City Based T20 Confirmed in County Vote

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September 14th, 2016, 6:26 pm #11

I completely agree with the above from Stu.

Name of the Leeds franchise? I thought Mark Arthur was on record, at a members forum, as saying the only way YCCC would support the proposal was if 'our' franchise was called 'Yorkshire' rather than Leeds. Even with this concession I'm completely against and see this as a stepping stone to the end of county cricket as we know it.
According to today's Daily Mail the teams based at Headingley and The Oval will insist on calling themselves Yorkshire and Surrey.
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Joined: April 22nd, 2014, 6:08 pm

September 14th, 2016, 6:28 pm #12

Its so sad all this just cant get my head around it all , its the beginning of the end imo but as long as the tv companies are happy its all that matters, money has won again over the sport.
Nobody has said the franchise will be called Leeds, the other t20 competition will still be there anyway so you can support Yorkshire in that if this is not your thing, each to their own
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Joined: April 2nd, 2014, 9:31 am

September 14th, 2016, 6:38 pm #13

Well done and high praise to the three clubs who did not sell their sole to the devil (Surrey, Kent & Sussex) and except the ECB "bribe". At least they have some integrity, just a pity that our club was not one of them.

18 counties and 19 votes, presumambly the ECB was the extra vote.

No way will I be watching Leeds with Buttler in their side play Manchester with Root in their side (possible). I watch and support Yorkshire with Yorkshire players in the team.
I'll ask again Stu, who has said they'll be called Leeds, Manchester etc?
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September 14th, 2016, 6:42 pm #14

Nobody has said the franchise will be called Leeds, the other t20 competition will still be there anyway so you can support Yorkshire in that if this is not your thing, each to their own
Yes, let's suppose the Headingley based team decides to call itself "Yorkshire" to cash in on the brand but hires players from other counties not in the magic circle. The new audience they are hoping for will, presumably, be casual cricket followers and likely to be somewhat bewildered if players in the "Yorkshire" team turn up a week or two later in another competition playing for a different team against the real Yorkshire.
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September 14th, 2016, 6:50 pm #15

I'll ask again Stu, who has said they'll be called Leeds, Manchester etc?
If this information is true then it's a very sad day indeed for the future integrity of the County structure which, has served English cricket for 140 years.
It marks the beginning of the end for the game as I have known it all my life.
Should such a competition come into being, I will, naturally, not attend (much as I enjoy 20/20 cricket). Whether the team is called 'Leeds', 'Yorkshire' or 'A large carpark near Bradford' makes not a jot of difference. I wish it utter failure.
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September 14th, 2016, 7:40 pm #16

EYT. I was only using "Leeds" as an example, as it is a tad easier than saying "a Yorkshire based team" every time. No one has stated what the teams will be called. It is irrelevant what the team is called. Unless it is Yorkshire and is made up predominatly of Yorkshire players, I will have no interest at all in watching or supporting any of the games. Root could be playing for Surrey, Bairstow for Manchester, Lyth for Cardiff etc etc.

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September 14th, 2016, 7:49 pm #17

http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/37365637

The essex chairman's comment are worth reading. Seems its an agreement to look at further detail, not yet a done deal.
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Joined: August 21st, 2013, 7:47 pm

September 14th, 2016, 7:51 pm #18

If this information is true then it's a very sad day indeed for the future integrity of the County structure which, has served English cricket for 140 years.
It marks the beginning of the end for the game as I have known it all my life.
Should such a competition come into being, I will, naturally, not attend (much as I enjoy 20/20 cricket). Whether the team is called 'Leeds', 'Yorkshire' or 'A large carpark near Bradford' makes not a jot of difference. I wish it utter failure.
To paraphrase Doubell on cricinfo, CC your days are numbered. City tournament is a block in July (has to be to avoid the football season for Sky TV), 80 - 100 players removed from CC, initially CC continues, player absence undermines the CC, problem solved by further reducing the CC, most likely to 8 games. Those turkeys who today think the ECB payment is a wonderful Xmas present, have indeed just voted for Christmas.

Long term, the Leeds franchise wont use the name 'Yorkshire' - to confusing. Impossible to have one group of players playing as Yorkshire in a T20 tourement in May / June and then at the same ground, possibly a week later, have a different set of players playing the same game at the same ground also called Yorkshire.

I wish nothing but complete and utter failure.

To the barricades people. Seriously beyond the 'savethecounties' site is another aware of genuine fan co-ordinated opposition? Rugby league did it against mergers that Sky wanted and football has done it on occasion. Maybe we can?

I assume YCCC will at least have the good grace to explain to members why they've supported this. Fair play to Surrey, the one big boy to buck the trend.
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Joined: October 18th, 2013, 9:48 am

September 14th, 2016, 8:01 pm #19

If this information is true then it's a very sad day indeed for the future integrity of the County structure which, has served English cricket for 140 years.
It marks the beginning of the end for the game as I have known it all my life.
Should such a competition come into being, I will, naturally, not attend (much as I enjoy 20/20 cricket). Whether the team is called 'Leeds', 'Yorkshire' or 'A large carpark near Bradford' makes not a jot of difference. I wish it utter failure.
Problem is, it will be a success.

So much so, that in future years it will be extended at the expense of county cricket, which will probably be 1 match against the other 7 teams.

Then a few years later the county game will be finished, overrun by the t20 infestation.

The counties, like turkeys voting for christmas, will continue to support this cos its where the money is and they all desperately need the money that this provides.

The only way to counteract this is to make county cricket profitable, and that requires major changes to make it much more attractive to the average man in the street.

Make no mistake, county cricket is critically ill, its in intensive care and like it or not the disease it has is called t20. Unless something is done in county cricket pretty soon, it will pass into the history books the same way that woolworths did.
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Joined: August 20th, 2013, 11:26 am

September 14th, 2016, 8:02 pm #20

To paraphrase Doubell on cricinfo, CC your days are numbered. City tournament is a block in July (has to be to avoid the football season for Sky TV), 80 - 100 players removed from CC, initially CC continues, player absence undermines the CC, problem solved by further reducing the CC, most likely to 8 games. Those turkeys who today think the ECB payment is a wonderful Xmas present, have indeed just voted for Christmas.

Long term, the Leeds franchise wont use the name 'Yorkshire' - to confusing. Impossible to have one group of players playing as Yorkshire in a T20 tourement in May / June and then at the same ground, possibly a week later, have a different set of players playing the same game at the same ground also called Yorkshire.

I wish nothing but complete and utter failure.

To the barricades people. Seriously beyond the 'savethecounties' site is another aware of genuine fan co-ordinated opposition? Rugby league did it against mergers that Sky wanted and football has done it on occasion. Maybe we can?

I assume YCCC will at least have the good grace to explain to members why they've supported this. Fair play to Surrey, the one big boy to buck the trend.
From the Cricinfo article

" The implications for English cricket are significant. Not only will the new T20 competition see domestic cricket played between teams other than counties for the first time in more than a century, it also seems that around 100 players will be taken out of Championship cricket for the month-long duration of the tournament. In the longer term, it is likely that the Championship schedule - already set to be cut from 16 to 14 games in 2017 - will be cut further."

100 players missing from County Cricket for 1 month, and a further cut in the CC!!

The 19th vote was the MCC - what has the future of domestic cricket in this country to do with a "private members club".
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