Jesus is Lord and Son of GOD....

Jesus is Lord and Son of GOD....

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April 11th, 2010, 4:12 am #1

I confess Jesus is the Son of GOD.

The grave/eternity will show me different or not.
Bro Tim in Jesus the Son of GOD Almighty.
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April 11th, 2010, 9:45 am #2


We know from nature that a son is a male offspring from the relationship of a man and a woman. Sometimes traditional beliefs cloud the truth and the truth is the SON of God is a NOT a human being because God is not a human being. The SON of God is the attributes of God that is birthed into everyone's heart when God comes in the day of their visitation. The sign of this birth causes PEACE and GOODWILL.

Luke 2:12 And this will be THE SIGN TO YOU: You will find a Babe wrapped in swaddling cloths, lying in a manger. 13 And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God and saying: 14 Glory to God in the highest, and on earth PEACE, GOODWILL toward men!,

This same sign has accompanied all who have ever lived and witnessed the visitation of God. JB
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April 11th, 2010, 12:11 pm #3

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1 The Sun of "God"

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2 The Solar "Messiah"

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3 Did Jesus Exist?

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4 The Jesus Myth

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People are intrinsically intelligent

When people are put together, they could become a herd
When people turn a herd, they could become sheeple
When people turn sheeple, they could become dumb animals
When people turn dumb animals, they become treated as such





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April 11th, 2010, 1:06 pm #4

We know from nature that a son is a male offspring from the relationship of a man and a woman. Sometimes traditional beliefs cloud the truth and the truth is the SON of God is a NOT a human being because God is not a human being. The SON of God is the attributes of God that is birthed into everyone's heart when God comes in the day of their visitation. The sign of this birth causes PEACE and GOODWILL.

Luke 2:12 And this will be THE SIGN TO YOU: You will find a Babe wrapped in swaddling cloths, lying in a manger. 13 And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God and saying: 14 Glory to God in the highest, and on earth PEACE, GOODWILL toward men!,

This same sign has accompanied all who have ever lived and witnessed the visitation of God. JB
The Son of God took on flesh


Phil 2:5-8
5b b Christ Jesus:
6 Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped,
7 but made himself nothing, taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness.
8 And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself and became obedient to death-- even death on a cross!
(NIV)

REAL Christians who accurately interpret the Scriptures do not manipulate or distort the message of context.

a VISITATION from God can occur at any time and can be for a nation OR even an individual and even NOW FOR YOU JB as you read this response. A VISITATION from God is when God speaks to your heart to reveal were you REALLY stand before Him, if it be as one who is a child of God OR as one that is to be judged.

The Son of God "IN THE FLESH" >>LITERALLY

Luke 19:41-44
41 And when He approached, He saw the city and wept over it,
42 saying, "If you had known in this day, even you, the things which make for peace! But now they have been hidden from your eyes.
43 "For the days shall come upon you when your enemies will throw up a bank before you, and surround you, and hem you in on every side,
44 and will level you to the ground and your children within you, and they will not leave in you one stone upon another, because you did not recognize the time of your VISITATION." (NAS)

The visitation to Israel UNFORTUNATELY found Israel's heart NOT in it's proper place before God, therefore God, being God, had to pronounce judgment upon them.

When God the Son took on flesh as the Bible says.... the union of TWO NATURES into ONE took place. The union of the NATURE of DEITY was join together with the NATURE of HUMANITY (NOT THE NATURE OF "SINFUL" HUMANITY) in the person of Jesus Christ. The is a LITERAL event and NOT SYMBOLISM or ALLEGORY. It is called the HYPOSTATIC UNION and THAT UNION of the two natures is INSEPARABLY UNITED FOREVER. It is WITHOUT MIXTURE OR CONFUSION. In Christ Jesus is ONE who is at the SAME TIME BOTH TRULY GOD and TRULY MAN.

The same God of John 1:1


John 1:1-2
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 He was in the beginning with God.
(NAS)

Consider your visitation JB.








Unless we LOVE the truth, we cannot know it ~~ Pascal

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April 11th, 2010, 1:07 pm #5

I confess Jesus is the Son of GOD.

The grave/eternity will show me different or not.
Bro Tim in Jesus the Son of GOD Almighty.
Unfortunately, Tim refuses to accept what is clear.

