The self righteous and the abomination of homosexualty

The self righteous and the abomination of homosexualty

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April 29th, 2011, 2:00 pm #1

Once again I see at another forum the self righteous discussing this terrible abomination of homosexuality -- IT'S IN THE BIBLE!


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The List of Abominations

These pasages are taken from the Revised Standard Version (RSV) simply because that is the text favored by the Presbyterian Church (USA) and by the individual who prompted me to do this textual, rather than contextual, study. See below for a concordance for other translations.

Abominations to Other Peoples

Genesis 43:32 They served him by himself, and them by themselves, and the Egyptians who ate with him by themselves, because the Egyptians might not eat bread with the Hebrews, for that is an abomination to the Egyptians.

Genesis 46:34 you shall say, 'Your servants have been keepers of cattle from our youth even until now, both we and our fathers,' in order that you may dwell in the land of Goshen; for every shepherd is an abomination to the Egyptians."

Proverbs 13:19 A desire fulfilled is sweet to the soul; but to turn away from evil is an abomination to fools.

Proverbs 29:27 - (2) An unjust man is an abomination to the righteous, but he whose way is straight is an abomination to the wicked.

Dietary Abominations

Leviticus 7:18 If any of the flesh of the sacrifice of his peace offering is eaten on the third day, he who offers it shall not be accepted, neither shall it be credited to him; it shall be an abomination, and he who eats of it shall bear his iniquity.

Leviticus 11:10-19 - (6) "But anything in the seas or the rivers that has not fins and scales, of the swarming creatures in the waters and of the living creatures that are in the waters, is an abomination to you. They shall remain an abomination to you; of their flesh you shall not eat, and their carcasses you shall have in abomination. Everything in the waters that has not fins and scales is an abomination to you."

"And these you shall have in abomination among the birds, they shall not be eaten, they are an abomination: the eagle, the vulture, the osprey, the kite, the falcon according to its kind, every raven according to its kind, the ostrich, the nighthawk, the sea gull, the hawk according to its kind, the owl, the cormorant, the ibis, the water hen, the pelican, the carrion vulture, the stork, the heron according to its kind, the hoopoe, and the bat."

Leviticus 11:20 "All winged insects that go upon all fours are an abomination to you."

Leviticus 11:23 "But all other winged insects which have four feet are an abomination to you."

Leviticus 11:41 "Every swarming thing that swarms upon the earth is an abomination; it shall not be eaten."

Leviticus 11:42 "Whatever goes on its belly, and whatever goes on all fours, or whatever has many feet, all the swarming things that swarm upon the earth, you shall not eat; for they are an abomination."

Leviticus 19:7 "If it is eaten at all on the third day, it is an abomination."

Isaiah 66:17 "Those who sanctify and purify themselves to go into the gardens, following one in the midst, eating swine's flesh and the abomination and mice, shall come to an end together, says the LORD."

Improper Worship/Sacrifice

Deuteronomy 7:25 The graven images of their gods you shall burn with fire; you shall not covet the silver or the gold that is on them, or take it for yourselves, lest you be ensnared by it; for it is an abomination to the LORD your God.

Deuteronomy 17:1 "You shall not sacrifice to the LORD your God an ox or a sheep in which is a blemish, any defect whatever; for that is an abomination to the LORD your God."

Deuteronomy 18:10-12 "When you come into the land which the LORD your God gives you, you shall not learn to follow the abominable practices of those nations. There shall not be found among you any one who burns his son or his daughter as an offering, any one who practices divination, a soothsayer, or an augur, or a sorcerer, or a charmer, or a medium, or a wizard, or a necromancer. For whoever does these things is an abomination to the LORD; and because of these abominable practices the LORD your God is driving them out before you."

Deuteronomy 27:15 "'Cursed be the man who makes a graven or molten image, an abomination to the LORD, a thing made by the hands of a craftsman, and sets it up in secret.'"

1 Kings 11:5 For Solomon went after Ash'toreth the goddess of the Sido'nians, and after Milcom the abomination of the Ammonites. (Foreign god who demanded human sacrifice.)

1 Kings 11:7 - (2) Then Solomon built a high place for Chemosh the abomination of Moab, and for Molech the abomination of the Ammonites, on the mountain east of Jerusalem. (Foreign gods who demanded human sacrifice.)

