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April 2nd, 2012, 6:36 pm #1

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April 2nd, 2012, 6:41 pm #2

Pakistan is a worthless cesspool. It has no hope.

<table cellpadding="10"><tr><td align="left"></td><td width="20"></td><td align="center">"The chief aim of all government is to preserve the freedom of the citizen. His control over his person, his property, his movements, his business, his desires should be restrained only so far as the public welfare imperatively demands. The world is in more danger of being governed too much than too little.

It is the teaching of all history that liberty can only be preserved in small areas. Local self-government is, therefore, indispensable to liberty. A centralized and distant bureaucracy is the worst of all tyranny.

Taxation can justly be levied for no purpose other than to provide revenue for the support of the government. To tax one person, class or section to provide revenue for the benefit of another is none the less robbery because done under the form of law and called taxation."

John W. Davis, Democratic Presidential Candidate, 1924. Davis was one of the greatest trial and appellate lawyers in US history. He also served as the US Ambassador to the UK.
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April 2nd, 2012, 6:46 pm #3

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"Pakistan is a worthless cesspool. It has no hope."

That's not true Provost...it could always recognize what a terrible mistake countries based upon Islam are and become a secular nation and remove all mention of Islam and it's backward fairy tales from it's legal and political system...or it could realize what a stupid mistake they all made in 1947 and attempt to rejoin India (although I doubt the Indians would want to bother with them).

You see Provost, there is always hope!

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</td><td width="300" align="left">"Come out from man foul spirit.
What is thy name?"
And he said unto him,
"Our name is legion, for we are many."
Gospel of Mark, 5 - 8
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</td><td width="300" align="right">Patriotism is your conviction
that your country is
superior to all others because
you were born in it.
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April 2nd, 2012, 7:01 pm #4

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I stand corrected, Coalde. Pakistan could reject everything it stands for, accept liberty, modernity, basic concepts of a market economy and there MIGHT be hope. There problem will remain however that it is populated by worthless, shiftless, lazy and dishonest Pakistanis who despite all this will be supported by expatriate toilet cleaners as a paradise on earth despite the fact that it isn't.

<table cellpadding="10"><tr><td align="left"></td><td width="20"></td><td align="center">"The chief aim of all government is to preserve the freedom of the citizen. His control over his person, his property, his movements, his business, his desires should be restrained only so far as the public welfare imperatively demands. The world is in more danger of being governed too much than too little.

It is the teaching of all history that liberty can only be preserved in small areas. Local self-government is, therefore, indispensable to liberty. A centralized and distant bureaucracy is the worst of all tyranny.

Taxation can justly be levied for no purpose other than to provide revenue for the support of the government. To tax one person, class or section to provide revenue for the benefit of another is none the less robbery because done under the form of law and called taxation."

John W. Davis, Democratic Presidential Candidate, 1924. Davis was one of the greatest trial and appellate lawyers in US history. He also served as the US Ambassador to the UK.
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April 3rd, 2012, 7:06 am #5

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thank you for lame comments... but you seem to forget that you installed the absurd government in the first place...


OPPS

didnt do your homework?.


lazy?...lol

i dont recall any one accusing us of being lazy but i recall a Japanese minister calling american workers as "lazy"


dishonest?

as recall we didnt go to the UN and lie infront of the world claiming iraq had nukes did we?..



economy?

USA economy = FUBAR

liberty?

lol this is a joke at the rate you are degenerating you will be at the same level as USSR was once was



humanity?
We all i know is our soldiers dont go pissing on dead bodies or shoot infants on a rampage.

Pakistan Airforce: The largest distributor of Indian airforce parts in Asia



Pathankot Strike
8 F-86Fs of No 19 Squadron led by Squadron Leader Sajjad Haider struck Pathankot airfield. With carefully positioned dives and selecting each individual aircraft in their protected pens for their strafing attacks, the strike elements completed a textbook operation against Pathankot. Wing Commander M G Tawab, flying one of the two Sabres as tied escorts overhead, counted 14 wrecks burning on the airfield. Among the aircraft destroyed on the ground were nearly all of the IAFs Soviet-supplied Mig-21s till then received, none of which were seen again during the War.