Unless we LOVE the truth, we cannot know it ~~ Pascal

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April 11th, 2010, 1:16 pm #6

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1 The Sun of "God"

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2 The Solar "Messiah"

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3 Did Jesus Exist?

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4 The Jesus Myth

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People are intrinsically intelligent

When people are put together, they could become a herd
When people turn a herd, they could become sheeple
When people turn sheeple, they could become dumb animals
When people turn dumb animals, they become treated as such





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The Mazzeroth is in the Bible which are the 12 signs to be sure, and yes, the sun passes through these....and yes all that the myths about the sun are corresponsing to NATURE....


I said it for years.....and so does the Bible, that NATURE is the "SHADOW" of the Spiritual:

you are trying to make it sound like NATURE IS A MYTH however, like the stories about nature and the sun, moon and stars however are irrelevant: Like nature is just out there but meaningless???

the WHOLE PURPOSE of understanding God is to UNDERSTAND and WORK WITHIN THE LAWS OF NATURE......since we can't ESCAPE nature....or do you think you have somehow escaped it?

if one understands the movement of the sun they understand the movement of the CREATOR of the sun much better since the creator makes it all move as the creator wills it to move


we call a man's offspring his son because somewhere in time LANGUAGE became a WAY of communication about nature and all that it includes, visible and invisible.

speaking of nature like it is a myth leaves us with the problem of defining nature by another language: Either way, nature remains the same; We can use scientific language or religious language or mythological language, but still NATURE IS....IS.....IS...it EXISTS in other words


the fact that man is so removed from this fact shows his lack of SUBSTANCE...example, he "THINKS" he is above nature by explaining it away as a myth; how silly really:


so you may say, I wasn't explaining away nature, I was explaining away the Spiritual meaning behind it:

OK.........and this leaves you with what?

so you claim that the meaning behind nature is nothing? not important?

nature is the shadow of reality, the manifestation of reality:

God isnt the SUN, but like the SUN, God the substance behind the SUN gives life to everything in nature


so when you speak of the SON being like the SUN, you are making a true statement but the SON is not the SUN, just the SUBSTANCE behind the SUN, so the sun becomes the shadow of the SON


the moon is the shadow of the People of God who get their LIFE (light) from the sun in FOUR PHASES,.....four levels of recreation:


LIKE nature, we are created and recreated spiritually in four phases, each phase of the MOON revealed by its reflection of the sun:


saying that people worship the creation instead of the creator is true until the person understands the TRUE MEANING of the creation which is the POWER behind it, the substance that RULES over the sun and moon, and even created them and is mirrored by them:


JESUS CHRIST is the SUBSTANCE behind the sun and moon and stars; Jesus Christ is the SPIRIT revealed in nature, especially the nature of humanity, making GOD manifest in FLESH:


why this is so hard to grasp is because the mind of man is definer of concepts, and not the reality behind the concept:

men can grasp a concept while ignoring the reality behind it because of the way their brain is created: THey are LEFT side thinkers and the left side of the brain is ruled by reason over nature.....trying to control nature through ones reasoning:


whereas the true mind is REASONING WITH NATURE, the way God created us to begin with but we lost our way:


this is why WOMEN are naturally more spiritual than men because their brain is more unified by the corpus collosum corresponding the left (reason) and right (intuition) more equally:


a woman FEELS nature more easily since she brings man into the world: He comes through her body, so she is well aware that there is no concept that will rid her of this duty, while men can sire children and sit in their chairs reading books, while she is in the bed bringing forth the life he is in reality:


nature is the MANIFESTATION of SPIRIT......so the story of nature reflecting the SPIRIT WORLD is called a MYTH, but in reality the myth explains how NATURE WORKS....


man is lawless because he lost the UNION with nature....he "thinks" and therefore he is:

God says not so.......YOU MUST THINK ON WHAT YOU REALLY ARE and not on what you WISH TO BE:

wishing and hoping and wanting to be something other than what you are is delusional


the creator made the creation and the creation wants to be greater than the creator and outshine him in "THINKING" ABOUT his own being above the creation


and so lost his way with nature....tries to subdue nature and ignore nature in all respects even to the point of mocking NATURE as a myth instead of understanding the MYTH to be the explanation of NATURE, the creation of GOD who is the creator of what we see and what we don't see: THE CREATOR OF THE VISIBLE and INVISIBLE


if we understand nature we will understand how GOD MOVES and what he is doing and we will stop destroying nature

