Very tight phimosis cant retract at all worried bout sex

Very tight phimosis cant retract at all worried bout sex

Joined: April 20th, 2012, 4:55 pm

April 20th, 2012, 5:09 pm #1

Hi i'm new on this forum and would like to get some information.
I'm turning 24 and i've never been able to retract my foreskin in all of my life.
I didn't know this had to be done but even after i found out it was just impossible to retract.
I have alot of foreskin that even extent a little beyond the tip.
This area of skin is extremely sensitive, in a way it is like a clitoris on top of a penis lol.

Back to being serious though, this is a picture of a penis that looks almost identical to mine:
As you can see it will be impossible to stretch back even with steroid cream.
Masturbation is fine and i clean underneath my foreskin by spraying water from my showerhose directly into my penis hole to rinse it out.
Almost never see any smegma build up as far as i can see so i am thinking it is clean down there.
Ofcourse i have no way of telling what's really further down there but i am guessing with oral sex it wouldn't be a problem because the skin is covering everything of it.

My main concern is: I have a girlfriend now and we're gonna have sex for the first time.
We're both still virgins and are planning to do it without a condom.
I know there is a pregnancy risk but after alot of talking we decided we wanted our first time to be natural.
However when i think of her on top of me for example, i worry that she will be so tight that it will pull my foreskin back to the point that it will tear.
If i do this with my hands it definitely hurt the further i pull it down.
Then again i don't know how tight she will be or whether it will cause a problem to my penis.
I can also imagen it sliding inside without any real friction and then i won't be having any problems.
Still the only way to find out is to actually have sex but i don't want to dissapoint her on our first time which is a big deal to us both.
Does anyone have any experiance with this problem when the foreskin is super tight and sticks out in a way like this?
And will hard sex become a problem?
Also what else can i do about it besides circumcision because stretching is impossible.
Thanks a lot for your help.
I really rather not see my doctor for this unless i have to.

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April 21st, 2012, 12:00 pm #2

Hi i have a second question which may sound very dumb but i would like to ask it anyway.
I realized i have what is called pinhole phimosis.
I read that this could be less painful during sex than regular phimosis.
Ofcourse i can't find out how much it will hurt without a condom but i would like to know if anyone which the same condition has had sex before and their experiance of it.
I read that using a condom will help keep the foreskin in place but since aventually almost everyone will have natural sex one day or another to start a family i would like to know what it's like without anything on besides lube.

My last question is: I read that some people even managed to stretch all the way from pinhole phimosis even though it took a lot longer or was more difficult.
What i would like to know is: If you keep pulling it forward as in the stretching techniques, and start stretching it on a daily basis obviously i can imagen the skin to become longer and more loose.
What happens when it's all flabby but still can't retracts?
Will i be stuck with a very weird looking penis?
Also for those who are naturally retractable or have manage to stretch to do this yourself, how big is the hole of the skin of your penis?
Is it like 5 inches big enough to go over the top of your head depending on your size ofcourse, all the time?
All i can imagen is having eagplugs gradually getting larger ear holes but when you take them out you have huge holes in your ears that will stay that way.
Sorry for all the many questions, I am just very concerned about sex and about the looks of my penis.
If sex will be fine i will keep it as a pinhole.
But if not then i will have to do something however i don't like the idea of stretching and getting a lot of loose skin if in the end i won't be able to retract still because then my penis will look really weird.
Thank you for the time to read everything.
I appreciate it a lot.
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April 21st, 2012, 1:15 pm #3

Hi i'm new on this forum and would like to get some information.
I'm turning 24 and i've never been able to retract my foreskin in all of my life.
I didn't know this had to be done but even after i found out it was just impossible to retract.
I have alot of foreskin that even extent a little beyond the tip.
This area of skin is extremely sensitive, in a way it is like a clitoris on top of a penis lol.

Back to being serious though, this is a picture of a penis that looks almost identical to mine:
As you can see it will be impossible to stretch back even with steroid cream.
Masturbation is fine and i clean underneath my foreskin by spraying water from my showerhose directly into my penis hole to rinse it out.
Almost never see any smegma build up as far as i can see so i am thinking it is clean down there.
Ofcourse i have no way of telling what's really further down there but i am guessing with oral sex it wouldn't be a problem because the skin is covering everything of it.

