Finally Paster Jack has admitted it

Finally Paster Jack has admitted it

JVH
Joined: July 20th, 2009, 1:33 pm

September 16th, 2010, 6:07 am #1

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<p align="left">From Jack's blog:
<p align="left"><em>'Christians have faith and evidence, whereas atheists have only blind faith, and as such, it takes a lot more faith to be an atheist than it does to be a Christian!' (aug 10)</em>
<p align="left">Jack is thus conceding atheism surpasses theism, that there IS something greater than theism: atheism.
<p align="left">Kudos. http://revjack.wordpress.com/
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<p align="right">Scientific Creationism: a religious dogma combining massive ignorance with incredible arrogance.

Creationist: 1) one who follows creationism. 2) oblivious to reasoning and logic also known as common sense. 3) incapable of doing math.
4) a true believer. 5) gullible to the extreme. 6) can't add 7) convinced of its righteousness. 8) can't subtract. 9) devoid of introspection.

<p align="left">- fallacious, abductive, inductive, deductive
are the basic modes of reasoning -- when we
fail to discern between them, we are destined
to act accordingly ......


<p align="center">... after all, logic demands explicit contains implicit
so, iff what is explicitly posed is true, then what it
necessarily infers or implies must logically be true
as well - if not, then it is incontrovertibly axiomatic
there is something amiss with the explicitly posed ...


<p align="right">... and such is the excruciating irony of incomprehensibility
& self-refutation; those oblivious of it are indispensably
the experts in applying it, in effect, revealing the exact
opposite of apparent intent thereby granting the courtesy
of instant clarification.

Mice In A Maze-Going In Circles



<p align="left">Ardent believers turn out to be quite useful creatures
because they seem to be some sort of omniscient.
You can therefore always depend on them to tell you
exactly what your thoughts and feelings are
and what your opinions and conduct should be.

Handy.


<p align="center">It is as it is - It goes as it goes
If it doesn't go, that's how it goes
If it isn't, then that's how it is

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September 16th, 2010, 8:35 am #2

What 'evidence' do Christians have and 'evidence' of what?
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JVH
Joined: July 20th, 2009, 1:33 pm

September 16th, 2010, 9:18 am #3

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They have lots of evidence, their problem is that they lack the proof.
<p align="center">--oOo--

Religionists have this one huge, insurmountable problem: they cannot produce their God. That is why religious 'reasoning' will always end up circular - religionists cannot show their main premise to be sound.

The main feature of religious reasoning of a valid and/or sound nature appears to be that it doesn't seem to exist (and since the deity of choice appears of the same nature, the one seems to infer the other).

The main problem religionists face is that explicit contains implicit and the implications of their dogmas (happen to) undermine the explicit doctrine those dogmas depend upon.

Consequently, religionists will prove themselves unable to address it in a reasonable and/or logical manner, if at all.
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<p align="center">So, ecclesial books tale about cosmology and anthropology - what's the big deal here?

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<p align="right">Scientific Creationism: a religious dogma combining massive ignorance with incredible arrogance.

Creationist: 1) one who follows creationism. 2) oblivious to reasoning and logic also known as common sense. 3) incapable of doing math.
4) a true believer. 5) gullible to the extreme. 6) can't add 7) convinced of its righteousness. 8) can't subtract. 9) devoid of introspection.

<p align="left">- fallacious, abductive, inductive, deductive
are the basic modes of reasoning -- when we
fail to discern between them, we are destined
to act accordingly ......

<img alt="[linked image]" src="http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc31 ... hink-1.gif">
<p align="center">... after all, logic demands explicit contains implicit
so, iff what is explicitly posed is true, then what it
necessarily infers or implies must logically be true
as well - if not, then it is incontrovertibly axiomatic
there is something amiss with the explicitly posed ...

<img alt="[linked image]" src="http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc31 ... talk-1.gif">
<p align="right">... and such is the excruciating irony of incomprehensibility
& self-refutation; those oblivious of it are indispensably
the experts in applying it, in effect, revealing the exact
opposite of apparent intent thereby granting the courtesy
of instant clarification.

Mice In A Maze-Going In Circles

<img alt="[linked image]" src="http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc31 ... arch-1.gif">

<p align="left">Ardent believers turn out to be quite useful creatures
because they seem to be some sort of omniscient.
You can therefore always depend on them to tell you
exactly what your thoughts and feelings are
and what your opinions and conduct should be.

Handy.

<img alt="[linked image]" src="http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc31 ... rite-1.gif">
<p align="center">It is as it is - It goes as it goes
If it doesn't go, that's how it goes
If it isn't, then that's how it is

New!! Improved!! Now With T-Formula!!

