1st TEST | Bangladesh vs England (Match thread)

Joined: 12 Sep 2014, 18:27

22 Oct 2016, 17:01 #21

It was good to see the umpires keep them out until the bitter end even though the floodlights had clearly "replaced rather than enhanced the natural light"
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Joined: 07 Aug 2014, 16:58

22 Oct 2016, 19:04 #22

Dear Spanish. Try the record function. You get to sleep in and you can fast forward through the breaks in play
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Dave M;

I think it was only Durham who moaned after losing their last six wickets in about 20 minutes when victory was in sight!
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Joined: 02 Apr 2009, 12:57

22 Oct 2016, 20:38 #23

Does ANYONE understand why Gary was selected for this game......?
I'll be surprised if Bangladesh get to 150.
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Joined: 17 Oct 2013, 20:44

22 Oct 2016, 22:59 #24

Yes, I understand it. It is because Cook and the management are both timid and out of touch. They have never seen Hameed play (or Leach) so they would rather pick the ones they know. We have seen Hameed get 100 in each innings in a Roses match; we have seen Leach take 6-for at Headingley, and we know they're good players.

Having said that, the management treat the players well once they're in the team, and men like Woakes, Ali and Bairstow have responded well to the faith shown in them. Duckett is now getting his chance, which is to be applauded, and he will probably not suffer the fear of failure that lads in his position a few years ago would have.
Bowlers win matches
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Joined: 07 Mar 2014, 11:28

24 Oct 2016, 08:58 #25

So a bit of a mixed bag for our lads. Bairstow had a very good game. Runs and he kept well in difficult keeping circumstances (contrast with the very untidy Buttler in the ODIs). Root had one innings of some substance. I guess the bigger talking points are Ballance and Rashid

We all agree that Ballance should not have been recalled last year but once he was in the squad for this tour, and given that he didn't actually do anything wrong in the warm up games (two not outs I think) then it would have been illogical not to have picked him for the first game. If they don't pick him for the next test, then this is really an admission that he shouldn't have been in the squad in the first place - had Hameed been picked for this game and performed in a similar fashion, they would still have picked him for the next game based on the policy of giving players a few games.

Rashid is an interesting one. Cook clearly has little faith in his spinners and has less faith in Rashid than in Moeen and Batty. I thought Rashid bowled OK, and could have ended up with more wickets- he was also the most economical of the three slow bowlers. On commentary Cork on commentary noted the defensive fields he was being given - too many opportunities for batsmen to take risk free options to rotate the strike. Had Morgan been the captain this game, I wonder if Rash might have ended up with more wickets?

Are our spinners so much worse than the Bangladesh spinners or are they simply better at playing spin?
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Joined: 28 Apr 2014, 00:12

24 Oct 2016, 09:53 #26

Cook captains Rashid in a similar fashion to Gale.
They don't seem to really trust him, contrast that with Morgan & even Buttler or dare I say it Lees.
However, in low scoring games the temptation must be to give to those whom you believe won't leak runs by bowling one 4 ball per over.
Leach's omission for this leg of the tour has to go down as a mistake, Ansari can only have got in due to his better batting. Mind you Batty is no great shakes bat in hand.
Still a good win for England in alien conditions.
Stokes is maturing into a fine all round cricketer & Bairstow is now getting respect for his keeping as well as his batting.
Re the top order it's just like watching Yorkshire!
Bangladesh will be better for the run-out.
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Joined: 18 Oct 2013, 20:29

24 Oct 2016, 13:22 #27

What a good Test. I do hope Bangladesh remain as competitive as this for the rest of the series but my instinctive feeling is that they may have already peaked. I also expect England to bat much better in future games. I hope I'm just being typically English with such expectations. Nice to watch a game almost unlike any other we get to see throughout our usual domestic and home international season.

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Joined: 02 Apr 2014, 17:47

24 Oct 2016, 13:59 #28

This was quite an unusual test match (historically) in that it was never likely to last the full five days.
Hence you can understand why the captains might prefer the more economical finger spinners to the leg spinners who are more expensive but have a better strike rate. It also explains why Cook would go with the more miserly seam bowlers rather than spinners with two or three tail end wickets to take and only a handful of runs to play with.
I don't agree that Gale doesn't trust Rashid. I've seen him several times persist with Rash after he's bowled three or four overs of dross - Rash finds a good ball, a wicket falls and he starts bowling a lot better and more confidently.
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Joined: 02 Apr 2009, 12:57

24 Oct 2016, 14:39 #29

Rashid also has the knack of taking wickets with truly awful balls.
i wonder where he will be playing next season....?
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Joined: 14 Aug 2007, 12:51

24 Oct 2016, 15:01 #30

Yorkshire - I hope. They'll be much weaker without him.
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