My main concern is: I have a girlfriend now and we're gonna have sex for the first time.
We're both still virgins and are planning to do it without a condom.
I know there is a pregnancy risk but after alot of talking we decided we wanted our first time to be natural.
However when i think of her on top of me for example, i worry that she will be so tight that it will pull my foreskin back to the point that it will tear.
If i do this with my hands it definitely hurt the further i pull it down.
Then again i don't know how tight she will be or whether it will cause a problem to my penis.
I can also imagen it sliding inside without any real friction and then i won't be having any problems.
Still the only way to find out is to actually have sex but i don't want to dissapoint her on our first time which is a big deal to us both.
Does anyone have any experiance with this problem when the foreskin is super tight and sticks out in a way like this?
And will hard sex become a problem?
Also what else can i do about it besides circumcision because stretching is impossible.
Thanks a lot for your help.
I really rather not see my doctor for this unless i have to.
So half of the things I usually have to explain, I don't need to.

Oh well.

I must always ask in all seriousness and detail: Why did you not know how the foreskin worked, and how did you "discover" this recently?

You mention the important point - your foreskin is very sensitive. This is exactly what anyone who investigates the foreskin honestly, soon realises. It follows from this, that circumcision removes this sensitive part. Now, having understood these two obvious facts, would you ever contemplate circumcision?

You mention "steroid cream". Had you been reading well through this discussion board before posting, you would not refer to "cream" as such. Your reference "to stretch back even with steroid cream" makes it sound as if you think the steroid has some immediate effect, making the skin more elastic. Well, this is not the case; it is stretching which permits progressive elongation of the skin over time and a topical steroid of the "ultra-potent" variety can - to some extent - accelerate this process.

"Masturbation is fine"! Yes, this understanding is a good foundation. If anything, a non-retractile foreskin facilitates pleasurable masturbation because it "conditions" the stimulus applied to the glans, avoiding excessive friction. It actually follows, that normal intercourse should be just as well controlled and to the same effect.

Unless you cause irritation by using soap or anything similar, you should not be troubled to any significant degree by "smegma"; the method you use to rinse inside is precisely what we advise here.

Again for ("receiving") oral sex, having the foreskin covering is if anything, an advantage as the major difficulty with that, is avoiding contact with teeth.

And now I detect an anomaly here - you refer to "having sex for the first time" and imply that (vaginal) intercourse would be your first experience. This troubles me greatly and not merely because of your apparent premature enthusiasm to become a father. What worries me is the implication that vaginal intercourse is the primary form of mutually enjoyable sex. I wonder just how much you understand about sex and particularly, women's experience of it. And your reference to "hard sex" is a concern - are you just perhaps getting ideas from watching pornography?

I feel that you definitely should not be proposing intercourse until you are thoroughly acquainted with each other's sexual responses, preferences and dislikes. Otherwise your "natural sex" is rather likely to be a substantial disappointment - and particularly for her. The fact that you might proceed to this without knowing how "tight" she is, and how well lubricated, suggests you do not at this point, know any of this. To propose to "learn" all of it on one occasion, while superficially "romantic", is in practice, most implausible; my experience (for what it is worth) suggests that this should be learned progressively over many encounters; weeks or months.

Finally, your implicit connection of doctors and circumcision is indeed prescient.
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April 21st, 2012, 4:20 pm #4

Hi Paul first i would like to thank you for your advice and time for reading my posts.
Someone told me that the foreskin should normally be retracted during sex however i didn't have a girlfriend at the time and since masturbation seemed fine i figured i would leave it as it is until having sex would actually give me trouble.
For the longest time i had been single so it wasn't of any concern to me.
This is still my thought today since i like my penis for as it is.
Aslong as having sex with or without a condom goes fine then i do not feel like stretching to retract the foreskin.
A reason for this is that i am not sure whether or not i could fully retract it since my case is severe.
And because i am worried if i stretch the skin a lot but still won't be able to retract, it might look alot worse with extra skin at the tip with a bigger hole in it.
Sorry if i seem immature or am way off here but i am no expert on this subject whatsoever.
This is simply my thoughts and worries to the ups and downs and all i would like is some information.

