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April 10th, 2017, 10:37 pm #21

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"....Attention now turns to Friday’s trip to Warwickshire, where Yorkshire hope to have a couple of bowlers back from injury.

“Fingers crossed, David Willey and Matthew Fisher will be available,” said Gale.

“They are playing in a four-day second-team game against Lancashire at Old Trafford, and, if they pull through the first innings of that match, they could be available for Friday......"

If Bresnan does not make it, which looks possible as he did not look to good at the end of yesterday, then, hopefully, both of them in. If Tim is ok then Fisher for Shaw.
Our next quickest bowler after Plunkett is probably Fisher. Jared Warner is just turned 20 and is short of experience. He is pretty fast but I worry about his 17 pace run up. I doubt whether he could maintain that in a four day match.
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April 11th, 2017, 9:27 am #22

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"....Attention now turns to Friday’s trip to Warwickshire, where Yorkshire hope to have a couple of bowlers back from injury.

“Fingers crossed, David Willey and Matthew Fisher will be available,” said Gale.

“They are playing in a four-day second-team game against Lancashire at Old Trafford, and, if they pull through the first innings of that match, they could be available for Friday......"

If Bresnan does not make it, which looks possible as he did not look to good at the end of yesterday, then, hopefully, both of them in. If Tim is ok then Fisher for Shaw.
In the end, I didn't make it to Old Trafford yesterday, so I only have the score to go on, like everyone else. 5 for Wainman, 3 for Willey, 2 for Carver, none for Fisher, Rhodes, Waite. The main bowlers all got a decent work out.

Kerrigan has already made inroads into our batting. Let's hope Rhodes can make a score.
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April 11th, 2017, 10:40 am #23

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"....Attention now turns to Friday’s trip to Warwickshire, where Yorkshire hope to have a couple of bowlers back from injury.

“Fingers crossed, David Willey and Matthew Fisher will be available,” said Gale.

“They are playing in a four-day second-team game against Lancashire at Old Trafford, and, if they pull through the first innings of that match, they could be available for Friday......"

If Bresnan does not make it, which looks possible as he did not look to good at the end of yesterday, then, hopefully, both of them in. If Tim is ok then Fisher for Shaw.
I've just been reading some of the earlier comments in this thread. I absolutely agree with the view about our bowlers all being similar in pace; this is even true when the 'big four' of Sid, Jack, Tim and Patto are all playing, though the left arm of Sid does give variety (and class).

Shaw was marginally the quickest against Hampshire, similar to Brooks, I would suggest, though obviously not as good (yet). Coad has a yard of pace and a bit of nip, compared with Patto. The NLOP could become NLOC. One summer does not make a swallow, but this was a good start. And he didn't bowl any worse in the second innings than in the first.

The mighty Plunk was very fast at times, a couple of years back, but seems to have gone from 90+ to around 85- since. Time and injuries take their toll. Fisher and, indeed, Warner are probably both quicker.

I'm with Idle Man regarding Willey in red ball cricket. I can't see he offers much, with bat or ball. Certainly he doesn't offer any pace. Meanwhile, there's a Yorkshire lad doing it for Northants....

Finally, if Ballance isn't going to bowl Rafiq on a pitch with some turn (i.e. for Dawson) then we might as well use a five-man pace attack at Edgbaston, take a risk on someone 90% fit, or play the extra batsman, Rhodes or Waite, who both have bowling capabilities.
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April 11th, 2017, 10:59 am #24

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"....Attention now turns to Friday’s trip to Warwickshire, where Yorkshire hope to have a couple of bowlers back from injury.

“Fingers crossed, David Willey and Matthew Fisher will be available,” said Gale.

“They are playing in a four-day second-team game against Lancashire at Old Trafford, and, if they pull through the first innings of that match, they could be available for Friday......"

If Bresnan does not make it, which looks possible as he did not look to good at the end of yesterday, then, hopefully, both of them in. If Tim is ok then Fisher for Shaw.
Willey would take new ball wickets. Also creating rough outside the right handers off stump would in turn aid Rafiq/Lyth.
Willey getting stick because he isn't from Yorkshire, at the same time the NLOP club have failed to even acknowledge his 39 wicketless overs against Hants. As first choice seamer for the match that's simply not good enough.
Call for TKC..
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April 11th, 2017, 11:42 am #25

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"....Attention now turns to Friday’s trip to Warwickshire, where Yorkshire hope to have a couple of bowlers back from injury.

“Fingers crossed, David Willey and Matthew Fisher will be available,” said Gale.

“They are playing in a four-day second-team game against Lancashire at Old Trafford, and, if they pull through the first innings of that match, they could be available for Friday......"

If Bresnan does not make it, which looks possible as he did not look to good at the end of yesterday, then, hopefully, both of them in. If Tim is ok then Fisher for Shaw.
How many times did he beat the bat, Dwight? Oh, I forgot. You weren't there. But I (at least) did acknowledge that he wasn't at his best, and he is getting older.

