Illegal Boundary Peak Access Road?

Illegal Boundary Peak Access Road?

roger
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August 8th, 2000, 6:02 pm #1

I am finally getting serious about my AZ-NV-CA September expedition.

After reading all the trip reports, I am beginning to wonder if anybody has had an uneventful climb of Boundary.

The Hiking Las Vegas site notes that there route to the access route listed in most guidebooks is illegal. For $3 they will tell me the right way. I of course am buying it. Does anybody have any insight?

http://www.hikinglasvegas.com/boundary_peak.htm

Even the frequent Forum posters Charlie and Diane Wingers in their new book "Highpoint Adventures" report that Diane got lost and wound up spending the night on the mountain even as rescuers were called in to hunt for her.

http://www.mindspring.com/~wingpeople/HPBook.htm

Everybody reports getting off on the wrong trails and being terrified of the scree/boulders.

I had hoped to take along my pet golden retriever but the sage brush doesn't sound like it would be too good.

It would seem that Boundary has the worst rep of all non-technical hike ups.

Has anybody had a good experience on Boundary? Would my time be better spent at the Bellagio?
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roger
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August 8th, 2000, 6:15 pm #2

After making the initial post, I discovered that Diane's post about being stranded on Boundary is on the Los Angeles Sierra Club site:

http://www.angeles.sierraclub.org/dps/a ... s00592.htm
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snoozer
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August 8th, 2000, 6:24 pm #3

I am finally getting serious about my AZ-NV-CA September expedition.

After reading all the trip reports, I am beginning to wonder if anybody has had an uneventful climb of Boundary.

The Hiking Las Vegas site notes that there route to the access route listed in most guidebooks is illegal. For $3 they will tell me the right way. I of course am buying it. Does anybody have any insight?

http://www.hikinglasvegas.com/boundary_peak.htm

Even the frequent Forum posters Charlie and Diane Wingers in their new book "Highpoint Adventures" report that Diane got lost and wound up spending the night on the mountain even as rescuers were called in to hunt for her.

http://www.mindspring.com/~wingpeople/HPBook.htm

Everybody reports getting off on the wrong trails and being terrified of the scree/boulders.

I had hoped to take along my pet golden retriever but the sage brush doesn't sound like it would be too good.

It would seem that Boundary has the worst rep of all non-technical hike ups.

Has anybody had a good experience on Boundary? Would my time be better spent at the Bellagio?
the road that they speak of on that web page is very easy to find - it is in the same valley, about 1/2 mile to the north. In fact there are several roads that all lead to the same "canyon road" leading up to the trail head.

We stopped and talked to a guy running a road grader for the state of NV and he told us about the road problems - seems that there has been a tax dispute between a land owner and the sate, so the state stoppoed maintaining the road through her property - and i guess now she has posted it as private - sounds like trouble in paradise to me!

If you look at mapquest you can get a good idea of the local layout. try cutting and pasiting this link:

http://www.mapquest.com/cgi-bin/ia_find ... &map.y=434

the second right turn heading south on 264 from 6 is the one you want. If the 3.00 book has good info it might be worth it - it was a hassle to find the roads - they are all dirt and all unmarked. The locals call it Trail Canyon Road.

have fun
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Steve Gruhn
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August 8th, 2000, 7:09 pm #4

I am finally getting serious about my AZ-NV-CA September expedition.

After reading all the trip reports, I am beginning to wonder if anybody has had an uneventful climb of Boundary.

The Hiking Las Vegas site notes that there route to the access route listed in most guidebooks is illegal. For $3 they will tell me the right way. I of course am buying it. Does anybody have any insight?

http://www.hikinglasvegas.com/boundary_peak.htm

Even the frequent Forum posters Charlie and Diane Wingers in their new book "Highpoint Adventures" report that Diane got lost and wound up spending the night on the mountain even as rescuers were called in to hunt for her.

http://www.mindspring.com/~wingpeople/HPBook.htm

Everybody reports getting off on the wrong trails and being terrified of the scree/boulders.