It is written that God will DESTROY those who are destroying the earth:

all the chuckles at myths will not stop the creator from doing what he will do....and he moves as he wills in nature....through the MANIFESTATION of the law of nature


now Jehovah of the Bible is able to MOVE ABOVE the nature he created and switch it up, change it, make it new, etc


why is this so strange? Why would the one who created something not be able to change his creation???

it is so amazing to even look at nature and how she works, so why would we be amazed at the SUBSTANCE that rules within nature? or that this could change the very nature that it has power over?

so elohim in the Bible is the gods of nature, while Jehovah is the God above the gods of nature.....he is able to OVERCOME their creation to make all things new


why would Jehovah do this? is he not elohim? Jesus said the first thing we need to know is that elohim, Jehovah, Adoni is ECHAD, is ONE


they work together.....and when JEHOVAH IS BORN IN US, his name is "the salvation of Jehovah", the salvation of GOD ABOVE NATURE....the meaning of Jesus


Jesus is able to transcend nature and in his presence our nature is MADE NEW, is transformed like the SUN transforms the seed into a PLANT and the plant gives us fruit to eat...and the food becomes FUEL of our body to keep us alive etc

so yes, the SUN and moon are the two great lights of the creator but the CREATOR IS THE LIGHT above the SUN and moon, keeping them and the earth interconnected in a way that they benefit the earth.....

and that aint no myth

so when we are transformed like a seed is transformed into a tree, it is JUST NATURE....or natural to God to do these things


if he can do them with a seed and tree or make a human out of a seed and egg,then what is to stop him from making a NEW CREATION, one that we have not yet seen or heard till we do.....see and hear it??


not so strange

a lot stranger to get hung up on doubt about it since all of nature tells us what is possible if we but have eyes to see:
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April 11th, 2010, 1:25 pm #7

Shifting the burden of proof is not an option.



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April 11th, 2010, 1:40 pm #8

The Son of God took on flesh


Phil 2:5-8
5b b Christ Jesus:
6 Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped,
7 but made himself nothing, taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness.
8 And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself and became obedient to death-- even death on a cross!
(NIV)

REAL Christians who accurately interpret the Scriptures do not manipulate or distort the message of context.

a VISITATION from God can occur at any time and can be for a nation OR even an individual and even NOW FOR YOU JB as you read this response. A VISITATION from God is when God speaks to your heart to reveal were you REALLY stand before Him, if it be as one who is a child of God OR as one that is to be judged.

The Son of God "IN THE FLESH" >>LITERALLY

Luke 19:41-44
41 And when He approached, He saw the city and wept over it,
42 saying, "If you had known in this day, even you, the things which make for peace! But now they have been hidden from your eyes.
43 "For the days shall come upon you when your enemies will throw up a bank before you, and surround you, and hem you in on every side,
44 and will level you to the ground and your children within you, and they will not leave in you one stone upon another, because you did not recognize the time of your VISITATION." (NAS)

The visitation to Israel UNFORTUNATELY found Israel's heart NOT in it's proper place before God, therefore God, being God, had to pronounce judgment upon them.

When God the Son took on flesh as the Bible says.... the union of TWO NATURES into ONE took place. The union of the NATURE of DEITY was join together with the NATURE of HUMANITY (NOT THE NATURE OF "SINFUL" HUMANITY) in the person of Jesus Christ. The is a LITERAL event and NOT SYMBOLISM or ALLEGORY. It is called the HYPOSTATIC UNION and THAT UNION of the two natures is INSEPARABLY UNITED FOREVER. It is WITHOUT MIXTURE OR CONFUSION. In Christ Jesus is ONE who is at the SAME TIME BOTH TRULY GOD and TRULY MAN.

The same God of John 1:1


John 1:1-2
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 He was in the beginning with God.
(NAS)

Consider your visitation JB.