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April 3rd, 2012, 1:13 pm #6

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all this will be supported by expatriate toilet cleaners as a paradise on earth despite the fact that it isn't.
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I wonder who the expatriate toilet cleaner is, LOL!

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April 3rd, 2012, 2:43 pm #7

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Toilet cleaners?.... There are no Pakistani but plenty of Indian..



Pakistan Airforce: The largest distributor of Indian airforce parts in Asia



Pathankot Strike
8 F-86Fs of No 19 Squadron led by Squadron Leader Sajjad Haider struck Pathankot airfield. With carefully positioned dives and selecting each individual aircraft in their protected pens for their strafing attacks, the strike elements completed a textbook operation against Pathankot. Wing Commander M G Tawab, flying one of the two Sabres as tied escorts overhead, counted 14 wrecks burning on the airfield. Among the aircraft destroyed on the ground were nearly all of the IAFs Soviet-supplied Mig-21s till then received, none of which were seen again during the War.


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April 3rd, 2012, 5:19 pm #8

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anything is better then nawaz or zardari..both are sellouts..american asskissers..any pakistan who is against wests is true patriot and they deserve a chance to lead the country..building long range weapons should be priority of next government
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April 4th, 2012, 12:42 am #9

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"thank you for lame comments... but you seem to forget that you installed the absurd government in the first place..."

You see Provost in that comment their is why Pakistan is failing, in fact whenever you see citizens of a country continually blame every issue on someone else you know that nation is headed down the creek faster than raft going over Niagara Falls. I am pretty sure the reason for that is that it seems to indicate that the citizenry has stopped thinking critically for itself, and they have began to believe the "comfortable" lies being told to them by their leaders and do not have the moral courage or steel to face the truth and begin to collectively work toward a better future.

I'd certainly be interested in your opinion on the collective "victim syndrome", and it's impact, that we see in so many nations around the world today.

...and at the very least Prado's opinion on the matter will be as entertaining as it will be misinformed.

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</td><td width="300" align="left">"Come out from man foul spirit.
What is thy name?"
And he said unto him,
"Our name is legion, for we are many."
Gospel of Mark, 5 - 8
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</td><td width="300" align="right">Patriotism is your conviction
that your country is
superior to all others because
you were born in it.
George Bernard Shaw
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April 4th, 2012, 3:05 am #10

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...and at the very least Prado's opinion on the matter will be as entertaining as it will be misinformed***

RE: look who is talking!... a guy who gets owned by me 247..

ok now let me butt rape you here....and show superior i am how stupid and misinform you are.

a) do you confirm that USA had no role in the current government led by Asif Zadari being installed?

confirm yes or no



for are more enlighted infidel posters (very few) the US pressured Musharaf these people back in power by deal known as NRO which essentially waved off all corruption and criminal cases against 8000+ former rulers and politicans. Why it was done US had a struck a deal with these crooks and criminal or Condalesa Rice called them coalition of "moderates" that they would help return them to power. These people in turn would not oppose aggressive US action in the tribal areas which Musharaf was opposing as it would lead to further desabilisation. the thing is musharaf being called puppet as handed over 600 al qaida people to the US including some very top 9-11 planners, even he taught US actions were lunatical. we all know what happens to leaders who oppose the US.

Why is it relevant to pakistan internal situation?, these american installed "leaders" by all Pakistani analysis agree have been have worst governance in pakistan's entire history. Pakistan is on the verge of a fail state thanks to them. Under musharaf pakistan was chugging alone reasonable with 6%+ grown rate 12+ billion foreign exchange rate all major industries growning at a steady rate, and so on.


@Provost and Colade

the solution to Pakistan is proper implimentation of islam and nothing else. the sooner you realise it the better for you



Pakistan Airforce: The largest distributor of Indian airforce parts in Asia



Pathankot Strike
8 F-86Fs of No 19 Squadron led by Squadron Leader Sajjad Haider struck Pathankot airfield. With carefully positioned dives and selecting each individual aircraft in their protected pens for their strafing attacks, the strike elements completed a textbook operation against Pathankot. Wing Commander M G Tawab, flying one of the two Sabres as tied escorts overhead, counted 14 wrecks burning on the airfield. Among the aircraft destroyed on the ground were nearly all of the IAFs Soviet-supplied Mig-21s till then received, none of which were seen again during the War.


