What is a disciple...one definition

What is a disciple...one definition

Striver
Striver

March 31st, 2010, 7:06 pm #1

Discipleship begins with the individual who has lived through the absolutely necessary stage of 'riotous living, realised it is not the way to go, and decides to get up and head home to his Father's Home...his Source.

He has lived life in the fast lane, his focuss being almost 100% on the acquisition of the material, with a little religion thrown in just in case there is existence after the transition called death.

He has suffered from it and eventually revolted from everything in the Rat Race called Capitalism. He becomes dissatisfied, disgusted, and finds his old life distasteful. He has had all of it he can stand.

For what is a disciple? A disciple is someone who seek a new rhythm, to enter a new field of experience. What he once fancied so desirable and necessary for happiness no longer satisfy him. He is in a transition between the old and new states of being. He is vibrating between a condition of soul and form awareness. He is seeing double.

His spiritual perception grows slowly and surely as the brain become capable of illumination from the soul via the mind. As his Christ within grows, his radius of awareness grows and new fields of knowledge unfold.

The would-be disciple , through this process, becomes aware of his lower nature and begins to realise the extent of his imprisonment in it. The hindrances to achievement and the obstacles to progress are revealed to him and his problem becomes specific. He finds he is confronted by enemies of his own creation.

As perseveres and struggles, surmounts his problems and brings his desires and thoughts under control, the second field of knowledge is revealed, knowledge of the self in the spiritual body, knowledge of the human soul as it expresses itself through the medium of the threefold instrument and awareness of the source of spiritual energy , which is the motivating impulse behind the lower manifestation. Every step of the way has to be carved out by man himself, and there is no short or easy road out of darkness into light.
(a paraphrase of excerpts from a book by a Tibetan Master)
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Joined: July 1st, 2008, 11:52 pm

March 31st, 2010, 9:10 pm #2

Christ is the "NEW ENERGY" to help you understand energy better: Christ RE-DEFINES reality for us

when CHRISTIANS study the Bible they BELIEVE in a new creation but they haven't experienced it yet to the DEEPEST level of their soul, giving them a whole new reality

if they do KNOW CHRIST that deeply, then they understand all things that happen within them and they don't need any book to tell them anything anymore

however, when you no longer need the books you don't fight against them anymore


instead you try to help others grasp them from an INNER VIEW or in your case, an esoteric view

but your view is not esoteric dear Striver....the words you use seem to define esoteric meanings but your view is struggling to change....


you got the disillusionment right: You no longer look at things the way you did when you were in religion but this isn't esoteric


this is DECONSTRUCTION of the exoteric

when you have deconstructed everything you will find that HUMPTY DUMPTY needs to be put back together again

then you will UNDERSTAND esoteric meaning in the Bible:

it doesn't just take things apart, and leave them on the ground for others to see as useless


it is able to PUT THEM TOGETHER in the right way.....even if nobody else gets the NEW PICTURE you see when the puzzle is fixed:
Last edited by Harpazo on March 31st, 2010, 9:15 pm, edited 1 time in total.
every day is a new day to die to the old and live to the newness of life
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JB
JB

April 1st, 2010, 4:26 am #3

"a NEW SELF is given to us to overcome the old one."



Eastern religions think you do it yourself. But as the Gospel of John reveals:

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. 4 In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it...

14 And the WORD BECAME FLESH and DWELT AMONG US, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.

The WORD becomes FLESH when the WORD become the Holy Spirit that divides us within from our fallen Adamic nature. JB
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Joined: October 1st, 2006, 10:04 am

April 1st, 2010, 7:15 am #4



Why would God want to make imperfect 'creations'?

Each 'creation' has the ALL Within.

We have just forgotton that. Come on, use God's Tools.


That is WONDERFUL planning by The Creator, dont'cha think?

Love and LIGHT and Gratitude to The Source - THANKS!
Jackie


Know Thyself
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Joined: April 30th, 2005, 4:27 am

April 1st, 2010, 8:05 am #5


God provides the virgin birth of His spirit within us. When this happens it is refered to as Immanuel, or 'with us is God'.

Matthew 1:23 "Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and bear a Son, and they shall call His name Immanuel," (Isaiah 7:13) which is translated, "God with us." 24 Then Joseph (may he add), being aroused from sleep, did as the angel of the Lord commanded him and took to him his wife, 25 and did not know her till she had brought forth her firstborn Son. And he called His name Yeshua (Salvation of Jehovah). NKJV

The birth of Christ in the bible cloaks this mystery that occurs within us. We don't father this holy spirit, it is given by God. JB
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Joined: October 1st, 2006, 10:04 am

April 1st, 2010, 8:46 am #6

Aaaah. I see. Thank you.

I can certainly go with that IF it means what I think!

Love
Jackie


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