I am a virgin as mentioned before and me and my girlfriend are planning to take it slow.
Right now we mostly have only been talking about going further since we only have been kissing but we are both determent to go further by the end of the year.
Ofcourse in time we would do all the foreplay and everything else, however what i meant with 'hard sex' is the actual thrusting.
I know porn movies are fake but there is also a lot of amateur videos online which shows regular normal people having sex and i asked about it to my friends and they told me they liked the more hard thrusting sometimes.
Some of the time the thrusting is slow, sometimes fast.
I am just mainly concerned about the friction and how much of the skin will be pulled back during intercourse.
Ofcourse there is no true way of finding out besides actually finding out but if anyone has some experiances of their own i would gladly listen to it.
Especially because i read that pinhole phimosis hurts less than regular so maybe i do not need to stretch or change at all.
As always i would like to address that me and my girlfriend will take it slow and by all means sex itself is the last thing we're after which is why we have been waiting for so long but we do want to do it aventually.
So that is why i asked.

Ps: i only mentioned the steroid cream because a friend of mine had mentioned it.
He told me if it doesn't retract all the way you can use a cream for it.
At the time i didn't know about stretching excersizes and didn't think toomuch about it.
Looking back now i think his case was more of regular less tight foreskin which the cream helped him retract it with but then again that is just me guessing.
Personally i have never used it nor do i know how much it helps or what effect it really brings.
The main reason i came here is to wonder whether i should start stretching or whether it will work fine without having the foreskin retractable at all since it's a severe case of pinhole and therefor might hurt less than regular phimosis or tight foreskin during sex when me and my girlfriend are both ready for it.

Ultimately i would hope that my penis is conditioned to all mine and my girlfriends needs without any problems as it is.
If not then i will start do whatever i can to put circumcision as a last option resort because i am against it aswel and can't imagen my penis without all the sensitivity my foreskin brings.
Thank you once again for all the help.
It is very much appreciated it and it's great there is a forum out there with helpful people like yourself about a topic that is mostly not discussed.
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April 21st, 2012, 8:24 pm #5

If that is so, leave it alone. Once you've had intercourse, you'll understand better whether this is an option. The tightness should prevent the skin from retracting, so pain really ought not to enter the picture.
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April 21st, 2012, 10:56 pm #6

Hi Paul first i would like to thank you for your advice and time for reading my posts.
Someone told me that the foreskin should normally be retracted during sex however i didn't have a girlfriend at the time and since masturbation seemed fine i figured i would leave it as it is until having sex would actually give me trouble.
For the longest time i had been single so it wasn't of any concern to me.
This is still my thought today since i like my penis for as it is.
Aslong as having sex with or without a condom goes fine then i do not feel like stretching to retract the foreskin.
A reason for this is that i am not sure whether or not i could fully retract it since my case is severe.
And because i am worried if i stretch the skin a lot but still won't be able to retract, it might look alot worse with extra skin at the tip with a bigger hole in it.
Sorry if i seem immature or am way off here but i am no expert on this subject whatsoever.
This is simply my thoughts and worries to the ups and downs and all i would like is some information.

I am a virgin as mentioned before and me and my girlfriend are planning to take it slow.
Right now we mostly have only been talking about going further since we only have been kissing but we are both determent to go further by the end of the year.
Ofcourse in time we would do all the foreplay and everything else, however what i meant with 'hard sex' is the actual thrusting.
I know porn movies are fake but there is also a lot of amateur videos online which shows regular normal people having sex and i asked about it to my friends and they told me they liked the more hard thrusting sometimes.
Some of the time the thrusting is slow, sometimes fast.
I am just mainly concerned about the friction and how much of the skin will be pulled back during intercourse.
Ofcourse there is no true way of finding out besides actually finding out but if anyone has some experiances of their own i would gladly listen to it.
Especially because i read that pinhole phimosis hurts less than regular so maybe i do not need to stretch or change at all.
As always i would like to address that me and my girlfriend will take it slow and by all means sex itself is the last thing we're after which is why we have been waiting for so long but we do want to do it aventually.
So that is why i asked.

