So I guess it's a relegation scrap now then

Joined: 27 Nov 2013, 11:43

09 Jun 2017, 20:15 #11

Just going off the negativity on here.
As more of a reader than a poster, I do see the site as largely negative in outlook. Calling for the heads of particular players, often for quite random reasons, is quite regular. I do take issue with the underlying suggestion that a dig at the negativity isn't valid is borderline offensive (but it comes from a mod!). The tone really doesn't sit right for me, sorry.

As it stands, day one at Taunton played out even...
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Joined: 03 Sep 2014, 13:34

09 Jun 2017, 20:32 #12

Just going off the negativity on here.
I like it Alex, "We don't post here for fun"!

Could be a strapline for the Forum.
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Joined: 21 Aug 2013, 19:47

09 Jun 2017, 21:20 #13

Just going off the negativity on here.
When following from afar I think there's a tendency to read the numbers and not the match. This, together with the desperation we all feel in wanting the team to do well, can lead to posts which read more negatively than I suspect is the intention of the poster.

My main concern is when posters show no empathy with the players. This current team never give less than everything, rarely have consecutive bad days (or sessions) and are an absolute credit to themselves, the game and all that Yorkshire County Cricket Club stands for.

These are the good times, enjoy.
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Joined: 10 Feb 2014, 19:23

10 Jun 2017, 04:56 #14

Just going off the negativity on here.
"Remember too that Yorkshireman and Yorkshire women (too a lesser extent. LOL!) tend to be skeptical, honest, straight-talking, blunt, critical and very opinionated by nature - and we take our hobbies and pastimes very seriously."

Hobbies and pastimes?

Come on Alex, this is a Yorkshire cricket forum isn't it?
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Joined: 25 May 2014, 07:15

10 Jun 2017, 09:33 #15

Just going off the negativity on here.
Count yourselves lucky....Yorkshire quite often show spirit and fight back strongly from parlous-looking positions.

In the last couple of years, Lancashire are the opposite and are all too quick to capitulate (surrender) when the going gets tough - the captain Croft is a particularly poor leader and tends to hide and blame others (like last week and the toss debacle) when he makes mistakes. I am surprised he retained his place against Middlesex.

In the final game of last season, Lancs showed very little fight in a relegation cruncher against Warwicks - only Hampshire's surprise defeat against Durham (then Durham's unlucky demotion) saving the Red Rose bacon.

Also, with a tiny bit of resolve from the batsmen in both last year's Roses match and this year's, draws would likely have been achieved with the help of the weather. But spineless batting meant that forecast bad weather came too late to save us.
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Joined: 27 Apr 2007, 17:25

10 Jun 2017, 13:23 #16

Just going off the negativity on here.
"I would agree that the overall tone can be negative, with some very knee jerk reactions to a bad session or a defeat, (or an England call up!). Sometimes you'd be hard pressed to remember what a great side we've had over the past five years or so. I'm too young to remember the last golden era so I appreciate the team we have now even more, having watched a lot of garbage in the 90's!"

I couldn't agree more. If you can't find something to enjoy in the present Yorkshire side - and Yorkshire's England players - then you must be extraordinarily demanding. Perhaps the era of Hirst and Rhodes would have suited you. Or the inter-war years with Sutcliffe, Leyland, Hutton, Verity and Bowes.

Or maybe the problem is one of attitude. Personally, I get more pleasure from being a cricket-lover than from being a "fan", though perhaps I slide into the latter category from time to time. "Fan", for me, is synonymous with the needy and greedy. I think it's Marsker who often comments that the opposition are allowed to play well sometimes.

Having said that, I haven't really found a way to stop my enjoyment being impaired occasionally by ECB decisions!
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Joined: 20 Oct 2013, 20:03

10 Jun 2017, 13:38 #17

Just going off the negativity on here.
Yes, this is one of the great eras, and in some ways the best. The players get on well together and enjoy each other's successes. The great sides of the sixties and earlier had some fairly clear tensions within them
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Joined: 18 Oct 2013, 09:48

10 Jun 2017, 14:39 #18

Just going off the negativity on here.
Relegation talk is just plain daft.

Like talking about chelsea getting relegated after one or 2 defeats.

We are the bookies favourite to win all three tournaments this season and with good justification!
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Joined: 20 Aug 2013, 11:26

10 Jun 2017, 15:05 #19

Just going off the negativity on here.
We may be the bookies favourites, but they don't take into account England absentees in their calculations. We could have 7 of our normal first team missing next Tuesday V Surrey, so how can the bookies make us favourites.








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Joined: 18 Oct 2013, 09:48

10 Jun 2017, 15:25 #20

Just going off the negativity on here.
of course absentees are taken into account! most of our second team could easily play regularly in the first division for any county.

Bookies odds are heavily influenced by money being placed...for us to be favourites it means more fans are backing us despite the absentees, weather, possibility of earthquakes and any other scenario you care to mention.

Of course, in a field of 14, favourites will lose more than win, but it still makes us the most likely winner

current championship odds

yorks 5/2
surrey 7/2
middx 7/2
hants 4/1
bar 12/1

message to all those saying we have no chance

give me 5/1 and i will bet £100......anyone? don't think so!
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