you must die like Jesus Christ so you can rise again.

you must die like Jesus Christ so you can rise again.

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April 2nd, 2012, 6:16 am #1

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You must die like Jesus Christ so you can rise again.

04-02-2012

One must die in their flesh be born into God-like image with life ever lasting that when Christ see you face to face. The day of your birth because one must be conceive has a seed of Christ and that why you find so many stories about Jesus planting seed. In Greek the word born has translated wrong that is why you find the word conceive has a possible word for born alone begat and others.



A person must be planted to be born and we are form in the womb of our mothers so why being form the womb of Christ. As the truth states we are form in Christ as we renew our hearts of our mind to the truth otherwise as our heart grows inside the Christ in us. How one dies does not matter but how one lives changes the place one is in Christ I think?



I am not written this not to show how wise I am but how foolish I can be because God did not call the wise person but the unwise to teach Gods love. I am the lowest of all men some even say I am crazy I cannot write where one can easy understand but write the best I can. But the bible was not wrote in today English nor is it easy to understand one must do word studies and others things to understand it.



But after reading it for many years one begins to talk like he was alive in the pages of what was wrote so many years before his time. One must be honest about his inner self one must declared he is that fool to understand it making him wise. One must even tell the truth about his inner feelings even if he was a antichrist even if he does not see he was a lot but some even if its only .01 percent he was against Christ.



God see everything so you mightiest not hide because reads the hearts of all person so nothing that you hide will stay hiding. As one learns the truth they are all ways changing what they understand as truth as my understanding gets sharper I renew my heart to be like Christ. Thank you with love of truth and a holy kiss of Christ unto you from Roy
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April 2nd, 2012, 7:53 am #2

The earth shook, the rocks broke and tombs opened and many men and women who had died came back to life again. They left the cemetery and went into the city and appeared to many people there. - Matt. 27:51-53




 


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<strong>Zombies walked the earth following the crucifixion of the Christ! No Really!</strong>

 


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<strong>After the crucifixion, Supernatural warfare tore apart the Roman Provinces. Zombie hordes attacked Jerusalem in search of the Corpse of the Christ. The Disciples were under Siege as the Undead tore apart the countryside and an unlikely Hero, LAZARUS THE IMMORTAL, emerged to combat the Legion of Death!</strong>

 


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<strong>Then, the Christ self transformed ... into Zombieness, and hence made it so he can make us Live Forever if, and only if, we Eat his Flesh, Drink his Blood and Vow upon to him we accept him as our Zombie Master/Saviour so he can then, and only then, remove from our Soul an Evil Force present in All humans because of a Rib-Woman, once convinced by a Vicious Talking Snake to eat some Fruit from a Magical tree that stood in a Greenery!</strong>

<strong>So it was written......</strong>


<strong>And we celebrate this every year, we call it Easter.</strong>


<strong>The End</strong>
 

with thanks to R.Liefeld/DocS

All You Zombies


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April 2nd, 2012, 8:33 pm #3

God/man or beast of the field/the son of God Jesus

/Christ/my unbelief over my belief in Christ



You must die like Jesus Christ so you can rise again.

04-02-2012

One must die in their flesh be born into God-like image with life ever lasting that when Christ see you face to face. The day of your birth because one must be conceive has a seed of Christ and that why you find so many stories about Jesus planting seed. In Greek the word born has translated wrong that is why you find the word conceive has a possible word for born alone begat and others.



A person must be planted to be born and we are form in the womb of our mothers so why being form the womb of Christ. As the truth states we are form in Christ as we renew our hearts of our mind to the truth otherwise as our heart grows inside the Christ in us. How one dies does not matter but how one lives changes the place one is in Christ I think?



I am not written this not to show how wise I am but how foolish I can be because God did not call the wise person but the unwise to teach Gods love. I am the lowest of all men some even say I am crazy I cannot write where one can easy understand but write the best I can. But the bible was not wrote in today English nor is it easy to understand one must do word studies and others things to understand it.



But after reading it for many years one begins to talk like he was alive in the pages of what was wrote so many years before his time. One must be honest about his inner self one must declared he is that fool to understand it making him wise. One must even tell the truth about his inner feelings even if he was a antichrist even if he does not see he was a lot but some even if its only .01 percent he was against Christ.



God see everything so you mightiest not hide because reads the hearts of all person so nothing that you hide will stay hiding. As one learns the truth they are all ways changing what they understand as truth as my understanding gets sharper I renew my heart to be like Christ. Thank you with love of truth and a holy kiss of Christ unto you from Roy
Here's the problem with most Born Again theology;
Jesus said;
John 3:8
"The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit."

Every one who is born of the Spirit comes and goes like the WIND. You can't see the wind, it's invisible. Look out side, do you see the wind blowing? NO, all you see is the vegetation moving because of the WIND. Angels appear and disappear like Jesus in Luke 24:36

36 And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.
37 But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit.
38 And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts?

I can explain this much more, but if you would like to study how born again happens study quicken and quickeneth and quickening. The process of being born in the Spirit is called Quickening. And I don't think you've been quickened yet. And if you were you could physically manifest yourself on Waikiki Beach for lunch, and go back home in a flash.

Hebrews 13:2
2 Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.

John 5:21
21 For as the Father raiseth up the dead, and quickeneth them; even so the Son quickeneth whom he will.

The Saints who survive the great tribulation, will be quickened and changed in the twinkling of an eye;
1 Corinthians 15:51
Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

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April 2nd, 2012, 11:30 pm #4

God first

thanks Tim

so you not believe in God

will I do in love of God

with love and a holy kiss Roy
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April 2nd, 2012, 11:30 pm #5

Here's the problem with most Born Again theology;
Jesus said;
John 3:8
"The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit."

