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January 26th, 2010, 4:28 pm #11

One:
XFX Radeon HD 4850 1GB
Which looks like this in comparison to the rest.

In addition I bought a hec X-Power Pro 650 650W Continuous @ 40°C ATX 12V v2.2 which I also have in the Mamebox.

It should be interesting. I'll post the results of the MasterSystem 64's performance and benchmarks when I have it hooked up to the RPTV.
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January 27th, 2010, 10:07 pm #12

I have a XFX HD4770 that is about 5-10% slower, but uses a lot less energy. Running great on my 500w PSU.
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January 28th, 2010, 1:51 pm #13

I'm thinking about going to Windows 7 with the new HTPC, it's has the specs that make me want to. I'd like to see what the better Direct X 10 effects look like. I'm already dual booting to XP x86 and x64, I think I'd just replace the x64 with Windows 7 64-bit.

Now that I know that the XP virtual console in Windows 7 only uses a single core and 1GB of RAM no matter how many cores or how much RAM the system has, I think I'll be keeping XP for gaming purposes. I am fairly certain that Windows 7 will handle streaming movies better than even XBMC does, and that the fonts will be much more clear on my RPTV than XP's are even at 120dpi. On the other hand I'd have to format the D partition and reinstall Windows 7.

I should note that I can procure Windows 7 Professional with my wife's student discount for $15.

Thoughts?
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January 29th, 2010, 4:56 pm #14

The PCs have switched rolls and are working well with basic functions. Oddly enough I am *still* having trouble with videos in SFIV, and 1080p videos still skip and speed up in Media Player or XBMC. I guess it really was a codec issue, and it must be caused by K-Lite (the only thing these two systems have in common).

Okay, 3DMark results are below. All tests are done in XP x64.
3D Mark 03:
Athlon X2 4200 2GB (MasterSystem 64 henceforth), HD 4850 1GB
Total: 33855
CPU: 953


Athlon X2 4200, 2GB (Office PC henceforth), HD 4670 512 MB
Total: 22179
CPU: 966
Athlon X2 4200, 2GB, GeForce 8500GT 256 MB
Total: 7107
CPU: 582
Mamebox, Athlon 64 3200, 2GB, HD 3850 AGB 512MB
Total: 24884
CPU: 746

3Dmark 03 is too dated, but I wanted to compare apples to apples so I didn't even update the version before running the benchmark on the MasterSystem 64. It is interesting that the CPU score for the single core Mamebox was higher than the Dual Core Office PC in 3DMark 03. The MasterSystem 64's CPU score is still only marginally better than the Mamebox with effectively the same video card. But since it's the same system as the Office PC, with the only difference being the video card, it is obvious that this benchmark favors the video card. Let's see what 3DMark 05 and 06 do.

3D Mark 05:
MasterSystem 64, HD 4850 1GB
Total: 10576
CPU: 5397

Office PC, HD 4670
Total:10110
CPU:5288
Office PC, 8500GT
Total:4538
CPU:3982
Mamebox
Total:9496
CPU: 2248

Well, the CPU score still improves when the video card generation takes a leap. Look at that top score difference though, the Mamebox only 1000 points below the MasterSystem 64, which should be several times more powerful.

3DMark 06 scores
Master System 64, HD 3850
Total:7319
CPU:1576


Office PC, HD 4670
Total:6386
CPU:1601
Office PC, 8500GT
Total:2239
CPU:1606
Mamebox
Total:5428
CPU: 829

It looks like I'm going to have to update my 3DMark versions and run them again, these tests are barely testing half of what the hardware should be capable of.
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January 30th, 2010, 6:43 pm #15

It works! Street Fighter IV now plays videos just fine. Now to see if I can install, and play, Sega Rally Revo.

Also, it's using the 10.1 CCC drivers, and I don't know if it's the difference between XFX and Powercolor, but they install and correctly display on the TV without me having to log in and turn off the Pal component output. I will never buy Powercolor again.
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February 5th, 2010, 11:47 pm #16

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/featur ... rk_your_pc

Saw this, thought I'd mention it to you, Scott.

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February 6th, 2010, 1:05 am #17

This is a good article. I also like one of the comments I saw though:

"The article states that real-world performance is what you are shooting for when you run your benchmarks, Yet they also want you to disable antivirus, disconnect from your network, manually launch idle process, etc, before benchmarking. Isn't creating a "virtual clean room" tainting your results as much as a synthetic benchmark application or biased video driver would? I don't go through all these preflight steps before playing a game or running Photoshop, so why would I do them before benchmarking and expect realistic, real-world results?"

About the only thing I do when I run benchmarks is what I am willing to do before starting a game. That is usually just running Gamebooster after a recent reboot, while making sure that my hard drives are defragged. I am not going to do the rest of the stuff they mentioned for a "proper" benchmark. But I have noticed that a machine with a freshly formatted hard drive and windows install will always benchmark higher than the same system ever will again.
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February 8th, 2010, 7:20 pm #18

With 135u5 CHDs in hand, I thought I'd post some benchmarks. Settings are Multithreading, Sync to Vertical refresh and draw every frame:

Radiant Silvergun
Low 50% High 93%
Skipping 4/10 maintains 99%

San Francisco Rush
Low 35% High 60%
Skipping up to 10/10 made no difference, the emulation sucks

Ridge Racer
Low 35% high 55%
Skipping up to 9/10 brought 94% speed meh

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December 8th, 2011, 7:11 pm #19

Just to note, after Sonic Generations crawled on my HTPC even at 640x480 I decided to shop upgrades. The fastest processor available for my HTPC's Asus M2V motherboard is an Athlon 64 X2 6400+ 3.2Ghz. So I sniped one for $60 to replace my Athlon X2 4200+ 2.2 Ghz. It should arrive tomorrow or Saturday.

But I cleaned up my system and ran the latest revision of 3DMARK 06 for comparison. I expect a substantial increase in score to at least 10,000 points from the paltry 7,000 I'm getting now. I am also hoping that even if Sonic Generations won't run at a solid 30FPS that Arkham City stops chugging as often. AC is very playable and typically runs at 60FPS in fights, but tends to chug while flying around the city or trying Augmented Reality tests.
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December 12th, 2011, 11:52 pm #20

The upgrade is a no go. The bozo who shipped it wrapped the CPU exposed in bubble wrap, several pins were irreparably squished as a result. Now I get to decide on whether I want this upgrade bad enough to buy another while I fight this seller.
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