Teenage Atheist Wins Case To Remove Prayer Banner From Public High School

Teenage Atheist Wins Case To Remove Prayer Banner From Public High School

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February 6th, 2012, 4:17 pm #1



Jessica Ahlquist, Teenage Atheist, Wins Case To Remove Prayer Banner From Cranston High School

By Kimberly Winston
Religion News Service

(RNS) A federal judge ruled Wednesday (Jan. 11) in favor of a teenage atheist who sought the removal of a prayer banner from her Rhode Island high school.

Attorneys for Jessica Ahlquist, 16, argued that a banner on display in Cranston High School West's auditorium titled "School Prayer" and addressing "Our Heavenly Father" is a violation of the Constitution and the Supreme Court's 1962 decision banning state-mandated prayer in school.

Lawyers for the school district argued that the banner had hung in the school since the 1960s and was more secular than sacred.

U.S. District Judge Ronald Lagueux disagreed and ruled that the banner should be removed immediately. He also upbraided school officials for holding community meetings about the mural that "at times resembled a religious revival." At one meeting, several school officials read from the Bible or declared their faith. Ahlquist needed a police escort to leave one meeting.

"I am hopeful that this case can be looked back on in the future and encourage others to stand up for their rights as well," Ahlquist said from the Providence office of the American Civil Liberties Union, which represented her.

Ahlquist had to leave Cranston High School West due to threats, but said she is considering a return.

Rob Boston of Americans United for Separation of Church and State hailed the ruling as "a 40-page slam dunk."

Roy Speckhardt, executive director of the American Humanist Association, praised Ahlquist. "She fought for the rights of nonbelievers and religious minorities and is an example for everyone."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/1 ... 05627.html

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February 6th, 2012, 4:59 pm #2

Men go from Bad to worse....that young lad has a soul and that soul will cry out because God

gave it and it belongs to God just like yours. The day is and shall come when that young lad

will cry out because of house the issues of life come to a person on the evil day.You will

to...each of you and believe me, only then will you understand.
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February 6th, 2012, 5:33 pm #3

That "young lad"...
-- Is a girl.

Her name, as noted in the the title and the second paragraph of that article...
Is... Jessica Ahlquist.

The pronouns referencing Jessica are...
-- her
And...
-- she.

And...
Her picture is prominently displayed...
At the very Beginning of the Article.

Definitely...
Jessica is Female.
And, therefore...
-- NOT a "lad".

Soooooo...
How much of that article did you actually look at...?

-PRev1-

President Barrack Hussein Obama

-- Nobel Peace Prize, 2009 --
"War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength."
-- George Orwell, "1984" --


"If you suddenly think Stephen Colbert is truly right wing, that's when I would worry."
-- Neuropsychologist Katherine Rankin.
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February 6th, 2012, 6:34 pm #4

Men go from Bad to worse....that young lad has a soul and that soul will cry out because God

gave it and it belongs to God just like yours. The day is and shall come when that young lad

will cry out because of house the issues of life come to a person on the evil day.You will

to...each of you and believe me, only then will you understand.
Lox said: Men go from Bad to worse....that young lad has a soul and that soul will cry out because God gave it and it belongs to God just like yours.

So you say. Got any evidence to back it up with?

Didn't think so.

And you do realize that "Jessica" is a female name, yes? Tells me how much of the article you really read. (ie: None of it. You read the title and decided you knew all that you needed to know)

Moral of the story: If you want to indoctrinate your kids with religious bullshit and fairy tales, send them to a private Christian school, not a PUBLIC school.

Oh, and you might also read the Constitution. It will (or at least it should) explain why this public school was in the wrong, and why they were found guilty in a court of law.

Another possible moral you might glean from this is: Don't pray in our schools and we won't think in your church.

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"Atheism is an effect of knowledge about religion, not a lack of knowledge. I gave a Bible to my daughter. That's how you make atheists." -- Dave Silverman, President of American Atheists
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February 7th, 2012, 12:30 am #5

That "young lad"...
-- Is a girl.

Her name, as noted in the the title and the second paragraph of that article...
Is... Jessica Ahlquist.

The pronouns referencing Jessica are...
-- her
And...
-- she.

And...
Her picture is prominently displayed...
At the very Beginning of the Article.

Definitely...
Jessica is Female.
And, therefore...
-- NOT a "lad".

Soooooo...
How much of that article did you actually look at...?

