Finding oneself impaled upon the horns of a dilemma

Finding oneself impaled upon the horns of a dilemma

Joined: April 30th, 2005, 4:27 am

July 9th, 2011, 6:01 am #1


Can the Book of Genesis be discredited as a true account of creation - YES.

Can the existence of God be proved wrong - NO.

If GOD's exists then how did creation come about? - UNANSWERED.

If GOD's existence can not be proved then there is a 50/50 chance that Athiests are wrong.

With 50/50 odds of being right or wrong the Athiest has a dilemma: <strong>What happens to an athiest when they die? </strong>JB


 
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Tim
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July 9th, 2011, 6:32 am #2

If GOD's existence can not be proved then there is a 50/50 chance that Athiests are wrong.
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Atheists have 10% science reality and creationists have 90% science reality.

JB its not about winning the debate, we know what we are claiming right?

Its about educating the hard headed towards Father and Son Jesus for Redemption.

I know how you feel about me JB. And that's OK Bro.

The job is to endure what is to come. So help those that don't understand so they may overcome what will happen.

Bro Tim





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July 9th, 2011, 6:36 am #3

Can the Book of Genesis be discredited as a true account of creation - YES.

Can the existence of God be proved wrong - NO.

If GOD's exists then how did creation come about? - UNANSWERED.

If GOD's existence can not be proved then there is a 50/50 chance that Athiests are wrong.

With 50/50 odds of being right or wrong the Athiest has a dilemma: <strong>What happens to an athiest when they die? </strong>JB


 
 

Lemme guess......

 

... erm ..... the 'fractal thinker' in full effect?

 

If for nothing else, these 'fractal thinkers' make for excellent stand-up comedians.

 

                     

                                             


rejected and denied by many, accepted and embraced by few : incontrovertibility
- it is not what we (think we) know that matters, it is what we can show true that does
as the maxim demands; truth is demonstrably fact and fact is demonstrably true
everything else ... mere BS -


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Joined: April 30th, 2005, 4:27 am

July 9th, 2011, 7:20 am #4

If GOD's existence can not be proved then there is a 50/50 chance that Athiests are wrong.
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Atheists have 10% science reality and creationists have 90% science reality.

JB its not about winning the debate, we know what we are claiming right?

Its about educating the hard headed towards Father and Son Jesus for Redemption.

I know how you feel about me JB. And that's OK Bro.

The job is to endure what is to come. So help those that don't understand so they may overcome what will happen.

Bro Tim




You seem to know more about me than I do. Do you have a correct perception? JB
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Joined: April 30th, 2005, 4:27 am

July 9th, 2011, 7:30 am #5

 

Lemme guess......

 

... erm ..... the 'fractal thinker' in full effect?

 

If for nothing else, these 'fractal thinkers' make for excellent stand-up comedians.

 

                     

                                             


rejected and denied by many, accepted and embraced by few : incontrovertibility
- it is not what we (think we) know that matters, it is what we can show true that does
as the maxim demands; truth is demonstrably fact and fact is demonstrably true
everything else ... mere BS -


New!! Improved!! Now With CD-Formula!!


CD: short for inevitability
...will probably be the 99th example of vanity.

That was Ecclesiastes 1:2. Wait 'till you see the next verse. JB
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July 9th, 2011, 8:17 am #6


 

Vanity?

Naw.

I mean .... I'm really quite easy to get along with

.... once you have learned to

... worship me.

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rejected and denied by many, accepted and embraced by few : incontrovertibility
- it is not what we (think we) know that matters, it is what we can show true that does
as the maxim demands; truth is demonstrably fact and fact is demonstrably true
everything else ... mere BS -


New!! Improved!! Now With CD-Formula!!


CD: short for inevitability
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Joined: December 8th, 2003, 1:16 am

July 9th, 2011, 8:17 am #7

Can the Book of Genesis be discredited as a true account of creation - YES.

Can the existence of God be proved wrong - NO.

If GOD's exists then how did creation come about? - UNANSWERED.

If GOD's existence can not be proved then there is a 50/50 chance that Athiests are wrong.