Unless we LOVE the truth, we cannot know it ~~ Pascal
the FLESH Jesus took on is OUR FLESH

his flesh was different than ours or he would not have said....


Jhn 6:53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.



Jesus flesh isn't like our flesh, but Jesus in us, is able to transform our flesh to HIS FLESH


a flesh we haven't seen before it happens:



2Cr 4:11 For we which live are alway delivered unto death for Jesus' sake, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in (((our mortal flesh))).


now it is written...


1Jo 4:2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:



the only way these two can be reconcilled is that JESUS flesh is different than our flesh which is already established through the WORD, and...

those WHO DO NOT CONFESS that Jesus IS COME in the flesh, (their own flesh) is of antichrist,

they have not yet experienced the COMING OF JESUS within them


not all flesh is the same....look at what Paul says





1Cr 15:35 ¶ But some [man] will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?


1Cr 15:36 [Thou] fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:


1Cr 15:37 And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body that shall be, but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other [grain]:


1Cr 15:38 But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body.


1Cr 15:39 All flesh [is] not the same flesh: but [there is] one [kind of] flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, [and] another of birds.


1Cr 15:40 [There are] also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial [is] one, and the [glory] of the terrestrial [is] another.


1Cr 15:41 [There is] one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for [one] star differeth from [another] star in glory.


1Cr 15:42 So also [is] the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:


1Cr 15:43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:


1Cr 15:44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.


1Cr 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam [was made] a quickening spirit.
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April 11th, 2010, 1:45 pm #9

Shifting the burden of proof is not an option.



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a yoke laid upon them by the less intelligent.
you are a computer that doesn't have all the programs available


and I am sorry about that....truly

you can't even respond to half of what I say without repeating yourself over and over, ignoring everything but your own voice;

what happened? why are you so defeated?
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April 11th, 2010, 1:47 pm #10

The Son of God took on flesh


Phil 2:5-8
5b b Christ Jesus:
6 Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped,
7 but made himself nothing, taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness.
8 And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself and became obedient to death-- even death on a cross!
(NIV)

REAL Christians who accurately interpret the Scriptures do not manipulate or distort the message of context.

a VISITATION from God can occur at any time and can be for a nation OR even an individual and even NOW FOR YOU JB as you read this response. A VISITATION from God is when God speaks to your heart to reveal were you REALLY stand before Him, if it be as one who is a child of God OR as one that is to be judged.

The Son of God "IN THE FLESH" >>LITERALLY

Luke 19:41-44
41 And when He approached, He saw the city and wept over it,
42 saying, "If you had known in this day, even you, the things which make for peace! But now they have been hidden from your eyes.
43 "For the days shall come upon you when your enemies will throw up a bank before you, and surround you, and hem you in on every side,
44 and will level you to the ground and your children within you, and they will not leave in you one stone upon another, because you did not recognize the time of your VISITATION." (NAS)

The visitation to Israel UNFORTUNATELY found Israel's heart NOT in it's proper place before God, therefore God, being God, had to pronounce judgment upon them.

When God the Son took on flesh as the Bible says.... the union of TWO NATURES into ONE took place. The union of the NATURE of DEITY was join together with the NATURE of HUMANITY (NOT THE NATURE OF "SINFUL" HUMANITY) in the person of Jesus Christ. The is a LITERAL event and NOT SYMBOLISM or ALLEGORY. It is called the HYPOSTATIC UNION and THAT UNION of the two natures is INSEPARABLY UNITED FOREVER. It is WITHOUT MIXTURE OR CONFUSION. In Christ Jesus is ONE who is at the SAME TIME BOTH TRULY GOD and TRULY MAN.

The same God of John 1:1


John 1:1-2
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 He was in the beginning with God.
(NAS)

Consider your visitation JB.








Unless we LOVE the truth, we cannot know it ~~ Pascal
Psalm 8:4 What is man that You are mindful of him,
And the son of man that You visit him?

During the visitation the Word becomes flesh in the children of God. They are born of God.

John 1:12-14
12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become CHILDREN of God, to those who believe in His name: 13 who were born, NOT of blood, NOR of the will of the flesh, NOR of the will of man, BUT OF GOD. 14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.

The story of Jesus is just an allegorical framework that shrouds the mystery of how God restores communion with man. JB 
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