2 Kings 23:13 - (3) And the king defiled the high places that were east of Jerusalem, to the south of the mount of corruption, which Solomon the king of Israel had built for Ash'toreth the abomination of the Sido'nians, and for Chemosh the abomination of Moab, and for Milcom the abomination of the Ammonites. (Foreign gods who demanded human sacrifice.)

Proverbs 15:8 The sacrifice of the wicked is an abomination to the LORD, but the prayer of the upright is his delight.

Proverbs 21:27 The sacrifice of the wicked is an abomination; how much more when he brings it with evil intent.

Isaiah 1:13 Bring no more vain offerings; incense is an abomination to me. New moon and sabbath and the calling of assemblies--I cannot endure iniquity and solemn assembly.

Isaiah 44:19 No one considers, nor is there knowledge or discernment to say, "Half of it I burned in the fire, I also baked bread on its coals, I roasted flesh and have eaten; and shall I make the residue of it an abomination? Shall I fall down before a block of wood?"

Jeremiah 32:35 They built the high places of Ba'al in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to offer up their sons and daughters to Molech, though I did not command them, nor did it enter into my mind, that they should do this abomination, to cause Judah to sin.

Daniel 11:31 Forces from him shall appear and profane the temple and fortress, and shall take away the continual burnt offering. And they shall set up the abomination that makes desolate.

Daniel 12:11 And from the time that the continual burnt offering is taken away, and the abomination that makes desolate is set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

Divorce/Adultery

Deuteronomy 24:1-4 "When a man takes a wife and marries her, if then she finds no favor in his eyes because he has found some indecency in her, and he writes her a bill of divorce and puts it in her hand and sends her out of his house, and she departs out of his house, and if she goes and becomes another man's wife, and the latter husband dislikes her and writes her a bill of divorce and puts it in her hand and sends her out of his house, or if the latter husband dies, who took her to be his wife, then her former husband, who sent her away, may not take her again to be his wife, after she has been defiled; for that is an abomination before the LORD, and you shall not bring guilt upon the land which the LORD your God gives you for an inheritance."

Ezekiel 22:11 One commits abomination with his neighbor's wife; another lewdly defiles his daughter-in-law; another in you defiles his sister, his father's daughter.

Leviticus 7:21 And if any one touches an unclean thing, whether the uncleanness of man or an unclean beast or any unclean abomination, and then eats of the flesh of the sacrifice of the LORD's peace offerings, that person shall be cut off from his people."

Love of Money

Jeremiah 6:15 "Were they ashamed when they committed abomination? No, they were not at all ashamed; they did not know how to blush. Therefore they shall fall among those who fall; at the time that I punish them, they shall be overthrown," says the LORD. (Greed for unjust gain.)

Jeremiah 8:12 Were they ashamed when they committed abomination? No, they were not at all ashamed; they did not know how to blush. Therefore they shall fall among the fallen; when I punish them, they shall be overthrown, says the LORD. (Greed for unjust gain.)

Luke 16:15: But he said to them, "You are those who justify yourselves before men, but God knows your hearts; for what is exalted among men is an abomination in the sight of God.

Dishonest Trade

Deuteronomy 25:13-16 "You shall not have in your bag two kinds of weights, a large and a small. You shall not have in your house two kinds of measures, a large and a small. A full and just weight you shall have, a full and just measure you shall have; that your days may be prolonged in the land which the LORD your God gives you. For all who do such things, all who act dishonestly, are an abomination to the LORD your God."

Proverbs 11:1 A false balance is an abomination to the LORD, but a just weight is his delight.

Proverbs 20:10 Diverse weights and diverse measures are both alike an abomination to the LORD.

Proverbs 20:23 Diverse weights are an abomination to the LORD, and false scales are not good.

Other Improper Behaviors

Deuteronomy 22:5 "A woman shall not wear anything that pertains to a man, nor shall a man put on a woman's garment; for whoever does these things is an abomination to the LORD your God."

Deuteronomy 23:18 "You shall not bring the hire of a harlot, or the wages of a dog, into the house of the LORD your God in payment for any vow; for both of these are an abomination to the LORD your God."