Ps: i only mentioned the steroid cream because a friend of mine had mentioned it.
He told me if it doesn't retract all the way you can use a cream for it.
At the time i didn't know about stretching excersizes and didn't think toomuch about it.
Looking back now i think his case was more of regular less tight foreskin which the cream helped him retract it with but then again that is just me guessing.
Personally i have never used it nor do i know how much it helps or what effect it really brings.
The main reason i came here is to wonder whether i should start stretching or whether it will work fine without having the foreskin retractable at all since it's a severe case of pinhole and therefor might hurt less than regular phimosis or tight foreskin during sex when me and my girlfriend are both ready for it.

Ultimately i would hope that my penis is conditioned to all mine and my girlfriends needs without any problems as it is.
If not then i will start do whatever i can to put circumcision as a last option resort because i am against it aswel and can't imagen my penis without all the sensitivity my foreskin brings.
Thank you once again for all the help.
It is very much appreciated it and it's great there is a forum out there with helpful people like yourself about a topic that is mostly not discussed.
I think you missed one of my questions: Why did you not know in the first place, how the foreskin is supposed to work? Where were you before "someone told me" that the foreskin should normally be retracted during sex?

Your concern about stretching resulting in "loose skin" is interesting. The object of stretching is to achieve a foreskin that functions in what most people would consider a "normal" fashion. That is, it covers the glans when flaccid, but permits retraction, including when erect. The reason yours does not, is that it has not during childhood, been required to do so, so it has not been stretched and required to grow (which is what stretching does) to this stage. Now what you are proposing, is that you do not like that appearance of a functional, retractile foreskin. Why?

Your reference to ear piercings (I initially thought you were referring to the phenomenon of long-term wearing of ear-moulds for hearing aids, enlarging the ear canal which is indeed what happens) indicates a clear misunderstanding. No-one (that I know of) normally is born with holes in their ear lobule, there is no "normal" function of such a piercing, to close itself; clearly this has no relevance to your foreskin.

You are correct in that the only issue of pain resulting from a tight foreskin, is when it is not quite tight enough to prevent retraction and there is a risk that with excessively rough and un-lubricated thrusting, the foreskin will be pulled back.

You still appear to have an "issue" with pornography. This is what is really so sad about pornography. You truly believe in "amateur" sites, do you? Let me mention just one point: in real intercourse, it would be virtually impossible to obtain a picture of the penis penetrating the vagina as partners (particularly the woman) are seeking to maximise body contact and selecting positions which achieve this. Since the amount of actual stimulation afforded to the woman by the penis in the vagina is negligible, close contact is the primary way to achieve any clitoral stimulation and even then, few women are able to achieve orgasm from this. It also means that the penis is mostly contained in the vagina, minimising loss of lubrication and "drag" on the foreskin.

This of course, does not by any means however make good theatre.

It is the case than that you do not strictly need to stretch your foreskin and frænulum to facilitate (full) retraction. There certainly are plenty of men - possibly a hundred million worldwide (7 billion people, 3½ billion males, at least 2½ billion have a foreskin, perhaps 3.5% - 1 in every 28 - of these cannot retract) who have such a limitation, mostly never realise it (because discussion of such things are taboo in many societies) but go on to marry, have children and presumably be just as satisfied (or not) as the others. They are certainly no worse off for it, than those who are circumcised, suffering much the same diminution of sensation.

On the other hand, a "normally" functioning foreskin probably does have some advantage, so studying our explanations here in depth is recommended.

You still do not appear to comprehend the concept of circumcision. You refer to it as a "last resort", but a last resort to achieve just what? Why do you think you would need a penis so immune to deliberate trauma; to emulate what you see in pornography? That really is the only "purpose" of circumcision.
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April 22nd, 2012, 12:35 am #7

Before i realized how the foreskin was suppose to work i assumed that everyone who had their glans exposed were circumsized.
I didn't know better at the time and truth be told this subject never really comes up in real life.

I would like to clear up though that i personally think a retractable foreskin looks a lot better than a pinhole penis that i have.
I personally dislike how my penis looks because of it's anteater like shape.
However i am personally scared to start the process of stretching because i do not know how or what the outcome will be.
How much loose skin i will have, how much bigger the hole will be and how it may look if i am unable to fully retract it but have all this stretched skin which would make it look worse than it does already.
Ofcourse this is all based on my mere thoughts of how it would look like after stretching since i haven't seen pictures going from phimosis to full retractable in flaccid state from all angles for example.

