we need to strengthen the batting , but who

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September 24th, 2016, 12:10 pm #31

Jonny's best season for Yorkshire in the CC was last season with 1108 runs

Andrew Gale scored 1045 runs in that same season.

How was JB carrying him during that campaign?
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September 24th, 2016, 12:46 pm #32

It's noticeable that you didn't include both players overall average that season which was 92 and 40 respectively. I don't relate to the view that players are entitled to stay, Gale was replaced in one day cricket and in my view its time the same happened in 4 day cricket. You like to use the term 'outsider' and i personally feel you insult the one player who has done more than anybody for this club in Jack Brooks.
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September 24th, 2016, 1:00 pm #33

So, Jocobus,you feel slighted because you've been criticised for saying Gale has let the club down which,in a pejorative statement that, patently, as a double winning captain,is untrue

Pointing out that I used the accurate description 'outsider' to distinguish Yorkshire born as opposed to someone born outside the Broad Acres and trying to perceive some kind of offensiveness within it doesn't wash

Back to the cricket. It would be more constructive to suggest replacements for Gale, were he to go, than to denigrate his efforts and that is why I posted on this thread, looking for suggestions as to who might be of interest should that be the chosen route.
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September 24th, 2016, 1:25 pm #34

Gale this season has let his team down, this is not fiction. What doesn't wash with me is bias towards anybody.
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September 24th, 2016, 1:27 pm #35

What about bias against an individual?
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September 24th, 2016, 1:39 pm #36

So presumably by the same yardstick Leaning has let the team down and should retire?
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September 24th, 2016, 1:50 pm #37

this post started off looking for someone to bolster the batting but then ended up pulling Andrew gale to pieces , there is no one in the side now that could take on the role of captain we all now that Andrew gale as had a bad season you can't hide that fact , I'm sure that if Andrew gale leaves Yorkshire he will be snapped up straight away and do a good job.
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September 24th, 2016, 1:52 pm #38

So presumably by the same yardstick Leaning has let the team down and should retire?
If you want to start next season with Gale and Leaning then that's your call. Leaning could benefit with a loan given his age or he may still be a part of the squad in all formats.
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September 24th, 2016, 2:16 pm #39

There are plenty of possible ways of describing Gale's season which no one would challenge. Serious lengthy underachievement would do. The trouble with the worst attacks on him is precisely that - they are attacks, and their choice of language in the view of many of us, is not what he deserves. As others have said 'letting the side down' has a meaning which is so well known it has become a figure of speech, and it is taken to refer to exactly that area where Andrew has never failed us - in his attitude.

So what do we do? If this was a football club we'd throw some money at he problem, and bring in half a team. Some posters seem to favour that, but it isn't financially possible and it isn't how cricket works. A very small number of good players become available each year. We know we've been in for one of them, so we've probably tried for others. So far, no luck. What sort of overseas provision we might have is subject to the usual uncertainties.

In these circumstances I would probably keep Gale for another year. The argument against that is to be seen in his scores this year. The argument for lies in his captaincy, but also in the possibility of a return to form and above all the absence of alternatives as captain and batsman. If we had signed - say - Borthwick and Davies, it would look very different, or if there were youngsters banging on the door.

That's where I stand on it at present, but plenty of sympathy however for those who want to say thank you but it's time to move on. Not much for anything which does not reflect the thank you however.
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September 24th, 2016, 10:24 pm #40

Talk of retirement for Gale is premature surely.Dont people realise hes 32 not 42.He might struggle to get in the side if not captain but you would have thought he could find another county if he ever could envisage playing for someone else. Hes a similar age to Patterson,Bresnan,Brooks and Plunkett and normally seam bowlers are deemed to not last as long as batsman. Worryingly all the bowlers are over 30 now and wont all be a Sidebottom and play for ever.Bar Fisher is there anyone else challenging?
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