5th Test | India v England at Chennai (Match Thread)

Joined: 04 Jun 2015, 18:32

16 Dec 2016, 21:52 #21

I recall that Vaughan once had a problem or a flaw when getting out in the 190's at the peak of his powers....

One things for sure, and that is Cook will be happy with our debate as its deflecting from his own problems
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Joined: 06 May 2015, 12:10

16 Dec 2016, 21:56 #22

Whatever the stats, Joe Root is a mighty prodigious talent and though still a youngster by comparison to many of his peers, he's a work in progress at this level who will get even better with time and match experience!

Awesome cricketer, Yorkshire & England be proud!
I think most would agree that Joe needs to convert more of his 50s into 100s. What I (and possibly others?) would object to is the insinuation that laziness is to blame.
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Joined: 15 Sep 2016, 09:35

17 Dec 2016, 08:23 #23

How many times has Joe come in with added pressure caused by the fact that those ahead of him in the batting order have yet again failed to score runs ????
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Joined: 07 Sep 2015, 21:28

17 Dec 2016, 09:29 #24

England might not quite manage 500 but they won't be far off. Pitch seems to be playing pretty well.

We'll gloss over the fact that Stokes and Buttler failed to convert their good starts into double figures! Otherwise good hand from the late order.

Got a feeling we might get a draw or even a win.

Didn't the old England do that quite a lot, lose the series and then get a win, when it didn't really matter.
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Joined: 28 Apr 2014, 00:12

17 Dec 2016, 10:27 #25

Some on here may think that Root's failure to convert 50s is not an issue but he clearly disagrees:
From the BBC website
....Root has made a half-century in each of the 11 Tests he has played against India, but has only converted one of his last seven fifties against all opponents into a hundred.

"It's frustrating to make scores of 70 and 80, then not kick-on. It does wind you up," said the Yorkshire right-hander.

"If I start thinking too much about it, it might detract from my natural game, but big hundreds are what win Tests so that is what I'll be striving for in the new year."....

It's true that there are many others in the England camp more culpable in their on-going failures in this series but he is our best batsman by far & the team needs him to build bigger & longer innings to put more pressure on the Indians.
When he first came into the test team one of his major strengths was the fact that once he'd reached 100 he then went on to much higher scores.
He's probably not as fit as Bairstow - not many are - but I'd back him against most of the others. Possibly his chronic back condition mitigates against him obtaining higher fitness levels.

Overall my main quibble is that I just love to see him bat & feel cheated or at least deprived when he gets out too soon.
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Joined: 24 May 2016, 21:00

17 Dec 2016, 12:23 #26

You posted 'Kohli goes on to make a ton whereas Joe doesn't'. You have yet to make reference to the quality of bowling on each side like it makes no difference, bowlers are allowed to stop players converting scores with good bowling and in England's case not maintaining pressure mainly due to lack of control.
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17 Dec 2016, 12:54 #27

Ashwin is head & shoulders the best bowler on either side in Indian conditions - that goes without saying - but Root has not usually in this series lost his wicket to the unplayable ball, his innings in this match is a prime example.
To be considered the best batsman in the world Root has to overcome the bowling in all conditions in all areas of the world.
He's had good series but it could have been even better, something he acknowledges in the article above that I posted.
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Joined: 07 Sep 2015, 21:28

17 Dec 2016, 16:50 #28

I hope Joe gets loads of big hundreds in the future as long as it's not at the expense of his natural game. Test match cricket needs to be attractive and entertaining if it is to survive.

The sheer accumulations of runs through chanceless cricket leading to bore draws, while the crowd entertains themselves with Mexican waves is hopefully a thing of the past from this England team.

My pet hate at the moment is listening to Jonathan Agnew. If you are out while playing any form of attacking shot you have simply thrown your wicket away to a lazy shot. Mans a buffoon.
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Joined: 07 Sep 2015, 21:28

17 Dec 2016, 16:51 #29

Ashwin is head & shoulders the best bowler on either side in Indian conditions - that goes without saying - but Root has not usually in this series lost his wicket to the unplayable ball, his innings in this match is a prime example.
To be considered the best batsman in the world Root has to overcome the bowling in all conditions in all areas of the world.
He's had good series but it could have been even better, something he acknowledges in the article above that I posted.
(Posted twice for some weird reason)
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Joined: 17 Dec 2016, 16:43

17 Dec 2016, 17:13 #30

5th Test: India v England at Chennai, Dec 16-20, 2016

ENGLAND: AN Cook, KK Jennings, JE Root, MM Ali, JM Bairstow†, BA Stokes, JC Buttler, LA Dawson, AU Rashid, SCJ Broad, JT Ball
INDIA: M Vijay, KL Rahul, CA Pujara, V Kohli*, KK Nair, PA Patel†, R Ashwin, RA Jadeja, A Mishra, I Sharma, UT Yadav

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I think Kl Rahul is better than M vijay..

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