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September 16th, 2010, 12:38 pm #4

<p align="center">.
<p align="left">From Jack's blog:
<p align="left"><em>'Christians have faith and evidence, whereas atheists have only blind faith, and as such, it takes a lot more faith to be an atheist than it does to be a Christian!' (aug 10)</em>
<p align="left">Jack is thus conceding atheism surpasses theism, that there IS something greater than theism: atheism.
<p align="left">Kudos. http://revjack.wordpress.com/
<p align="left"> 
<p align="left">Brought to you by:

<img alt="punchandjudynews.jpg" src="http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc31 ... dynews.jpg">


<p align="right">Scientific Creationism: a religious dogma combining massive ignorance with incredible arrogance.

Creationist: 1) one who follows creationism. 2) oblivious to reasoning and logic also known as common sense. 3) incapable of doing math.
4) a true believer. 5) gullible to the extreme. 6) can't add 7) convinced of its righteousness. 8) can't subtract. 9) devoid of introspection.

<p align="left">- fallacious, abductive, inductive, deductive
are the basic modes of reasoning -- when we
fail to discern between them, we are destined
to act accordingly ......


<p align="center">... after all, logic demands explicit contains implicit
so, iff what is explicitly posed is true, then what it
necessarily infers or implies must logically be true
as well - if not, then it is incontrovertibly axiomatic
there is something amiss with the explicitly posed ...


<p align="right">... and such is the excruciating irony of incomprehensibility
& self-refutation; those oblivious of it are indispensably
the experts in applying it, in effect, revealing the exact
opposite of apparent intent thereby granting the courtesy
of instant clarification.

Mice In A Maze-Going In Circles



<p align="left">Ardent believers turn out to be quite useful creatures
because they seem to be some sort of omniscient.
You can therefore always depend on them to tell you
exactly what your thoughts and feelings are
and what your opinions and conduct should be.

Handy.


<p align="center">It is as it is - It goes as it goes
If it doesn't go, that's how it goes
If it isn't, then that's how it is

New!! Improved!! Now With T-Formula!!


And you obviously get something out of arguing with him. Maybe you two somehow validate each other in some mutually & simultaneously symbiotic and parasitic relationship. To me, it's simply odd, like "modern day Jerry-Springer-Freak-Show-Odd". But like whatever, to each their own - no real harm is being done to anyone. So it's equally as obvious that I completely don't "get it", either.

If someone can 'splain it to me in simple dumb-ass level terms, I would be most grateful.
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September 16th, 2010, 1:18 pm #5

<p align="center">.
<p align="left">From Jack's blog:
<p align="left"><em>'Christians have faith and evidence, whereas atheists have only blind faith, and as such, it takes a lot more faith to be an atheist than it does to be a Christian!' (aug 10)</em>
<p align="left">Jack is thus conceding atheism surpasses theism, that there IS something greater than theism: atheism.
<p align="left">Kudos. http://revjack.wordpress.com/
<p align="left"> 
<p align="left">Brought to you by:

<img alt="punchandjudynews.jpg" src="http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc31 ... dynews.jpg">


<p align="right">Scientific Creationism: a religious dogma combining massive ignorance with incredible arrogance.

Creationist: 1) one who follows creationism. 2) oblivious to reasoning and logic also known as common sense. 3) incapable of doing math.
4) a true believer. 5) gullible to the extreme. 6) can't add 7) convinced of its righteousness. 8) can't subtract. 9) devoid of introspection.

<p align="left">- fallacious, abductive, inductive, deductive
are the basic modes of reasoning -- when we
fail to discern between them, we are destined
to act accordingly ......


<p align="center">... after all, logic demands explicit contains implicit
so, iff what is explicitly posed is true, then what it
necessarily infers or implies must logically be true
as well - if not, then it is incontrovertibly axiomatic
there is something amiss with the explicitly posed ...


<p align="right">... and such is the excruciating irony of incomprehensibility
& self-refutation; those oblivious of it are indispensably
the experts in applying it, in effect, revealing the exact
opposite of apparent intent thereby granting the courtesy
of instant clarification.

Mice In A Maze-Going In Circles



<p align="left">Ardent believers turn out to be quite useful creatures
because they seem to be some sort of omniscient.
You can therefore always depend on them to tell you
exactly what your thoughts and feelings are
and what your opinions and conduct should be.

Handy.


<p align="center">It is as it is - It goes as it goes
If it doesn't go, that's how it goes
If it isn't, then that's how it is

New!! Improved!! Now With T-Formula!!


So, now...
I've been to Jack's Blog-Spot...
Where...
-- Generalities Abound...
And...
-- Evidence... Doesn't even Exist.

Hoooo-boy...!
I'm not going back over there...
Until I get some Good Boots...
-- And... A Shovel.