I had hoped to take along my pet golden retriever but the sage brush doesn't sound like it would be too good.

It would seem that Boundary has the worst rep of all non-technical hike ups.

Has anybody had a good experience on Boundary? Would my time be better spent at the Bellagio?
My experience climbing Boundary Peak in October 1995 was quite good. I did have some difficulty in finding the trailhead in the dark, and wound up sleeping next to the car near a wide spot in the road. The next morning, I could locate myself on a map and found out where I was. In 15 minutes I was at the trailhead. The climb wasn't bad, although some folks may have been concerned about the frost in the morning. The climb up to the pass was uneventful. I did it in shorts and I was having some fatigue problems due to my lack of sleep the previous two nights (one on the plane to Ontario, California, and one next to the car after giving up trying to find the trailhead in the dark) and possibly due to altitude problems (I live at 200 feet above sea level). I ended up taking a nap at a windbreak at the pass. Feeling somewhat refreshed, I climbed the ridge to the summit, found John Mitchler's register with a company notepad (at the time, we had the same employer), and descended via a scree slope to the valley floor. The hike out, again, was uneventful. The route was visible throughout the majority of the trip. I did, however, have excellent weather. In the fog, I could see possibly having some difficulties.
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Adam Roddy
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August 8th, 2000, 7:57 pm #5

I am finally getting serious about my AZ-NV-CA September expedition.

After reading all the trip reports, I am beginning to wonder if anybody has had an uneventful climb of Boundary.

The Hiking Las Vegas site notes that there route to the access route listed in most guidebooks is illegal. For $3 they will tell me the right way. I of course am buying it. Does anybody have any insight?

http://www.hikinglasvegas.com/boundary_peak.htm

Even the frequent Forum posters Charlie and Diane Wingers in their new book "Highpoint Adventures" report that Diane got lost and wound up spending the night on the mountain even as rescuers were called in to hunt for her.

http://www.mindspring.com/~wingpeople/HPBook.htm

Everybody reports getting off on the wrong trails and being terrified of the scree/boulders.

I had hoped to take along my pet golden retriever but the sage brush doesn't sound like it would be too good.

It would seem that Boundary has the worst rep of all non-technical hike ups.

Has anybody had a good experience on Boundary? Would my time be better spent at the Bellagio?
In Paul Zumwalt's "Fifty State Summits" edition 4-b, he gives the following (paraphrased) description of the new route:
From the juntion of NV-264 and NV-773 (actually just south of there I think), drive SW on a dirt road maintained by Esmerelda County. At 1.9 mi, go through a 4-way intersection, at 2.4 mi, go through a 3 way intersection. At 10.6 mi pass a side road to B&B mine. At 12.3 mi, meet Trail Canyon Road and continue west on it to the end at 15.6 mi.

This road worked just fine for me. When I got to the end of the road, a cop came around looking at my bike and asking me stuff about my party size and stuff. I though I was in trouble. It turns out he was keeping track of the number of visitors to the area, because he is afraid of a bill that Clinton is trying to pass that will turn National Forest land into Wilderness Areas, thus cutting off road access to the area. So anyway, there was no problem for me using that road. As for that bill, I dont know too much about it, maybe some of you more politically-minded people are more informed.

The hike itself was just sagebrush followed by scree, and it took me a longer that I expected because I went up the scree instead of going to the pass. To be quite honest, I can't understand how anyone could get lost as long as they have a map. Even if I were blindfolded and spun around a 100 times on the summit, after recovering from my initial dizziness, I would see Montgomery Peak and know exaclty where I am. After that, practically the whole route is visible.

It's hard to explain why this hike sucked so much, I think it's the kind of thing you just need to do to understand. Plus, if you build it up to be really terrible, it may just turn out to be better that you expected.
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roger
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August 8th, 2000, 9:26 pm #6

I am finally getting serious about my AZ-NV-CA September expedition.

