Squad v South Africa

Joined: 07 Aug 2014, 16:58

19 Nov 2015, 12:40 #11

I don't disagree with the selection apart from the omission of Plunkett on South African pitches, particularly when Finn and Wood are absent. Woakes should be in the one day side but not the test squad.

Early guess at the first test XI

Cook
Hales
Compton
Root
Taylor
Stokes
Buttler
Moeen
Broad
Anderson
Footitt

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Joined: 13 Feb 2014, 21:14

19 Nov 2015, 13:00 #12

Have I returned to the past?

Patel? Really?
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Joined: 20 Aug 2013, 11:26

19 Nov 2015, 13:00 #13

I don't disagree with the selection apart from the omission of Plunkett on South African pitches, particularly when Finn and Wood are absent. Woakes should be in the one day side but not the test squad.

Early guess at the first test XI

Cook
Hales
Compton
Root
Taylor
Stokes
Buttler
Moeen
Broad
Anderson
Footitt
Crazy re Plunkett especially with Wood and Finn injured. If they had no intention of picking him for SA on their fast pitches, why trail him around the UAE carrying drinks. He has not played for 2 months, so how can he be worse now than in September.

I think your team Seadog is not far off the mark. Could be very good news for us, if that side plays all next summer as well.
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Joined: 28 Apr 2014, 00:12

19 Nov 2015, 13:11 #14

Having picked Compton & Balance who both hail from south African side of the equator it's maybe a surprise that a place could not also be found for KP.
Well not really I suppose but I would like to have seen it if only for the outbursts from his detractors.
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Joined: 08 Dec 2013, 13:18

19 Nov 2015, 15:49 #15

I'm disappointed for Plunkett: I think he's a better bowler than Woakes or Jordan and he's been dragged around without playing a lot recently so it seems very harsh to leave him out as soon as they tour a country where the surfaces should suit his bowling.

Not too bothered about Rashid as the chance of him playing must have been virtually nil anyway, however I've previously voiced my concerns about the England team wanting to turn him into a one-day specialist and the effect this may have on his game, so if this is another step in that direction it's a concern. Would rather have taken Ansari than Patel if fit too.

Pleasantly surprised by Compton's inclusion; our top order needs more solidity and Compton looks as well-equipped as anyone to provide this. He could open with Cook or bat 3. Glad to see Ballance back too: another option at 3 or he may compete with Taylor for the number 5 slot, which would be my preference. Bell has been poor for two years and I'm not sure his heart is in it any more, I don't think he can have any complaints about his omission.
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Joined: 10 Feb 2014, 19:23

19 Nov 2015, 16:13 #16

Got to feel sorry for Plunkett but it does make me wonder if not playing is more dangerous for a player than being forgotten about out in the middle.

With so many backroom staff I would imagine it's a minefield for a non playing squad player as there are so many judging attitude, approach, positivity,mental approach, interaction with the rest amongst other qualities and any perceived transgression will be discussed endlessly/

I have no knowledge or rumour about this but the decision is so baffling when you look at the type of cricketer he is and the type of pitches they will play on.

It must be very dispiriting for a player and I wonder how well the notification of such players is handled?

Good luck to Gary Ballance on his return and if Samit Patel could let us know his lottery numbers I would be grateful.

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Joined: 07 Sep 2015, 21:28

19 Nov 2015, 19:28 #17

2 little steps forward - Ballance and Compton.
1 Giant leap backwards - Patel

Looking at the bowling I hope that both Anderson and Broad keep fit and that Footitt's found some pace or we are in deep doo-daa.

Can only presume Plunkett is being rested from being rested. My advice, go somewhere nice and sunny, forget about cricket for a bit, and get people to bring you drinks for a change.
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Joined: 04 Jun 2015, 18:32

19 Nov 2015, 21:00 #18

Well Bell already seems to be a better player based on all the cries from Pietersen and co bemoaning his omission.

But it's time to move on and a brave call but the right one.

Usually England look to new players but I am pleased they have gone back to some who have been tried before and they come back stronger having had a first bite of the cherry and then worked on their weaknesses that had been exposed on the higher stage.

Compton and Ballance both have experience of South African conditions.

Patel being picked is just bizarre. Plunkett being omitted can only be explained at a later date when some misdemeanour is revealed. It can't be a decision based on performance so it must be something else. Utter bonkers. If Jordan, Woakes are better fast bowlers on hard fast bouncy tracks then the selectors need their heads looking at.

Rashid better off elsewhere as the Saffers would target him mercilessly and Cook would then not bowl him.

But as a back up spinner he is a better option than Patel, plus his batting is probably better too
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Joined: 27 Mar 2014, 13:24

19 Nov 2015, 23:13 #19

I hope Ballance delivers if called upon, but not convinced this series is right for him.

Yes he has a decent record overall, though the majority of the runs have been against soft seam attacks. He was brutally exposed against better quality last summer.

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Joined: 20 Aug 2013, 11:26

20 Nov 2015, 10:27 #20

Liam has probably been dispensed with because he was spilling the drinks when carrying the tray. His non-selection is certainly not based on his form, as he has not played. Patel will take over the drinks waiter job now.

Ballance will be fine if they pick him in his best position of 5, he is not a nr 3.
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