-PRev1-

President Barrack Hussein Obama

-- Nobel Peace Prize, 2009 --
"War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength."
-- George Orwell, "1984" --
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Joined: March 4th, 2007, 4:09 pm

September 16th, 2010, 1:45 pm #6

How Else Can I WADE through all that CRAP...???

So, burning the Koran should be encouraged...
And...
-- Defended under the First Amendment right to free speech.
But...
Nasty Atheists...
Exercising THEIR First Amendment Right to Free Speech...
By making negative observations about Jack's lame videos...?
-- It's okay to Censor Them...?

Apparently...
Rights are only defensible...
When Jack agrees with the sentiment being expounded.

-PRev1-

President Barrack Hussein Obama

-- Nobel Peace Prize, 2009 --
"War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength."
-- George Orwell, "1984" --
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September 16th, 2010, 2:09 pm #7

Pope said: So, burning the Koran should be encouraged...
And...
-- Defended under the First Amendment right to free speech.
But...
Nasty Atheists...
Exercising THEIR First Amendment Right to Free Speech...
By making negative observations about Jack's lame videos...?
-- It's okay to Censor Them...?


Yep, do as I say, not as I do.

You know what they say...

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September 16th, 2010, 2:34 pm #8

And you obviously get something out of arguing with him. Maybe you two somehow validate each other in some mutually & simultaneously symbiotic and parasitic relationship. To me, it's simply odd, like "modern day Jerry-Springer-Freak-Show-Odd". But like whatever, to each their own - no real harm is being done to anyone. So it's equally as obvious that I completely don't "get it", either.

If someone can 'splain it to me in simple dumb-ass level terms, I would be most grateful.
I think.

There's a payoff I guess. For me, of late, it was "entertainment". Yeah, low brow, Jerry Springer .. but sometimes mindless is all we have.

With more discussions here, I am far more interested in being here. Although, as luck would have it I've been busier of late.

I did take a peek over yonder, and it's a gong show. Long repetitive threads of insults and demands for evidence. Emphasis on repetitive.

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September 16th, 2010, 2:41 pm #9

Pope said: So, burning the Koran should be encouraged...
And...
-- Defended under the First Amendment right to free speech.
But...
Nasty Atheists...
Exercising THEIR First Amendment Right to Free Speech...
By making negative observations about Jack's lame videos...?
-- It's okay to Censor Them...?


Yep, do as I say, not as I do.

You know what they say...

I can just see a little label like that ... stuck to bottles of juice as a promotion.~ Buy one get a whole group free! (Christians, that is).

-Vince
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September 16th, 2010, 3:42 pm #10

<p align="center">.
<p align="left">From Jack's blog:
<p align="left"><em>'Christians have faith and evidence, whereas atheists have only blind faith, and as such, it takes a lot more faith to be an atheist than it does to be a Christian!' (aug 10)</em>
<p align="left">Jack is thus conceding atheism surpasses theism, that there IS something greater than theism: atheism.
<p align="left">Kudos. http://revjack.wordpress.com/
<p align="left"> 
<p align="left">Brought to you by:

<img alt="punchandjudynews.jpg" src="http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc31 ... dynews.jpg">


<p align="right">Scientific Creationism: a religious dogma combining massive ignorance with incredible arrogance.

Creationist: 1) one who follows creationism. 2) oblivious to reasoning and logic also known as common sense. 3) incapable of doing math.
4) a true believer. 5) gullible to the extreme. 6) can't add 7) convinced of its righteousness. 8) can't subtract. 9) devoid of introspection.

<p align="left">- fallacious, abductive, inductive, deductive
are the basic modes of reasoning -- when we
fail to discern between them, we are destined
to act accordingly ......


<p align="center">... after all, logic demands explicit contains implicit
so, iff what is explicitly posed is true, then what it
necessarily infers or implies must logically be true
as well - if not, then it is incontrovertibly axiomatic
there is something amiss with the explicitly posed ...


<p align="right">... and such is the excruciating irony of incomprehensibility
& self-refutation; those oblivious of it are indispensably
the experts in applying it, in effect, revealing the exact
opposite of apparent intent thereby granting the courtesy
of instant clarification.

Mice In A Maze-Going In Circles



<p align="left">Ardent believers turn out to be quite useful creatures
because they seem to be some sort of omniscient.
You can therefore always depend on them to tell you
exactly what your thoughts and feelings are
and what your opinions and conduct should be.

Handy.


<p align="center">It is as it is - It goes as it goes
If it doesn't go, that's how it goes
If it isn't, then that's how it is

New!! Improved!! Now With T-Formula!!


There's not much there, and what is there is false.

Atheists have no faith.

Christians have no evidence.

Atheists have no evidence, but for no faith, no evidence is required.

Christians have no evidence but faith. And that works. Evidence is not required for faith, in fact, faith is belief in spite of a lack of evidence.

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