Judges 20:6 "And I took my concubine and cut her in pieces, and sent her throughout all the country of the inheritance of Israel; for they have committed abomination and wantonness in Israel." (Referring to the rape and murder of the concubine of a Levite who was a guest.)

Proverbs 3:32 for the perverse man is an abomination to the LORD, but the upright are in his confidence.

Proverbs 6:16-19 There are six things which the LORD hates, seven which are an abomination to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that make haste to run to evil, a false witness who breathes out lies, and a man who sows discord among brothers.

Proverbs 11:20 Men of perverse mind are an abomination to the LORD, but those of blameless ways are his delight.

Proverbs 12:22 Lying lips are an abomination to the LORD, but those who act faithfully are his delight.

Proverbs 16:5 Every one who is arrogant is an abomination to the LORD; be assured, he will not go unpunished.

Proverbs 17:15 He who justifies the wicked and he who condemns the righteous are both alike an abomination to the LORD.

Proverbs 28:9 If one turns away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer is an abomination.

Isaiah 41:24 Behold, you are nothing, and your work is naught; an abomination is he who chooses you. (Worshipers of people who set themselves up as gods.)

Malachi 2:11 Judah has been faithless, and abomination has been committed in Israel and in Jerusalem; for Judah has profaned the sanctuary of the LORD, which he loves, and has married the daughter of a foreign god.

Unspecified Wickedness

Proverbs 8:7 for my mouth will utter truth; wickedness is an abomination to my lips.

Proverbs 15:9 The way of the wicked is an abomination to the LORD, but he loves him who pursues righteousness.

Proverbs 15:26 The thoughts of the wicked are an abomination to the LORD, the words of the pure are pleasing to him.

Proverbs 16:12 It is an abomination to kings to do evil, for the throne is established by righteousness.

Proverbs 24:9 The devising of folly is sin, and the scoffer is an abomination to men.

Jeremiah 2:7 And I brought you into a plentiful land to enjoy its fruits and its good things. But when you came in you defiled my land, and made my heritage an abomination.

Ezekiel 18:10-13 "If he begets a son who is a robber, a shedder of blood, who does none of these duties, but eats upon the mountains, defiles his neighbor's wife, oppresses the poor and needy, commits robbery, does not restore the pledge, lifts up his eyes to the idols, commits abomination, lends at interest, and takes increase; shall he then live? He shall not live. He has done all these abominable things; he shall surely die; his blood shall be upon himself."

Revelation 21:27: But nothing unclean shall enter it, nor any one who practices abomination or falsehood, but only those who are written in the Lamb's book of life.

Lying with a Man as with a Woman

Leviticus 18:22 You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.

Leviticus 20:13 If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall be put to death, their blood is upon them.
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April 29th, 2011, 2:19 pm #2

two men should not lie in one bed because they can't bring forth the fruit of the spirit:

it takes a male (spirit) and female (soul) to make the fruit of the spirit:

two spirits or two souls don't bring forth Christ


also the abomination of desolation is that the HOUSE OF GOD (the soul) is left desolate.....doesn't have the fruit of the spirit within it so it can come forth as a NEW MAN, part of the new creation:


more people are spiritual homosexuals than physical


this is much more of a problem in the spiritual reality that WORKS a certain way, by a certain LAW

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April 29th, 2011, 2:31 pm #3

when we see Jesus Christ crucified, we see two thieves with him, crucified with him:

one is taken (the one that discerns him and who he is)


the other is left (he justifies himself)


this separation happens within us when the old man is crucified with Christ, hence Satans kingdom is divided at this point

and Jesus sees satan fall like lightening from heaven which is within us


this LEAVES Jesus and the other man that is taken to become "ONE" new MAN in Paradise

this is why Paul said he "KNEW" a MAN and "knowing" always means UNION


hence it is written, he who is JOINED to the Lord, is ONE SPIRIT........

this is HOW God makes us ONE WILL, ONE SPIRIT with himself


and then.............the other part persecutes the part that is now ONE within us


the other part then becomes part of the messengers that fall to earth as the TAIL of Satan......the end of him

that will have to be PUT UNDER OUR FEET


and this is why it is written, that WE SIT WITH CHRIST till he puts our enemies under our feet.....or makes them his footstool:


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April 29th, 2011, 3:00 pm #4

Well: You should write a entire new dictionary because you seem to put any meaning you like on any word you like.