With 50/50 odds of being right or wrong the Athiest has a dilemma: <strong>What happens to an athiest when they die? </strong>JB


 
to know with certainty what happens to us when we die ... so why should we worry about?

-Vince
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July 9th, 2011, 9:09 am #8

Can the Book of Genesis be discredited as a true account of creation - YES.

Can the existence of God be proved wrong - NO.

If GOD's exists then how did creation come about? - UNANSWERED.

If GOD's existence can not be proved then there is a 50/50 chance that Athiests are wrong.

With 50/50 odds of being right or wrong the Athiest has a dilemma: <strong>What happens to an athiest when they die? </strong>JB


 
"What happens to an atheist when they die"?

Exactly the same as happens to all life - they dont.
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July 9th, 2011, 10:02 am #9

to know with certainty what happens to us when we die ... so why should we worry about?

-Vince
There has been a growing boby of evidence from various sources, via some scientists, mediums and personal experience and general happenings, that point to the individual continuing to be, after physical death.

The great difficulty is that we look for evidence from a physical standpoint, and this is reasonable considering that it is the basis for all we know of life.
It does appear though, as with so many things of the physical world, that much of what seems solidy real is actually illusory, in a state of temporary reality. The table you sit at is totally solid (unless junior has been taking woodworking lessons) but it is known that it is not, but consists of millions of small spheres orbiting other small spheres at incredible speeds. Curiously, the view through microscope and telescope is identical. Are we somewhere in between?

Physical 'reality' exists for those on a similar vibration. The planet itself, to the untutored eye, is flat with a sun rising in one direction and falling in the opposite direction.
All of the physical world seems to be vibrating within a fixed range of frequency.

I suggest that this is the preliminary earth experience prior to our entry into a more permanent, enlarged experience. This 'beyond' has been fleetingly recognised by so many, especially those more attuned to finer vibration - poets, artists, composers, mediums, musicians and so on - not forgetting those ignorantly called 'primitives' anf inexplicable individuals known as savants. some can touch 'beyond' at will, others when some personal alignment permits it.

Religions all claim to know of this 'beyond', although growing evidence suggests that perhaps they might have had some inkling in very early times as primitives, but have long snce lost the tenuous link. All religions claim to have the only key to some future 'kingdom', but only if the inquirer blindly accepts some unintelligible formula and shoulders the intellectual burden a set of reason-destroying rules claimed to be divinely authored and delivered.

WE will all discover thr truth - or truths - of it in the fullness of time, but something within the human being 'yearns to find out what lies over the hill'
I began searching at around 8 years of age, driven by some inner prompting that has never weakened. Now, almost 70 years later and after many disparate adventures and experiences and having first to uninstal doctrinal conditioning, then dealing with the barren land of scepticism. I now stand convinced that 'we cannot die' regardless of any belief or none - of any action or none - that we pass instantly from this physical dimension into a 'spiritual' (for want of a better term) one. We remain exactly as we are, intact with all our faculties, knowledge and memories, and after an extremely rigorous self - assessment will automatically gravitate to our earned level.

But, it is no dreamworld and no picnic - you are known to all as you really are warts and all. You are an open book without a secret. The character flaws we keep submerged are the most prominent. Are you ready for such?
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July 9th, 2011, 10:48 am #10

It seems that we're given INKLINGS of life after death ... but no solid knowledge of what happens after death. If we're not given solid knowledge of what happens after death, we can't be held responsible for what happens to us after death either.

What we CAN be held accountable for is how we LIVE our lives. We have plenty of knowledge about life, we have a conscience, we have creative juices, we have a good idea of what is right and wrong (when applied to others, of course -LOL- but also to ourselves, on reflection) ... we have instincts of what it means to love and to be charitable ... and so ...

... we are without excuse when it comes to understanding how to live a good life. It's very simple: do unto others as you would have them do unto us.

If we live our lives well ... it follows that we will have a better after-life too. Certainly, we can't expect to have a better after-life if we live an evil life ... can we?

Live a good life and you don't have to worry about the after-life.

-Vince

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