Captain Root

Joined: 06 May 2015, 12:10

10 Feb 2017, 11:29 #31

Not quite sure what you mean by "more reliable" but I was just stating a fact. Ben Stokes has certainly been involved in a few interesting incidents in the past but he is still only 25 and I'd certainly hope and believe that the added responsibility of leadership roles within the set up would help him mature further. To accuse someone, who at 21 years of age stood up to Mitchell Johnson at Perth and scored a 100 whilst older, more senior players crumbled around him of having "no bottle" is also an interesting take on him!
>> Not quite sure what you mean by "more reliable" but I was just stating a fact.

Well, there are facts and there are alternative facts. If I were attacked by somebody in a bar, I don't think I would necessarily consider that I'd 'been in an actual fight'. That phrase implies a degree of mutual consent.
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Joined: 17 Oct 2013, 18:36

10 Feb 2017, 11:47 #32

If Root does get the test captaincy and he continues to play for England in all formats I wonder if he would be happy to play under someone else in limited overs games. After all Australia, New Zealand and India have the same captain across all formats and they just happen to be the 3 players competing with Root to be acclaimed the best international batsman.
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Joined: 17 Oct 2013, 20:44

10 Feb 2017, 12:31 #33

Stuart, old lad, you do get a bit excitable. Stokes no bottle? I would put his century in Perth - against Harris and Johnson, on a pitch with the grand canyon running down the middle - as the best and bravest I have ever seen. Brian Close could not have bettered it.

I hope they make Broad captain for a couple more years. He'll be fine. Most of his antics are tongue in cheek and self deprecating, as in the Hardy's adverts. Our best Test bowler in all conditions. The Aussies targeted him because they feared him; same reason Warne targeted Bell and Panesar, before that.

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Joined: 06 May 2015, 12:10

10 Feb 2017, 12:41 #34

It's an interesting point. I think there's more to 'bottle' than physical bravery, and you could argue that Stokes' final over in the World T20 final showed a remarkable absence of it.

I wouldn't be against Broad having the job, although fast bowlers are always a risky choice due to the high probability of injury.

I don't know how Stokes conducts himself off-camera, but I think he would struggle with the PR side of the captaincy role. He always comes across as rather shy and 'green' in interviews, whereas Root seems like a more articulate and socially accomplished individual.
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Joined: 21 Oct 2013, 13:37

10 Feb 2017, 13:35 #35

espn reporting broad been interviewed for the job.
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Joined: 21 Oct 2013, 13:37

10 Feb 2017, 13:35 #36

It's an interesting point. I think there's more to 'bottle' than physical bravery, and you could argue that Stokes' final over in the World T20 final showed a remarkable absence of it.

I wouldn't be against Broad having the job, although fast bowlers are always a risky choice due to the high probability of injury.

I don't know how Stokes conducts himself off-camera, but I think he would struggle with the PR side of the captaincy role. He always comes across as rather shy and 'green' in interviews, whereas Root seems like a more articulate and socially accomplished individual.
espn reporting broad been interviewed for the job.
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Joined: 20 Aug 2013, 11:26

10 Feb 2017, 15:20 #37

If Stokes final 4 balls in the T20 Final was not bottling it, then I fail to see what is.
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Joined: 02 Apr 2014, 09:31

10 Feb 2017, 15:38 #38

Someone without an ounce of bottle wouldn't have even had the ball in their hand to bowl the last over, there's a massive difference.
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Joined: 07 Sep 2015, 21:28

10 Feb 2017, 16:11 #39

To be fair the other 4 specialist bowlers had all bowled their overs so the last over needed to be bowled by Stokes, or Root.

We'll never know if Root would have done a better job!
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Joined: 02 Apr 2014, 17:47

10 Feb 2017, 16:31 #40

Seems fairly clear Strauss does not want Root as test captain or they would have choreographed the succession so that Cook resigned one day and Joe was appointed the next.
What has happened since Monday seems like a process to appoint ABR (anyone but Root), while at the same time ensuring Strauss does not look foolish by overlooking the "obvious" choice, beginning with lining up pundits to go public with their preferred alternatives.
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