New t20 proposals: the Pros and Cons

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August 9th, 2016, 12:11 pm #51

Once again the Telegraph has posted misleading and inaccurate statistics. (see the original article)
I'll refrain from commenting on the piece itself.
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August 9th, 2016, 2:04 pm #52

He would have more credibility with his views on cricket if he was not shown as their rugby correspondent!
Whatever you may think of his views, his cricket credentials are impeccable. Capped by England and 17 seasons with Glamorgan.

He also played Rugby for Cambridge University and Lydney.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/england/con ... 15477.html

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Joined: December 8th, 2013, 1:18 pm

August 9th, 2016, 2:24 pm #53

Yes, this is the Steve James who used to play for Glamorgan and who now writes mostly on rugby.

I think he makes some good points, particularly that T20 is the only chance that county cricket has to become more self-sufficient; this is one point that those who both oppose the amount of international cricket being played and also any change to county cricket fail to have an adequate response to- where is the money going to come from then? Whether the best way of achieving a profitable T20 tournament is through a smaller city-based tournament alongside the traditional county T20 is a different matter- I don't think adding yet another competition is the best answer. I don't think there is that much wrong with the current format, nothing that some more support from the ECB, maybe a two league format and England players being involved more often wouldn't help anyway.

According to the Cricketer, the counties remain unpersuaded about the city franchise idea anyway:

http://www.thecricketer.com/default.asp ... icid=42595
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Joined: October 20th, 2013, 8:03 pm

August 9th, 2016, 2:34 pm #54

Who is the target audience for this new competition? Is it people who might actually go along, or is overseas TV viewers, the only group in my view for whom traditional county identities might be of little relevance.

My own guess is that for all the talk of new cricket supporters, particularly young ones, it is the money SKY might pay for a potential big international TV audience that is really what this is all about.
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Joined: December 11th, 2015, 7:11 pm

August 9th, 2016, 6:27 pm #55

I think Sky will have competition from BT, who want to add cricket to their sports coverage when we have the summer break from football, so new money could come into cricket.

T20 crowds at Test grounds,such as 13,000 at Trent Bridge last night!,do seem to be increasing and bringing in people who would never go to a 4-day game. Old gits like me may not like it but, if it helps secure Cricket`s future, perhaps we should bite the bullet and give the new T20 competition a chance.
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August 9th, 2016, 7:08 pm #56

Agreed Idle Man, the main group that a competition played in a short midsummer window suits are TV audiences and more specifically TV companies trying to fill their schedules between the two football seasons- the one group it definitely doesn't work for is those who actually attend matches, as the increase in attendances since the change to the Friday night scheduling shows.
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Joined: August 20th, 2013, 11:26 am

August 22nd, 2016, 5:54 pm #57

The latest article by GB on Cricinfo.

Sums up the pros & cons well.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/county-cric ... 48211.html
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Joined: December 11th, 2015, 7:11 pm

August 22nd, 2016, 6:15 pm #58

Wonder if Northants winning the T20 Final might upset the applecart! Congratulations to them anyway - Yorkshire to do the double now.
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August 22nd, 2016, 7:55 pm #59

Gideon Haigh: "Does cricket make money to exist or does it exist to make money?"

As Stu noted, Dobell's article is more or less a tour de force on this topic and essential reading. Objective, fact-filled and somewhat skeptical of Colin Graves' real motivations. I heartily recommend that you send it along to all of your domestic cricket fans and friends

George Dobell


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Joined: August 21st, 2013, 7:47 pm

August 22nd, 2016, 8:36 pm #60

Dobell is spot-on.

Outcome - the greedy b*****s will destroy the game as we know it. All Graves and Harrison understand is money. Increase income, hold costs, short term gain, sod tradition, no thought to the future. Sky are driven COMPLETELY by revenue and subscriber numbers. Its a nightmare combination. They have zero interested in the game as a game and its overall well being.

Without going over the top, I genuinely believe the future of the game, in the form we love, is at stake.

American sport seems to avoid the worst of this type of thing. Anyone understand how the role of commissioner works in baseball? Do they have a role to preserve the history of the game as well as considering its future welfare?
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