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April 4th, 2012, 5:10 am #11

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the solution to Pakistan is proper implimentation of islam

Packistan clearly isn't islamic enough already.




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April 4th, 2012, 5:22 am #12

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Packistan clearly isn't islamic enough already.
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RE: tell me kafir... what is islamic about Pakistan?... apart from it's label.

why cant you piss drinkers think for a change? already you are the biggest indian idiot i ever came accross





Pakistan Airforce: The largest distributor of Indian airforce parts in Asia



Pathankot Strike
8 F-86Fs of No 19 Squadron led by Squadron Leader Sajjad Haider struck Pathankot airfield. With carefully positioned dives and selecting each individual aircraft in their protected pens for their strafing attacks, the strike elements completed a textbook operation against Pathankot. Wing Commander M G Tawab, flying one of the two Sabres as tied escorts overhead, counted 14 wrecks burning on the airfield. Among the aircraft destroyed on the ground were nearly all of the IAFs Soviet-supplied Mig-21s till then received, none of which were seen again during the War.


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April 4th, 2012, 10:34 am #13

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See Provost, what did I tell you? Prado is like my own little wind up toy here on WAFF...you just wind him up and off he goes saying some of the funniest most delusional things you will ever hear!

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</td><td width="300" align="left">"Come out from man foul spirit.
What is thy name?"
And he said unto him,
"Our name is legion, for we are many."
Gospel of Mark, 5 - 8
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</td><td width="300" align="right">Patriotism is your conviction
that your country is
superior to all others because
you were born in it.
George Bernard Shaw
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April 4th, 2012, 10:37 am #14

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See Provost, what did I tell you? Prado is like my own little wind up toy here on WAFF...you just wind him up and off he goes saying some of the funniest most delusional things you will ever hear!
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RE: i take it you admit you are complete jackass and dont know anything about the complex geo strategic games the USA plays...



Pakistan Airforce: The largest distributor of Indian airforce parts in Asia



Pathankot Strike
8 F-86Fs of No 19 Squadron led by Squadron Leader Sajjad Haider struck Pathankot airfield. With carefully positioned dives and selecting each individual aircraft in their protected pens for their strafing attacks, the strike elements completed a textbook operation against Pathankot. Wing Commander M G Tawab, flying one of the two Sabres as tied escorts overhead, counted 14 wrecks burning on the airfield. Among the aircraft destroyed on the ground were nearly all of the IAFs Soviet-supplied Mig-21s till then received, none of which were seen again during the War.


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April 4th, 2012, 11:51 am #15

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"i take it you admit you are complete jackass and dont know anything about the complex geo strategic games the USA plays... "

No Prado, the only thing I admit is that you are a troll and an idiot...as such you are my little wind up doll here on WAFF, someone I can easily manipulate and make to say pretty much anything I please.

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</td><td width="300" align="left">"Come out from man foul spirit.
What is thy name?"
And he said unto him,
"Our name is legion, for we are many."
Gospel of Mark, 5 - 8
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</td><td width="300" align="right">Patriotism is your conviction
that your country is
superior to all others because
you were born in it.
George Bernard Shaw
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April 4th, 2012, 12:19 pm #16

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@colade

you need to know some thing to manupulate me.... a simple question that was asked to you like a true infidel ran away... bcos we all know you hate the truth

now once again answer yes or no


a) do you confirm that USA had no role in the current government led by Asif Zadari being installed?

confirm yes or no


do you want me to translate this in persian for you or not? if you still cant understand....

Pakistan Airforce: The largest distributor of Indian airforce parts in Asia



Pathankot Strike
8 F-86Fs of No 19 Squadron led by Squadron Leader Sajjad Haider struck Pathankot airfield. With carefully positioned dives and selecting each individual aircraft in their protected pens for their strafing attacks, the strike elements completed a textbook operation against Pathankot. Wing Commander M G Tawab, flying one of the two Sabres as tied escorts overhead, counted 14 wrecks burning on the airfield. Among the aircraft destroyed on the ground were nearly all of the IAFs Soviet-supplied Mig-21s till then received, none of which were seen again during the War.


