you can LOCK UP the fronts with the best of them!  And therein lies the biggest problem.

BTW... lowering the front end does increase a STATIC weight BIAS towards the front and greatly assists in preventing lock-up.


My best,



Tony
Black Tooth and me... since 1983!
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Joined: May 8th, 2006, 10:58 am

April 25th, 2008, 7:23 am #8

Doesn't hurt to stick the spare in the front too rather than behind the driver or passenger, as it is in your upside down land.... he he... Or... manual gearbox out of a nissan skyline three litre.. Just fit's with a bit of cardboard either end to stop scratchin the paint... and wow does the car feel better to drive.. so that's about what.. ninety pounds? maybe eighty.. definitely braked betterererer. Yes did that one.. I didn't want to put it in the passenger seat.. was all greasy.. but cheap..
Cheers n beers
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Joined: February 13th, 2004, 3:33 pm

April 25th, 2008, 10:12 am #9

My X has standard calipers up front, and the Fiat 132 calipers at the rear (slightly larger piston). It has Tarox discs and pads all round (drilled and grooved discs at the front and 44 groove at the rear) and stainless braided hoses at each corner. This set up used to be so awesome I could even lock the back wheels up! The difficulty is finding the time to keep the brakes in tip top condition.

While other calipers etc (Whoa?) may not give much greater stopping power (I don't know cos I haven't ordered them yet) I suspect they will be low maintenance, especially for us UK drivers who use their X1/9's all year round. It's the salt and road wash that leads to sticking calipers I think.

By the way, my brakes are shocking until they get warm and then they bite nicely. I'm told that's a trait of racing pads, which is nice if you use your brake pedal a lot, around town for instance. It's bloody scary on the motorway though!!!

Regards,

Mickey
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Joined: April 18th, 2001, 2:41 pm

April 25th, 2008, 2:29 pm #10

I think the Fiat Croma vented disc calipers are the same as Uno Turbo, but they may have different carriers to accommodate their slightly bigger discs. Cromas have 14" wheels. It may be worth looking at Cromas in the scrappies.
The Uno Turbo wheels might be 13" but they have a bit more clearance behind the spokes than the X1/9 wheels seem to have. Most convertees I know have opted for 14" wheels instead as it removes any possibility of the wheel and caliper coming into contact in normal use.
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