India v England Ist Test (Match thread)

Joined: 28 Apr 2014, 00:12

10 Nov 2016, 11:50 #11

Another pretty good day for England.
Excellent knock by Stokes who is maturing into the most valuable team member, well supported by Root & Ali.
The wicket is very different to those in Bangladesh & much less spin/bowler friendly than had been anticipated.
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Joined: 02 Apr 2014, 09:31

10 Nov 2016, 16:24 #12

Great batting effort from England, hopefully with the cracks opening up we can get a decent first innings lead and bowl them out on the final day.

What a special player Stokes is, think he could be dangerous with reverse swing bowling in this match too!!
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Joined: 28 Apr 2014, 00:12

12 Nov 2016, 08:56 #13

A slight first innings lead for England, it will be imperative now not to collapse against Ashwin on a wearing wicket.
I've watched none of the India innings but see that there were 23 byes, was that due to the state of the pitch or bad keeping by Bairstow?
It won't take much for the clamour for Buttler to keep wicket & play JB solely as a batsman to erupt I fear.
Whatever happens there are potentially four fascinating sessions coming up.
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Joined: 07 Sep 2015, 21:28

12 Nov 2016, 09:52 #14

I haven't watched the verdict but the regular commentators haven't made a big thing of it while I've been watching or listening. Watched yesterday highlights and most of the byes seemed to be down the leg side, just missing the pads. To be fair our spinners, though better than of late, really do spray it around a bit.
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Joined: 02 Apr 2014, 17:47

12 Nov 2016, 10:03 #15

Four more wickets for Rashid and his test bowling average is now down to 46.2!
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12 Nov 2016, 12:20 #16

Excellent knock by Hameed who really does look the part but we need to also see him exposed to a constant barrage of real pace.
I think there are two views re not playing him in Bangladesh:
Exposing him to spin on those wickets so early in his career could have set him back & therefore the England management were wise to leave him till this game.
The English management being naturally cautious decided on as few changes as possible & Duckett had played well enough to try as an opener.
I think they made an error of judgement & should have opened with Hameed in Bangladesh but we're all wise with hindsight.
It all sets up an intriguing day tomorrow.
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Joined: 07 Aug 2014, 16:58

12 Nov 2016, 12:53 #17

The search for Cook's partner may finally be over, what composure Hameed has. Coincidentally (or not), Cook and Root made their debuts in India and both immediately looked the part.
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Joined: 17 Oct 2013, 20:44

12 Nov 2016, 14:04 #18

I watched Hameed grow throughout 2016, from my first impression ['right-handed Joe Sayers'] through the determined but relatively strokeless opener who made runs for Lancs at Lord's, to the guy who scored a brilliant Roses century.

He was magnificent today. Nailed on certainty for years to come, just as Joe was [Root, not Sayers!] from his first Test. And wasn't Adil superb, too?

If only England had had the balls to pick Gubbins and Leach, too, and if Anderson and Wood were fit, we would now be close to having a team of 13 or so, balanced for all conditions.

Cook, Hameed, Gubbins - openers
Root, Bairstow, Duckett, Joe Clarke, Ali - middle order, incluing 3 w-keepers and a spinner.
Stokes - world-class all-rounder.
Rashid, Leach - specialist spinners, and
Wood, Woakes, Broad, Anderson - six bowlers, of whom 3 can bat.

Plus, ideally, an Alan Knott, if one were to emerge.

That's 16 players, including 'Knott', with others (such as Keaton Jennings and Sam Curran, plus Billings, Buttler, etc, giving us huge strength in depth, potentially.

Did they really pick Hales? And Compton?
Bowlers win matches
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Joined: 07 Sep 2015, 21:28

12 Nov 2016, 20:46 #19

Have to agree it certainly looks like Hameed is the future. Fingers crossed for his maiden test century tomorrow, first of many if it does happen.
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Joined: 13 Feb 2014, 21:14

13 Nov 2016, 05:04 #20

From a very selfish point of view the rise of Hameed and Duckett potentially covers off 2 of the 5 spots in the order. Add Cook, Root and possibly Ali/Clarke and from a Yorkshire perspective we could have Lyth, Lee's, Ballance in our 11 for quite some time. I obviously mean that merely from a Yorkshire perspective and not to dismiss their personal ambitions.

Having 3 quality proven Yorkshire batsman available is a great place to start. Hopefully add an overseas signing for the majority of the season and we might start to see more structure.
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