CHAMPIONSHIP l Hampshire vs Yorkshire at Southampton (Pre-match Thread)

Joined: 11 Apr 2015, 11:47

19 Apr 2017, 11:18 #21

Hi all,
My team for next week;
Lyth, Lees, Root, Handcomb, Ballance,Bairstow, Bresnan, Rashid, Willey, Patto/Plunkett if fully fit and Coad.

I would drop Patto if Plunkett is fully fit. This is no reflection on Patto as i do rate him highly.
Better keep Bairstows' practice quiet or the ECB will want to rest him.
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Joined: 17 Oct 2013, 20:44

19 Apr 2017, 11:27 #22

Hi all,
My team for next week;
Lyth, Lees, Root, Handcomb, Ballance,Bairstow, Bresnan, Rashid, Willey, Patto/Plunkett if fully fit and Coad.

I would drop Patto if Plunkett is fully fit. This is no reflection on Patto as i do rate him highly.
A shame that Hodd, who has batted and kept so well, should be left out for someone without any form behind him.

Leaning is playing for the 2s currently. He, Tattersall and Rhodes all made half centuries yesterday, but Read is the wicket-keeper, not Hodd, so read into this what you wish! Rafiq, Fisher and Shaw all playing.
Bowlers win matches
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Joined: 28 Dec 2003, 02:48

19 Apr 2017, 11:50 #23

Hi all,
My team for next week;
Lyth, Lees, Root, Handcomb, Ballance,Bairstow, Bresnan, Rashid, Willey, Patto/Plunkett if fully fit and Coad.

I would drop Patto if Plunkett is fully fit. This is no reflection on Patto as i do rate him highly.
One of the several negative effects of central contracts is the knock on effect this bizarre system has on the stability and composition of county sides. The seemingly random rules and arbitrary decisions about who rests and who plays, makes stocking and maintaining a match-ready county side very difficult. It essentially rewards mediocrity.

Central Contracts have an effect both on performance and team morale. What with parachuting in players who haven't played in months, and have no form by which to make intelligent sport-related judgements. Whereas solid team players (Hodd) and performers suddenly find themselves dropped for an ECB-mandated player, who often has no form to judge by, and who may have spent his time off "resting" in flying to a golf competition in the US.

Sorry if I appear cynical, but the ECB and its contract system is damaging the very fabric of county game, and in my opinion it's time cricket fans made their thoughts known.

Sorry about the Rolling Stones' reference, but the ECB is essentially out of control.
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Joined: 20 Aug 2013, 11:26

19 Apr 2017, 12:00 #24

Hi all,
My team for next week;
Lyth, Lees, Root, Handcomb, Ballance,Bairstow, Bresnan, Rashid, Willey, Patto/Plunkett if fully fit and Coad.

I would drop Patto if Plunkett is fully fit. This is no reflection on Patto as i do rate him highly.
It is one of my worries. Are Root & Bairstow definately going to score more runs than the two players left out, when neither of them have played any red ball or 4 day cricket for 4 months. They may do, of course, as they are both class players, but it can not be guaranteed. We may end up with less runs, but really hope I am wrong!!!
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Joined: 27 Apr 2007, 17:25

19 Apr 2017, 12:42 #25

Hi all,
My team for next week;
Lyth, Lees, Root, Handcomb, Ballance,Bairstow, Bresnan, Rashid, Willey, Patto/Plunkett if fully fit and Coad.

I would drop Patto if Plunkett is fully fit. This is no reflection on Patto as i do rate him highly.
Nothing is guaranteed in cricket. But the last time Bairstow had a long rest at the beginning of a county season he came back into the team for 9 matches, during which he scored 1,108 runs in 15 innings at an average of 92.33. So, while there is plenty to worry about in today's slightly mad world, I won't be losing any sleep on that particular issue.
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Joined: 21 Jan 2004, 19:13

19 Apr 2017, 12:44 #26

Hi all,
My team for next week;
Lyth, Lees, Root, Handcomb, Ballance,Bairstow, Bresnan, Rashid, Willey, Patto/Plunkett if fully fit and Coad.