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April 4th, 2012, 5:32 pm #17

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Doesn't have ENOUGH Islam? What the hell does that mean? Where has Islam been implemented that there's a reasonably stable nation? Islam is intolerant of other religions and as has been implemented in Afghanistan, Pakistan, and a host of oothers has brought nothing but poverty, misery and death. Anyone who'd want more opf that is clearly delusional.

<table cellpadding="10"><tr><td align="left"></td><td width="20"></td><td align="center">"The chief aim of all government is to preserve the freedom of the citizen. His control over his person, his property, his movements, his business, his desires should be restrained only so far as the public welfare imperatively demands. The world is in more danger of being governed too much than too little.

It is the teaching of all history that liberty can only be preserved in small areas. Local self-government is, therefore, indispensable to liberty. A centralized and distant bureaucracy is the worst of all tyranny.

Taxation can justly be levied for no purpose other than to provide revenue for the support of the government. To tax one person, class or section to provide revenue for the benefit of another is none the less robbery because done under the form of law and called taxation."

John W. Davis, Democratic Presidential Candidate, 1924. Davis was one of the greatest trial and appellate lawyers in US history. He also served as the US Ambassador to the UK.
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April 4th, 2012, 11:45 pm #18

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WTF?!? More islam is needed for pakiland..?

This isn't islamic enough..?
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And who can forget about this paki islamic party...
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I think pakiland is islamic enough.

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April 5th, 2012, 1:06 am #19

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"a) do you confirm that USA had no role in the current government led by Asif Zadari being installed? "
Elections were held within three weeks after the departure of Musharraf.[105] Zardari vowed to pursue an unpopular campaign against tribal militancy in Pakistan and had the support of the United States.[105][106][107] He claimed he had a London business school degree to satisfy a prerequisite for the presidency, but his party did not produce a certificate.[108] He was endorsed by the PPP and the Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) for the presidency.[109] The PML-N nominated former justice Saeed-uz-Zaman Siddiqui, while the PML-Q put forth Mushahid Hussain Sayed.[110][111] Zardari won a majority in the electoral college with 481 of 702 votes.[election 1][105][111][112][113] He was elected President on 6 September 2008.[election 2][114]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asif_Ali_Z ... Presidency
So what you are saying Prado is that most Pakistani lawmakers are cheap and corrupt prostitutes, as they elected him....
Mr. Zardari is expected to secure a comfortable victory in Saturday's presidential election from Pakistani lawmakers who vote in an electoral college. (There is no general election.) The other candidates are a retired judge, Saeeduz Zaman Siddique, and Mushahid Hussain, a leader of a party that supported Mr. Musharraf.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122058073564902483.html
...now going through all that, I didn't see any reference to Pakistani electoral college votes or vetoes by the US Ambassador to Pakistan, the US President or any US citizen. But please enlighten me if I missed something. And since these cheap prostitutes...err, Pakistani lawmakers are elected in elections by a popular vote of the Pakistani people, you are in effect accusing all Pakistani's of being ignorant, self-serving and unpatriotic.

Now beyond me giving a civics lesson in Pakistani electoral procedure to a heroic Pakistani...who instead of staying in his country and attempting to make it a better place, ran off for the exciting and lucrative life of an Arab toilet cleaner (Tell me Prado, can you tell when your Arab masters haven't been following that no pork silliness of Islam?), let me also point out to you why your question is wholly irrelevant...

1) Pakistan has been knowingly harboring wanted terrorists since somewhere around September 12th, 2001, and OBL in particular since early 2002, long before Mr. Zardari got anywhere near the Presidential Palace.
2) Everyone older than 10 knows that the real power in Pakistan lies with the wholly unelected Armed Forces and in particular the ISI.

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</td><td width="300" align="left">"Come out from man foul spirit.
What is thy name?"
And he said unto him,
"Our name is legion, for we are many."
Gospel of Mark, 5 - 8
</td><td width="5"></td><td align="center"><center>
</td><td width="300" align="right">Patriotism is your conviction
that your country is
superior to all others because
you were born in it.
George Bernard Shaw
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April 7th, 2012, 6:04 pm #20

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No Prado, the only thing I admit is that you are a troll and an idiot...as such you are my little wind up doll here on WAFF, someone I can easily manipulate and make to say pretty much anything I please.
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I doubt Prado will ever admit the truth. I'll give you a cookie if you can make him admit that Pakistani is totally fvcked up.



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