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Joined: 11 Apr 2015, 11:47

24 Jul 2017, 14:16 #11

Who was the last man to top the Yorkshire first class averages in batting and bowling in the same year?
Not any of them. Rhodes and Hirst never took 10 in an innings. Drake and Verity both did it but there was someone who did it way before.
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Joined: 28 Dec 2003, 02:48

24 Jul 2017, 14:27 #12

Who was the last man to top the Yorkshire first class averages in batting and bowling in the same year?
One other statistical superlative Geoffrey owns is the highest all-time first class batting average (56.83) for a cricketer with 35,000 or more runs. (There are 39 batsmen in the 35k club, if I'm not mistaken.)

One wonders how Boycs would have fared in 4-day Championship regimen vs the 3-dayers that were the norm throughout his career. Given the much reduced first class program, it is a record which may never never be broken.

He also co-holds the Yorkshire record 10th wicket stand, pairing with Graham Stevensen for 149 against Warwicks in 1982.
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Joined: 26 Dec 2016, 01:12

24 Jul 2017, 15:46 #13

Who was the last man to top the Yorkshire first class averages in batting and bowling in the same year?
It was Frank Smailes in 1939 v Derbyshire at Sheffield. 10 for 47. Although the first to do it (take all 10 in an innings) was Alonzo Drake.
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Joined: 20 Aug 2013, 11:26

24 Jul 2017, 15:55 #14

Who was the last man to top the Yorkshire first class averages in batting and bowling in the same year?
from the year book.

Drake 10-35 1914
Verity 10-36 1931
Verity 10-10 (including a hat-trick) 1932
Smailes 10-47 1939
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Joined: 11 Apr 2015, 11:47

24 Jul 2017, 16:29 #15

Who was the last man to top the Yorkshire first class averages in batting and bowling in the same year?
Someone did it before Drake. He used to be in the yearbooks but for some reason his achievement vanished from the yearbook.

I'm at work now so I can't tell when his achievement vanished, but he took all 10 before 1900.
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Joined: 14 Aug 2007, 12:51

24 Jul 2017, 16:50 #16

Who was the last man to top the Yorkshire first class averages in batting and bowling in the same year?
Tom Emmett?
George Freeman?
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Joined: 04 Jun 2015, 18:32

24 Jul 2017, 16:56 #17

Who was the last man to top the Yorkshire first class averages in batting and bowling in the same year?
Only got 2007 year book and only the four instances above shown.
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Joined: 13 Sep 2014, 19:41

24 Jul 2017, 17:59 #18

Who was the last man to top the Yorkshire first class averages in batting and bowling in the same year?
Ted Wainwright took 10-31 against Staffordshire in 1890. Staffordshire was never a first class county. At some point someone revised the YCCC Yearbook records and cleansed them of non-first class performances such as this.
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Joined: 13 Sep 2014, 19:41

24 Jul 2017, 18:21 #19

Who was the last man to top the Yorkshire first class averages in batting and bowling in the same year?
Having looked back it appears Wainwright's 10-31 was removed from the YCCC Yearbook between the 1973 and 1974 editions. No explanation given from what I can tell but around this time a number of cricket statisticians and historians across the country started to systematically review and revise a lot of cricket scores and records by going back to original scorebooks and contemporary newspapers. Led to a lot of inaccuracies and inconsistencies being identified and record books being revised. Might have been part of that.
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Joined: 06 Nov 2013, 09:50

24 Jul 2017, 19:15 #20

Who was the last man to top the Yorkshire first class averages in batting and bowling in the same year?
Following your suggestion that a 10 wicket feat occurred in the 19th. century, I have looked into two sources. The oldest year book I possess is for 1923. In the records section, under the sub-heading "Exceptional bits of bowling", there is no mention of a 10 wicket analysis before Alonzo Drake's 10 for 35 against Somersetshire (sic) in 1914. Prior to that, the best analysis was W (Billy) Bates' 8 for 21 against Surrey in 1879.
Derek Hodgson's 'The Official History of Yorkshire County Cricket Club' lists only the four occasions already mentioned in this thread.
One of the fascinations of delving serendipitously into old year books is finding historical information.
For example, in 1922 47,639 attended the three day Roses match at Sheffield. There were four other home attendances above 20,000 ; vs Surrey at Bradford, Nottinghamshire at Sheffield, Kent at Leeds and Leicestershire at Sheffield. Of course Yorkshire won the championship.
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