I would drop Patto if Plunkett is fully fit. This is no reflection on Patto as i do rate him highly.
I do find it interesting that both Bairstow & Root have been 'seen' at Headingley during matches when they aren't allowed to play for us.
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Joined: 20 Oct 2013, 20:03

19 Apr 2017, 12:45 #27

Hi all,
My team for next week;
Lyth, Lees, Root, Handcomb, Ballance,Bairstow, Bresnan, Rashid, Willey, Patto/Plunkett if fully fit and Coad.

I would drop Patto if Plunkett is fully fit. This is no reflection on Patto as i do rate him highly.
I know and agree. However in all honesty, if Joe and JB were our players and had just recovered from weeks of injury, we'd want them back in the side asap, practice or not. Sorry for Hodd, but he knew the situation when he joined us.
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Joined: 11 Apr 2015, 11:47

19 Apr 2017, 12:48 #28

Hi all,
My team for next week;
Lyth, Lees, Root, Handcomb, Ballance,Bairstow, Bresnan, Rashid, Willey, Patto/Plunkett if fully fit and Coad.

I would drop Patto if Plunkett is fully fit. This is no reflection on Patto as i do rate him highly.
Well i suppose we could always tell the ECB to get stuffed and not pick our England players. Mind you if we did that they would probably be turning out for Middlesex.
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Joined: 27 Apr 2007, 17:25

19 Apr 2017, 13:33 #29

Hi all,
My team for next week;
Lyth, Lees, Root, Handcomb, Ballance,Bairstow, Bresnan, Rashid, Willey, Patto/Plunkett if fully fit and Coad.

I would drop Patto if Plunkett is fully fit. This is no reflection on Patto as i do rate him highly.
For the Hampshire match, Yorkshire should have Lyth, Lees, Handscomb, Root, Bairstow and Ballance available. If Andrew Gale believes Andrew Hodd would score more runs than any of those players, I sincerely hope he will select him.
It has been the case for some years now that the ECB has wanted to own all the players in the CC and treat the best of them as Team England players only. The stated aim was to achieve the best performance in test cricket. There has been a shift in the last two years and the aim seems to have become to achieve the best performance in T20. This is the only possible explanation for the ruling on Bairstow, Woakes, Stokes et al. It is fairly clear that the players not taken up by the IPL were never going to be released to play CC.
The problem with this is that, if the ECB moves away from a commitment to test cricket, the entire financial strategy of the test-match counties could collapse. If the new "cash cow" is not to be test cricket, but a city-based T20 competition, it isn't at all certain how the income from that will be distributed: the counties may just be offered a small fee to lease their grounds out for a day. In that case, the likes of Yorkshire and Warwickshire certainly, and possibly Lancashire, would never be able to repay the loans they took out for ground development. In the case of Glamorgan, the local council and an Irish bank wrote down very large loans by 70%, since the alternative was to bankrupt the county club and get nothing. The ECB, which has enormous reserves, could use them to pay off the loans it forced on the test-match counties through the bidding structure, but I don't think that's going to happen. After all, they could have compensated the Cardiff local authority, but they don't seem to have chosen to do so. If the counties were to become marginalized (as a sort of Ranji Trophy to the IPL), then some counties could presumably be allowed to go bankrupt or do a deal with their creditors, which, from a cynical standpoint, would be win-win for the ECB.
These financial realities are already making it difficult for the test-match counties to plan rationally. Yorkshire's prioritizing of mostly home-grown players is one possible route to CC success and Hampshire's policy of recruiting half the South Africa A team is another. Both are reasonable responses to a random and irrational environment. Personally, I find it all a bit of a mess. To his credit, Andrew Hodd seems to be someone who has embraced an element of randomness and irrationality in his cricketing career and he has two championship medals to show for it. I'm inclined to feel grateful to him for his apparently rather classy attitude.
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Joined: 07 Aug 2014, 16:58

19 Apr 2017, 14:12 #30

Hi all,
My team for next week;
Lyth, Lees, Root, Handcomb, Ballance,Bairstow, Bresnan, Rashid, Willey, Patto/Plunkett if fully fit and Coad.

I would drop Patto if Plunkett is fully fit. This is no reflection on Patto as i do rate him highly.
One thing that is noticeable about Hodd is how extremely popular he seems to be with the other players. Every dressing room needs blokes like him around, Jason Gillespie said much the same about him last season.
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