After reading all the trip reports, I am beginning to wonder if anybody has had an uneventful climb of Boundary.

The Hiking Las Vegas site notes that there route to the access route listed in most guidebooks is illegal. For $3 they will tell me the right way. I of course am buying it. Does anybody have any insight?

http://www.hikinglasvegas.com/boundary_peak.htm

Even the frequent Forum posters Charlie and Diane Wingers in their new book "Highpoint Adventures" report that Diane got lost and wound up spending the night on the mountain even as rescuers were called in to hunt for her.

http://www.mindspring.com/~wingpeople/HPBook.htm

Everybody reports getting off on the wrong trails and being terrified of the scree/boulders.

I had hoped to take along my pet golden retriever but the sage brush doesn't sound like it would be too good.

It would seem that Boundary has the worst rep of all non-technical hike ups.

Has anybody had a good experience on Boundary? Would my time be better spent at the Bellagio?
I give hikinglasvegas high points for their 6-page brochure and how they marketed it.

I paid the $3 via credit card and within a couple hours got an email with a URL and password for an Acrobat file.

The information is basically what is available elsewhere but with step by step directions of photos at 5 key locations:

1. an overview with Boundary looking taller than Montgomery and an indication for a gully emergency descent,
2. a view of the saddle,
3. the east ridge approach,
4. Montgomery (which it says is easier than it looks)
5. The emergency escape gully down from the East ridge.

There were no maps.

To me it was the $3 just to get some peace of mind (and I am also grateful to the other posts here).

My next question -- recommendations on motels to stay at higher elevations nearby. I saw that Bill had recommended Tonopah (6000 feet).
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HJ
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August 9th, 2000, 1:49 am #7

I am finally getting serious about my AZ-NV-CA September expedition.

After reading all the trip reports, I am beginning to wonder if anybody has had an uneventful climb of Boundary.

The Hiking Las Vegas site notes that there route to the access route listed in most guidebooks is illegal. For $3 they will tell me the right way. I of course am buying it. Does anybody have any insight?

http://www.hikinglasvegas.com/boundary_peak.htm

Even the frequent Forum posters Charlie and Diane Wingers in their new book "Highpoint Adventures" report that Diane got lost and wound up spending the night on the mountain even as rescuers were called in to hunt for her.

http://www.mindspring.com/~wingpeople/HPBook.htm

Everybody reports getting off on the wrong trails and being terrified of the scree/boulders.

I had hoped to take along my pet golden retriever but the sage brush doesn't sound like it would be too good.

It would seem that Boundary has the worst rep of all non-technical hike ups.

Has anybody had a good experience on Boundary? Would my time be better spent at the Bellagio?
Why does the hike up Boundary Peak suck such much? Well, let's see:

1) A terrible access road
2) A poorly marked trail in a maze of sagebrush, risking bloody legs if you aren't wearing long pants.
3) Mother of all scree climbs on the upper slope, 2 step up, 1.99999 step back
4) Just to add insult to injury, the summit is not really the summit. A higher peak (Montgomery, less than 1 mile away) stares at your face as you stand on the "peak".

In my opinion, Boundary is one of those peak, which you just drag your ass to the trailhead, go through the dreaded death march, bag the peak and back without any mishaps, check it off your shopping list, and forget about it. Like the previous post said, if you go with low expectations, maybe you will find something nice to say about it.

HJ
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go
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August 9th, 2000, 3:53 pm #8

I am finally getting serious about my AZ-NV-CA September expedition.

After reading all the trip reports, I am beginning to wonder if anybody has had an uneventful climb of Boundary.

The Hiking Las Vegas site notes that there route to the access route listed in most guidebooks is illegal. For $3 they will tell me the right way. I of course am buying it. Does anybody have any insight?

http://www.hikinglasvegas.com/boundary_peak.htm

Even the frequent Forum posters Charlie and Diane Wingers in their new book "Highpoint Adventures" report that Diane got lost and wound up spending the night on the mountain even as rescuers were called in to hunt for her.

http://www.mindspring.com/~wingpeople/HPBook.htm

Everybody reports getting off on the wrong trails and being terrified of the scree/boulders.

