Tom Westley

Tom Westley

Joined: 02 Apr 2014, 09:31

20 Jul 2017, 11:55 #1

will make his debut at The Oval.

Good news for him and us I suppose?
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Joined: 20 Aug 2013, 11:26

20 Jul 2017, 12:20 #2

Yes, very good news for us. No Westley & Cook v us at Scarborough. Just need Amir & Harmer to get injured between now and then and perhaps we may have a slight chance of giving them a decent game in August.

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Joined: 07 Aug 2014, 16:58

20 Jul 2017, 13:47 #3

will make his debut at The Oval.

Good news for him and us I suppose?
Deserves a chance - a genuine number 3 who has continued his form after stepping up to division one. Probably clinched a spot with his ton v South Africa in the "meaningless" Lions game.
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Joined: 04 Jun 2015, 18:32

20 Jul 2017, 15:53 #4

will make his debut at The Oval.

Good news for him and us I suppose?
So do the official selectors actually do anything or does the England management just rely on Cook and Root for their views as to who they think should get a game?

First Ballance, now Westley so will one of Vice skipper Stokes Durham team mates benefit in line?

If so Stoneman has made an error moving to Surrey
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Joined: 07 Sep 2015, 21:28

20 Jul 2017, 16:11 #5

will make his debut at The Oval.

Good news for him and us I suppose?
Good luck to him and if he ends up batting with Cook perhaps he will be dragged along.

With a first class average of 37.44 at the age of 28 my guess is his England career will be fleeting.

If England end up playing Malan as well, and he ends up batting at 8 because of Ali I'll know they have lost the plot.
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Joined: 07 Aug 2014, 16:58

20 Jul 2017, 22:07 #6

will make his debut at The Oval.

Good news for him and us I suppose?
Some impressive conclusion jumping there, Geoff. Maybe see how they get on before judging.
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Joined: 07 Mar 2014, 11:28

21 Jul 2017, 07:11 #7

will make his debut at The Oval.

Good news for him and us I suppose?
If we are judging likely career success by average then Stoneman will never get picked nor would Vaughan or Trescothick have got a go. If you are using averages as a yardstick then trajectory is surely more important than the raw average?
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Joined: 07 Sep 2015, 21:28

21 Jul 2017, 07:16 #8

will make his debut at The Oval.

Good news for him and us I suppose?
If we can't give our opinion before the fact how can we possibly say 'I told you so'

Seems to be anybody but Stoneman.

He obviously can't be a jolly nice chap.
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Joined: 04 Jun 2015, 18:32

21 Jul 2017, 07:26 #9

will make his debut at The Oval.

Good news for him and us I suppose?
At last someone else who has recognised that a career average is not the whole story!

We saw this with Kohler Cadmore with some posters citing his low career average which factors in his first year as a county player when aged 18 or 19 playing for a first division side who were relegated. So to improve his average he should have stayed in the second team until 21 or waited til Worcts were relegated so he faced easier div 2 bowlers!

I agree you should look underneath a career average and consider the year on year averages and see if they show improvement, consistency etc. Someone like Lyth may have a reasonable career average but he has had some extremes in an individual season.

I also think you should either add 5 or take 5 away to allow for the difference between div 1 and div 2 runs.
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Joined: 07 Aug 2014, 16:58

21 Jul 2017, 07:45 #10

will make his debut at The Oval.

Good news for him and us I suppose?
The most important stat is that he's averaging 53 in division one this season and also scored a hundred against South Africa for the Lions. Seems a reasonable pick on that basis. And he's actually a number three.
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