You could call it the Book of Gobbledegook.
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April 29th, 2011, 3:05 pm #5

two men should not lie in one bed because they can't bring forth the fruit of the spirit:

it takes a male (spirit) and female (soul) to make the fruit of the spirit:

two spirits or two souls don't bring forth Christ


also the abomination of desolation is that the HOUSE OF GOD (the soul) is left desolate.....doesn't have the fruit of the spirit within it so it can come forth as a NEW MAN, part of the new creation:


more people are spiritual homosexuals than physical


this is much more of a problem in the spiritual reality that WORKS a certain way, by a certain LAW
Many that people that condemn the abomination of homosexuality, engage in.

Beams and motes.

Sez the Good, upstanding Christian: "Since I am not a homosexual I am going to take the Old Testament literally in this one instance. But I eat ribs, so forget about the pork thing .. "

and so on ..


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April 29th, 2011, 3:07 pm #6

two men should not lie in one bed because they can't bring forth the fruit of the spirit:

it takes a male (spirit) and female (soul) to make the fruit of the spirit:

two spirits or two souls don't bring forth Christ


also the abomination of desolation is that the HOUSE OF GOD (the soul) is left desolate.....doesn't have the fruit of the spirit within it so it can come forth as a NEW MAN, part of the new creation:


more people are spiritual homosexuals than physical


this is much more of a problem in the spiritual reality that WORKS a certain way, by a certain LAW
Yvonne said: two men should not lie in one bed because they can't bring forth the fruit of the spirit:

it takes a male (spirit) and female (soul) to make the fruit of the spirit:

two spirits or two souls don't bring forth Christ


OK. So what about a single male (spirit) or single female (soul)? Meaning, Christian men and women who are single, never married. Are they doomed because they never found a mate?

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April 29th, 2011, 3:14 pm #7

Many that people that condemn the abomination of homosexuality, engage in.

Beams and motes.

Sez the Good, upstanding Christian: "Since I am not a homosexual I am going to take the Old Testament literally in this one instance. But I eat ribs, so forget about the pork thing .. "

and so on ..


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April 29th, 2011, 3:17 pm #8

Yvonne said: two men should not lie in one bed because they can't bring forth the fruit of the spirit:

it takes a male (spirit) and female (soul) to make the fruit of the spirit:

two spirits or two souls don't bring forth Christ


OK. So what about a single male (spirit) or single female (soul)? Meaning, Christian men and women who are single, never married. Are they doomed because they never found a mate?

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males and females have nothing to do with animal sexuality except that animal sexuality explains HOW NATURE WORKS.............even in the spiritual realm

there are male forces and female forces which is why we have them manifested in nature


but these forces are not necessarily in men or women, meaning a physical male is a spiritual woman when he brings forth the Christ.........and his old spirit or old male has to be JOINED to Christ to become a NEW MAN and save the soul (woman) to make her a new man:

thats why the BIBLE speaks only of a NEW MAN

and not a new woman..............



there are two women but they are both grinding at the wheel (of life)


and one of them is taken because the WORD divides the soul (woman) and spirit (man) when it is put in our heart


this division within us is LIKE CELL DIVISION shows us in nature


the cell splits, turns and joins to another cell to make new cells

this is HOW THINGS WORK within us, within our spirit and soul


to TRANSFORM US FROM ONE SPECIES to another one


thats all
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April 29th, 2011, 3:24 pm #9

Yvonne said: but these forces are not necessarily in men or women, meaning a physical male is a spiritual woman when he brings forth the Christ.........and his old spirit or old male has to be JOINED to Christ to become a NEW MAN and save the soul (woman) to make her a new man:

So if physical gender is irrelevant, explain again what is wrong with homosexuality?

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April 29th, 2011, 3:31 pm #10

I am not their judge....

its pretty obvious they can't have children, but now they can buy them or others can have them for them



spiritual nature must have a male and female to bring forth a NEW being........the fruit of the spirit


and Christ is the first fruits of that new creation:


Im talking spiritually

its just like in nature but I am not talking about what people should do

Im talking about what WORKS spiritually



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