I am very well aware that most amateur porn is fake aswel.
But as i mentioned before, friends of mine that are sexually active prefer it rough sometimes.
That is the only reason why i asked because even though i'm not planning on going from 0 to 100 miles per hour in a few seconds i do want to make full use of my penis the way i or my girlfriend wants to.
I was simply worried about the friction and the pulling back of the foreskin through thrusting and how it would affect me less since i'm pinhole phimosis oposite to regular phimosis which i read hurts more.

Lastly i would like to state that i do not want a circumcision at all.
The reason i mentioned it as last resort is, in case i can not function fully the way i am now and stretching despite my best efforts would not grand me full retractable foreskin.
By circumcision i think i meant surgary since there are more minor operations that can be done in the first place.
But ofcourse that would only be a last resort incase stretching itself wouldn't work.

Right now i think i am going to wait until i am going to have sex to see how it goes.
If it doesn't hurt at all then i will most likely keep my penis the way it is.
However if going from severe pinhole phimosis to fully retractable is possible and i would like the looks of it in flaccid and erect state then i will most likely try to achieve that since i do think a fully retractable penis is a lot more attractive than a pinhole one.
I appreciate both your input and it has helped me a lot.
My apologies if i come out as immature or naive, i am just new to this and ask as many questions as possible to get the most information available which you guys presented.
Thank you for that.
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April 22nd, 2012, 5:40 am #8

The process of enlarging the opening or lengthening the frenulum takes time. Going too far would be require complete ignorance of progress. Permanance comes only though the growth of new cells, and that requires that tension be applied for several days. When you begin the process, your skin will be fighting your efforts to make it grow, so that's why we coach you to persist.

My opinion is that you'd be better off if you were to bit the bullet and do it. However, leaving it as it is will not harm you in any fashion and you may like how it serves you.
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April 22nd, 2012, 9:26 am #9

Before i realized how the foreskin was suppose to work i assumed that everyone who had their glans exposed were circumsized.
I didn't know better at the time and truth be told this subject never really comes up in real life.

I would like to clear up though that i personally think a retractable foreskin looks a lot better than a pinhole penis that i have.
I personally dislike how my penis looks because of it's anteater like shape.
However i am personally scared to start the process of stretching because i do not know how or what the outcome will be.
How much loose skin i will have, how much bigger the hole will be and how it may look if i am unable to fully retract it but have all this stretched skin which would make it look worse than it does already.
Ofcourse this is all based on my mere thoughts of how it would look like after stretching since i haven't seen pictures going from phimosis to full retractable in flaccid state from all angles for example.

I am very well aware that most amateur porn is fake aswel.
But as i mentioned before, friends of mine that are sexually active prefer it rough sometimes.
That is the only reason why i asked because even though i'm not planning on going from 0 to 100 miles per hour in a few seconds i do want to make full use of my penis the way i or my girlfriend wants to.
I was simply worried about the friction and the pulling back of the foreskin through thrusting and how it would affect me less since i'm pinhole phimosis oposite to regular phimosis which i read hurts more.

Lastly i would like to state that i do not want a circumcision at all.
The reason i mentioned it as last resort is, in case i can not function fully the way i am now and stretching despite my best efforts would not grand me full retractable foreskin.
By circumcision i think i meant surgary since there are more minor operations that can be done in the first place.
But ofcourse that would only be a last resort incase stretching itself wouldn't work.

Right now i think i am going to wait until i am going to have sex to see how it goes.
If it doesn't hurt at all then i will most likely keep my penis the way it is.
However if going from severe pinhole phimosis to fully retractable is possible and i would like the looks of it in flaccid and erect state then i will most likely try to achieve that since i do think a fully retractable penis is a lot more attractive than a pinhole one.
I appreciate both your input and it has helped me a lot.
My apologies if i come out as immature or naive, i am just new to this and ask as many questions as possible to get the most information available which you guys presented.
Thank you for that.
I generally suggest that if you did not know the mechanics of the foreskin from childhood, you must presumably have had a relatively "sheltered" childhood/ adolescence with no parental instruction (common enough unfortunately), and little or superficial contact with peers (or live in a disturbingly prudish society). Ah well, so be it! (Not your fault, of course)

We get back to the porn! If this truly is your only source of purported "information", then it is perhaps not surprising that you really have no concept of what a normal penis looks like. The term "anteater" is something you have presumably picked up from quite ignorant comments, whether In Real Life or on the 'net but in reality, it is no more nor less than quite a substantial compliment. You should have picked up some clues from the foreskin.org where as best I can determine, all the illustrations on the "33 colour" page are in fact of the same penis, so you can pretty much choose any of them and determine either that you would or would not choose to look like them and make no difference at all.