-PRev1-

President Barrack Hussein Obama

-- Nobel Peace Prize, 2009 --
"War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength."
-- George Orwell, "1984" --


"If you suddenly think Stephen Colbert is truly right wing, that's when I would worry."
-- Neuropsychologist Katherine Rankin.
I thought maybe it was a secret son of john Lennon and yoko, just by resemblance and all. And being there's only 7 billion people in the world, what are the chances of being wrong?.. And they named him Jessica just as a cover up!

Blahahahahaha


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February 7th, 2012, 2:28 am #6

Lox said: Men go from Bad to worse....that young lad has a soul and that soul will cry out because God gave it and it belongs to God just like yours.

So you say. Got any evidence to back it up with?

Didn't think so.

And you do realize that "Jessica" is a female name, yes? Tells me how much of the article you really read. (ie: None of it. You read the title and decided you knew all that you needed to know)

Moral of the story: If you want to indoctrinate your kids with religious bullshit and fairy tales, send them to a private Christian school, not a PUBLIC school.

Oh, and you might also read the Constitution. It will (or at least it should) explain why this public school was in the wrong, and why they were found guilty in a court of law.

Another possible moral you might glean from this is: Don't pray in our schools and we won't think in your church.

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"Atheism is an effect of knowledge about religion, not a lack of knowledge. I gave a Bible to my daughter. That's how you make atheists." -- Dave Silverman, President of American Atheists
is within the heart not a certain location! But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us. All you education dumbies will never understand unless the Lord has mercy. Your animosity it your worst enemy. The day suddenly comes when you will scream out for help. That God, you show animosity is all you have to turn to.
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February 7th, 2012, 6:12 am #7

Doc said;
Oh, and you might also read the Constitution. It will (or at least it should) explain why this public school was in the wrong, and why they were found guilty in a court of law.

You keep regressing Doc. The foundation is separation of church/religion and state/government.

The purpose being, to assure the state/government has NO control over any church/religion.

To protect the personal rights of every man to worship God as he sees fit without regulation of the state.

It is in by NO means meant to protect the PUBLIC from religions beliefs.

Another reason it is this way Doc, is because if people like you and Seoc and Ice got into office you could tax organized religions out of existence. And the separation of church and state disables that possibility.

I know you don't like the truth Doc, but there it is friend.


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February 7th, 2012, 1:26 pm #8

is within the heart not a certain location! But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us. All you education dumbies will never understand unless the Lord has mercy. Your animosity it your worst enemy. The day suddenly comes when you will scream out for help. That God, you show animosity is all you have to turn to.
Lox said: All you education dumbies[sic] will never understand unless the Lord has mercy.

Actually, I take that as a complement, if somewhat simplistic and contradictory. Ironic, perhaps?

Lox said: Your animosity it your worst enemy. The day suddenly comes when you will scream out for help. That God, you show animosity is all you have to turn to.

What animosity? I have no more animosity towards your imaginary friend than I have for Mother Goose. Both are fictional characters. And to be perfectly honest, Mother Goose is more believable.

I have seen evidence that geese actually exist.


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February 7th, 2012, 1:29 pm #9

Doc said;
Oh, and you might also read the Constitution. It will (or at least it should) explain why this public school was in the wrong, and why they were found guilty in a court of law.

You keep regressing Doc. The foundation is separation of church/religion and state/government.

The purpose being, to assure the state/government has NO control over any church/religion.

To protect the personal rights of every man to worship God as he sees fit without regulation of the state.

It is in by NO means meant to protect the PUBLIC from religions beliefs.

Another reason it is this way Doc, is because if people like you and Seoc and Ice got into office you could tax organized religions out of existence. And the separation of church and state disables that possibility.

I know you don't like the truth Doc, but there it is friend.

Tim said: The purpose being, to assure the state/government has NO control over any church/religion.

To protect the personal rights of every man to worship God as he sees fit without regulation of the state.

It is in by NO means meant to protect the PUBLIC from religions beliefs.


It sure is to protect the public from religious beliefs. I would love to see your kid go to a public school and be inundated with Islamic prayers.

You'd be screaming "separation of church and state" so fast, you'll drop your bottle of liquor.

"Would you sing 'Krishna bless America' or pledge allegiance to 'One nation under Allah'? If not, would that make you unpatriotic?" -- Chris Lee

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"Atheism is an effect of knowledge about religion, not a lack of knowledge. I gave a Bible to my daughter. That's how you make atheists." -- Dave Silverman, President of American Atheists
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February 7th, 2012, 1:40 pm #10

My kingdom is NOT of this world! now what is it you are talking about? the affairs of men? No wonder
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