I had hoped to take along my pet golden retriever but the sage brush doesn't sound like it would be too good.

It would seem that Boundary has the worst rep of all non-technical hike ups.

Has anybody had a good experience on Boundary? Would my time be better spent at the Bellagio?
our hike on boundry was fairly uneventful and fun. the ride in and out was nerve racking ! the dirt road (off the paved road in the middle of nowhere) is 12 miles to the trailhead. 11.75 miles in the "check engine" light in our rental van came on and the van began to sputter and belch white smoke out the exhust. the head gasket had blown ! we summited the next day and prayed the van would make it back out to the paved road, and it did where upon we celebrated. we then limped back to calif to do mt. whitney. as i told my hiking partners (sleepy and clint e.) sometimes getting to the trailhead is more of an adventure then the actual hike.
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Stuart
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August 9th, 2000, 6:48 pm #9

I am finally getting serious about my AZ-NV-CA September expedition.

After reading all the trip reports, I am beginning to wonder if anybody has had an uneventful climb of Boundary.

The Hiking Las Vegas site notes that there route to the access route listed in most guidebooks is illegal. For $3 they will tell me the right way. I of course am buying it. Does anybody have any insight?

http://www.hikinglasvegas.com/boundary_peak.htm

Even the frequent Forum posters Charlie and Diane Wingers in their new book "Highpoint Adventures" report that Diane got lost and wound up spending the night on the mountain even as rescuers were called in to hunt for her.

http://www.mindspring.com/~wingpeople/HPBook.htm

Everybody reports getting off on the wrong trails and being terrified of the scree/boulders.

I had hoped to take along my pet golden retriever but the sage brush doesn't sound like it would be too good.

It would seem that Boundary has the worst rep of all non-technical hike ups.

Has anybody had a good experience on Boundary? Would my time be better spent at the Bellagio?
I did the hike over Labor Day weekend 1997. I started on the Nevada entrance side, but one road was flooded and other road had a gate and some threatening sign. I then went to the California side. The road was a little overgrown with shrubery, but I got the little rent car up to just past Queen Mine. I had a tent and spent the night there. The next day a group came around the corner and were a little embarrassed to have left their jeep lower than my rent car. The trip up was uneventful, but I got a little off course by trying to take a shortcut on the way down and ended up going around the final ridge on the way back to the car. I do not recall sagebrush being a problem.
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jeff combs
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August 10th, 2000, 12:24 am #10

I am finally getting serious about my AZ-NV-CA September expedition.

After reading all the trip reports, I am beginning to wonder if anybody has had an uneventful climb of Boundary.

The Hiking Las Vegas site notes that there route to the access route listed in most guidebooks is illegal. For $3 they will tell me the right way. I of course am buying it. Does anybody have any insight?

http://www.hikinglasvegas.com/boundary_peak.htm

Even the frequent Forum posters Charlie and Diane Wingers in their new book "Highpoint Adventures" report that Diane got lost and wound up spending the night on the mountain even as rescuers were called in to hunt for her.

http://www.mindspring.com/~wingpeople/HPBook.htm

Everybody reports getting off on the wrong trails and being terrified of the scree/boulders.

I had hoped to take along my pet golden retriever but the sage brush doesn't sound like it would be too good.

It would seem that Boundary has the worst rep of all non-technical hike ups.

Has anybody had a good experience on Boundary? Would my time be better spent at the Bellagio?
that e-mail is a friend of mine. but anyway, yes boundary is a pain in the ass. terribly marked, if marked at all. it took me 3 tries to get it. I think i got it. doable in one day, but very frustrating. access road is not marked and only so so in quality. no plaque at top. I could not find the register. went up for what turned out to be mt montgomery the first time! Good luck. You'll need it.
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