Every one who is born of the Spirit comes and goes like the WIND. You can't see the wind, it's invisible. Look out side, do you see the wind blowing? NO, all you see is the vegetation moving because of the WIND. Angels appear and disappear like Jesus in Luke 24:36

36 And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.
37 But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit.
38 And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts?

I can explain this much more, but if you would like to study how born again happens study quicken and quickeneth and quickening. The process of being born in the Spirit is called Quickening. And I don't think you've been quickened yet. And if you were you could physically manifest yourself on Waikiki Beach for lunch, and go back home in a flash.

Hebrews 13:2
2 Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.

John 5:21
21 For as the Father raiseth up the dead, and quickeneth them; even so the Son quickeneth whom he will.

The Saints who survive the great tribulation, will be quickened and changed in the twinkling of an eye;
1 Corinthians 15:51
Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

Bro Tim
To be reborn, one must first die. If the rebirth is spiritual, then the preceeding death must be spiritual also.

Such is the great tribulation we much each suffer - our own personal hell. Thankfully that is where the road to heaven begins. That is where we receive our palm leaf and take our rightful place in the procession.


REV 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

REV 7:13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?

REV 7:14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

REV 7:15 Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.

REV 7:16 They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat.

REV 7:17 For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.



Hallelujah!





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April 2nd, 2012, 11:42 pm #6


 

Since the annual z-fest is approaching, let's recap by a few inerrant quotations:

We know that Christianity is true because the Gospel writers, inspired by God who can make no error, recorded the founding events. Hallelujah!

 

On that 'first' Easter morning, who visited the tomb and who were encountered there?


Mark 16 c.70 CE

1 When the Sabbath was over, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, bought spices, so that they might come and anoint Him.
2 Very early on the first day of the week, they came to the tomb when the sun had risen.
3 They were saying to one another, "Who will roll away the stone for us from the entrance of the tomb?"
4 Looking up, they saw that the stone had been rolled away, although it was extremely large.
5 Entering the tomb, they saw a young man sitting at the right, wearing a white robe; and they were amazed.....

Luke 24 c.70-90 CE

1 But on the first day of the week, at early dawn, they (Mary Magdalene and Joanna and Mary the mother of James and also the other women with them - Luke 24:10) came to the tomb bringing the spices which they had prepared.
2 And they found the stone rolled away from the tomb,
3 but when they entered, they did not find the body of the Lord Jesus.
4 While they were perplexed about this, behold, two men suddenly stood near them in dazzling clothing.....

Matthew 28 c.80-100 CE

1 Now after the Sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary came to look at the grave.
2 And behold, a severe earthquake had occurred, for an angel of the Lord descended from heaven and came and rolled away the stone and sat upon it.....

 John 20 c.90-120 CE

1 Now on the first day of the week Mary Magdalene came early to the tomb, while it was still dark, and saw the stone already taken away from the tomb.
2 So she ran and came to Simon Peter and to the other disciple whom Jesus loved.....


11 But Mary was standing outside the tomb weeping; and so, as she wept, she stooped and looked into the tomb
12 and she saw two angels in white sitting, one at the head and one at the feet, where the body of Jesus had been lying.....

 

Since the bible is supposed to be inerrant, Mark, Luke, Matthew and John, who tale about that 'first' Easter morning, should tale exactly the same thing. They don't.  How embarrassing.

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rejected and denied by many, accepted and embraced by few : falsifiability
- it is not what we (think we) know that matters, it is what we can show true that does
as the maxim demands; truth is demonstrably fact and fact is demonstrably true
everything else ... mere BS -


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April 2nd, 2012, 11:53 pm #7

Where did you get that dumb idea?

Do you think God throws His creation in a lake of fire, and then keeps them alive throughout eternity so they will suffer forever?


If you believe that hokey, then maybe you would like to purchase this little bridge. No interest for one full year!






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April 3rd, 2012, 2:12 am #8

God first

thanks Tim

so you not believe in God

will I do in love of God

with love and a holy kiss Roy
so you not believe in God
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I do believe in God, and His Son Jesus as our Lord/Brother/Redeemer.

Do you think I don't believe in God?

Bro Tim
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April 3rd, 2012, 3:56 am #9

God first

thanks Tim

I am just written what I heard you say

because if you point one finger at me how many are pointing at you

with love and a holy kiss Roy
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April 3rd, 2012, 4:15 am #10

To be reborn, one must first die. If the rebirth is spiritual, then the preceeding death must be spiritual also.

Such is the great tribulation we much each suffer - our own personal hell. Thankfully that is where the road to heaven begins. That is where we receive our palm leaf and take our rightful place in the procession.


REV 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

REV 7:13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?

REV 7:14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

REV 7:15 Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.

REV 7:16 They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat.

REV 7:17 For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.



Hallelujah!





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"Error does not become Truth because it is widely accepted; Truth does not become error, even when it stands alone"
Thanks Kristy
God first

thanks Bob

my friend Bob one must be conceive before one can come out of the seed

One must die to the flesh or come out of the seed of Christ

but Revelation 7 has nothing to do with conceiving a Christ seed or planting a Christ seed

Revelation 7 is talking about coming out of the seed of Christ which the second coming of Christ

the return of Christ is our birth

look at the greek words it can be translation Conceive, begot, and born

than think about sex can one made the a Child until someone plants a seed

with love and a holy kiss Roy
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