I suggest in fact you need to pay more attention to acroposthion.com if you wish to assess what a penis should look like (and the page entitled "Foreskin 4play" most elegantly illustrates the stretching exercise for the foreskin opening). But there's the hint which I am trying to convey but seem to be consistently too subtle - a penis should look just like yours and the whole point of the elastic foreskin is that it will look almost exactly the same after stretching - because that's what was supposed to happen as you grew up but you simply failed to complete that phase then and consequently need to do the "catch up" work now. (It follows of course that it would - or should - have been easier to do it then, but there is no magic date after which growth will not occur.)

And indeed the only reasons that stretching would not achieve a fully retractile foreskin - from whatever starting point - would as the more likely be failure to perform the necessary stretching or less probable, if you had some (un-treated) disease of the foreskin. A foreskin that does not retract however, is not a disease (which is why we direct people away from describing it as "phimosis" or "frænulum breve") and nothing in your description suggests any form of disease.

And I can only repeat that circumcision is simply not a "last resort"; it does not "cure" or "fix" anything; it is merely a bizarre form of surgery (more correctly an elective mutilation akin to body piercing and the like) which removes more-or-less two thirds of the penis skin containing a substantial proportion of the sexual sensitivity. That is the sole purpose and aim of the procedure notwithstanding who may perform it and it distresses me that you still do not comprehend this. That would appear to be the most significant aspect of your naïveté.
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April 22nd, 2012, 10:44 pm #10

It is true that i grew up without any parental instructions since my father was never around and my mother never brought it up whether she was unaware to it or not. Then again it wasn't something i could've been in control at.
Further more i lived and still live in a bad neighborhood with not any real close friends due to it hard to find good reliable people so as you said i never superficially found out and the last topic coming to discussion is most likely one such as these.

Back to the porn subject. I didn't mean to offend anyone with the term 'anteater' penis.
I simply read about it online which indeed is a rude way to describe it.
Personally all penises are what they are, simply genitals.
I only mentioned it to make it easier to understand that i prefer a retractable penis over a pinhole one without describing my pros and cons, this way it was more easier to give concept but i didn't mean to offend anyone that has the same condition as i do.

If the flaccid penis would look exacly/almost exactly the same after stretching then i will definitely consider to start the process.
Personally i have been a bit scared as i mentioned before and i have also read other threads on this forum about the 'meatus' or opening being larger than before with someone who wasn't aware of this and didn't like the looks of it afterwards.
That is one of the main reasons i ask so many questions to make sure i make the right decission after gathering as much information i can find possible.
Based on no knowledge but simply common sense, i do assume that the opening would have to become larger since right now mine is about 0,1 inch only big enough to pee with which is impossible to make the head of the penis go through.
And when i think about it without any research so forgive me if i'm wrong but the skin around the penis hole itself doesn't really have any muscles in it so unlike the anus which can go bigger and smaller , the penis hole itself should stay big once it's made big is that correct?
The reason i am double checking is because my only 2 fears is the looks of the penis flaccid after stretching and the functioning of the penis after i stretched wondering whether it will work perfectly or whether the frenelum which to date i have never seen before, might be too short and even despite all the stretching would not bring me the desired results.
All of this is pure speculation based upon my thought and i might be way off here.
I have never had any diseases btw.

Lastly, yes circumcision is not a last option.
But what i meant was that if after stretching i still wouldn't be able to have painless intercourse whether due to elastic skin complications or a small frenelum or whatever could be causing it, then a minor surgery not circumcision itself but one of the others to perhaps make the frenelum longer then that is a last resort option.
Ofcourse if everything is reachable with stretching alone then that is ofcourse the best and most healthy way.
My naivete is simply lack of information on the subject but that is why i am here.
Thank you once again for all the help and for linking me those websites.
I will have it checked out and appreciate everything a lot.
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