2nd Test | India vs England at Visakhapatnam (Match thread)

Joined: 12 Sep 2014, 18:27

17 Nov 2016, 20:14 #21

My main concern is the welfare of the dog
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Joined: 11 Feb 2014, 20:13

17 Nov 2016, 20:15 #22

And only one of them has caught the catch at backward point that won the County Championship, and that wasn't Willey either.

It should perhaps be noted, that although Willey played for Northants, he probably never went for 12 runs off the last ball of a match there. By the time his (hopefully successful) career is over, he too will have many ups and downs to remember.
If my memory serves me correct Pyrah went for 14 off the last ball to lose us a one day game ? A six off a no ball followed with another six of the extra ball ??
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Joined: 27 Mar 2014, 13:24

17 Nov 2016, 20:18 #23

It was 12 to tie.

No ball six, then a 4.
My darling Maxi
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17 Nov 2016, 20:19 #24

If my memory serves me correct Pyrah went for 14 off the last ball to lose us a one day game ? A six off a no ball followed with another six of the extra ball ??
I love the way the comparison of Pyrah to Willey boils down to about three deliveries....

One may have scored a Roses century but he's not been remotely close to an international one mainly as he was never selected.

I suspect Willey is paid more in line with an overseas player than Pyrah too.

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17 Nov 2016, 20:24 #25

I admit that my previous post may have been partially tongue in cheek, whilst still being true
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18 Nov 2016, 07:51 #26

I thought Willey was an excellent signing from the white ball point of view, but that was not his motivation for coming. As far as first-class cricket is concerned his contribution last season was about the level I would have expected from Rich Pyrah and he's miles from the test side, even further away than he was with Woakes' progress.
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18 Nov 2016, 09:54 #27

I would be happy if we could re-sign Pujara for the majority of the season as our only overseas for the CC.

Top bloke, pleasant, modest and quick to smile, old fashioned maybe but a very accomplished batsman, ideal to build an innings around.

I hope Willey becomes more of a factor in CC this season. In order to succeed in his ambition to get into the test team he's going to have to pull up a few trees for Yorkshire over the next couple of seasons as he has a lot to prove.
Oh Joe. Ran Hameed out then plays a dicey attacking shot to get out. It's a long way to save the follow on at 79-4
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Joined: 28 Apr 2014, 00:12

18 Nov 2016, 10:06 #28

I thought Willey was an excellent signing from the white ball point of view, but that was not his motivation for coming. As far as first-class cricket is concerned his contribution last season was about the level I would have expected from Rich Pyrah and he's miles from the test side, even further away than he was with Woakes' progress.
I always felt that Willey would be the long term replacement for Sidebottom & a very useful acquisition for all short forms of the game that Sidebottom doesn't play.
I wish him well in his England aspirations but he needs far more 4 day cricket to push him into the Test arena.
Sadly for him Sidebottom's longevity & form means that he's getting less games than we may have thought when he signed.
His time will come I believe.
Back to the test, as many of us feared Duckett isn't ready for Test match cricket.
This game will now be a good one to escape from with a draw.
Rashid's drop becomes ever more catastrophic.
But arguably he should never have been fielding in that position & it was by no means straightforward.
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Joined: 07 Mar 2014, 11:28

18 Nov 2016, 10:14 #29

Dropped catches always seem to take on a significance that they don't necessarily merit. Had Kohli been out, India might have been bowled out cheaply but equally someone else might have stepped up to the plate. You just don't know. Yet when there is a bad run out, the reverse argument is rarely made - silly Root, never mind, one of those things. Hameed could have gone on to make a century but there again he might not have. Again you just don't know.

As for Willey, he was signed as a long term replacement for Sidebottom. It didn't quite work out for him this season due to injury, call ups etc, but I suspect the club will want him to play more four day cricket next season if at all possible.
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Joined: 28 Apr 2014, 00:12

18 Nov 2016, 10:36 #30

I totally agree about run outs unless it's a fluke or being run out backing up when the ball flicks off the bowler's hand, there's no excuse.
Re the state of the wickets in Test Cricket being prepared totally to suit the home team's bowling attack I wonder if there is an argument to do away with the toss as in the county championship?
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