Willey may, one day, be one tenth as good. And yes, an 'outsider' does have to prove himself, as Jack Brooks did, despite initial scepticism. What's wrong with that? And what's wrong with taking a pride in our own? 9 of the 11 players were products of our Academy, and three others who are were barred from playing.
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April 11th, 2017, 11:47 am #26

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"....Attention now turns to Friday’s trip to Warwickshire, where Yorkshire hope to have a couple of bowlers back from injury.

“Fingers crossed, David Willey and Matthew Fisher will be available,” said Gale.

“They are playing in a four-day second-team game against Lancashire at Old Trafford, and, if they pull through the first innings of that match, they could be available for Friday......"

If Bresnan does not make it, which looks possible as he did not look to good at the end of yesterday, then, hopefully, both of them in. If Tim is ok then Fisher for Shaw.
Rhodes currently unbeaten on 68 for the 2nd XI, Waite at the other end on 14.
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April 11th, 2017, 11:48 am #27

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"....Attention now turns to Friday’s trip to Warwickshire, where Yorkshire hope to have a couple of bowlers back from injury.

“Fingers crossed, David Willey and Matthew Fisher will be available,” said Gale.

“They are playing in a four-day second-team game against Lancashire at Old Trafford, and, if they pull through the first innings of that match, they could be available for Friday......"

If Bresnan does not make it, which looks possible as he did not look to good at the end of yesterday, then, hopefully, both of them in. If Tim is ok then Fisher for Shaw.
You don't get prizes for beating the bat Dave.

Patterson has gone from being underrated to overrated in a couple of years. Brooks is the match winner but rarely gets the credit he deserves on here, because he bowls a few four balls.

Wickets > Economy.
Call for TKC..
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April 11th, 2017, 12:28 pm #28

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"....Attention now turns to Friday’s trip to Warwickshire, where Yorkshire hope to have a couple of bowlers back from injury.

“Fingers crossed, David Willey and Matthew Fisher will be available,” said Gale.

“They are playing in a four-day second-team game against Lancashire at Old Trafford, and, if they pull through the first innings of that match, they could be available for Friday......"

If Bresnan does not make it, which looks possible as he did not look to good at the end of yesterday, then, hopefully, both of them in. If Tim is ok then Fisher for Shaw.
Speaking as a founder member of NLOP, I think it came into existence in response to his being under appreciated, not to suggest he should have an automatic place for ever. However I would need more evidence than one match to think that his place is now in danger. His fans don't just think he is a very good bowler, but that he makes the others more effective. Gale said last year that he couldn't use Brooks (another great bowler, I don't know where you find these critics) as he did if he didn't have Patto in the side. The other seamers all seem to me to be NLOP members.

As for Willey, yes there's a case for the variety a left armer brings, but the dangerous ones have either the ability to move it both ways (Ryan) or pace/bounce (Footitt). As yet neither of these applies.
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April 11th, 2017, 12:33 pm #29

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"....Attention now turns to Friday’s trip to Warwickshire, where Yorkshire hope to have a couple of bowlers back from injury.

“Fingers crossed, David Willey and Matthew Fisher will be available,” said Gale.

“They are playing in a four-day second-team game against Lancashire at Old Trafford, and, if they pull through the first innings of that match, they could be available for Friday......"

If Bresnan does not make it, which looks possible as he did not look to good at the end of yesterday, then, hopefully, both of them in. If Tim is ok then Fisher for Shaw.
I've not suggested his place is in danger. It was more the point that his failure to deliver was ignored when in fact it was key to our loss.

Also Dave you were indeed correct in your assumption that i wasn't there. Although that doesn't necessarily leave me at a disadvantage. Refering to another thread you suggested Patterson batted a place too high at 8. He infact batted at 9 in both innings.

Call for TKC..
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April 11th, 2017, 12:49 pm #30

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"....Attention now turns to Friday’s trip to Warwickshire, where Yorkshire hope to have a couple of bowlers back from injury.

“Fingers crossed, David Willey and Matthew Fisher will be available,” said Gale.

“They are playing in a four-day second-team game against Lancashire at Old Trafford, and, if they pull through the first innings of that match, they could be available for Friday......"

If Bresnan does not make it, which looks possible as he did not look to good at the end of yesterday, then, hopefully, both of them in. If Tim is ok then Fisher for Shaw.
Otley remarked that (our attack of) "4 fast-medium right handers of fairly similar height became very "samey" yesterday"

When I predicted our fourth place finish, I said that this one-dimensional aspect of our bowling attack was one of my key concerns.
Why several of them are starting the season crocked is both puzzling and worrying.

And if you're not prepared to bowl players, don't pick them!

This is a concerning beginning.
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