Brinno
Member
Brinno
Member
Joined: October 27th, 2009, 8:50 pm

October 20th, 2013, 8:23 pm #11

Thanks Harry, Tim and Pete for your good work! Many a time I looked on WeDig to see if there was news. It helped me through the long days between the excavations. I felt that the coverage of the goings on, improved each year, with photo's, maps, backgrounds. And, some of the feeling of connectness I have experienced with other excavators at Vindolanda is also present on WeDig. Not artificial, but spontaneous and unconstrained. I do hope that while WeDig turns into a dead language, some of that charm lives on. As for the question how modern a medium should be, the irony is that the most "primitive" ones, like clay and wooden writing tablets last a lot longer then the ones that we use today.
Quote
Like
Share

Justin-T
Member
Joined: August 19th, 2009, 4:30 pm

October 23rd, 2013, 8:20 pm #12

We haven't had much response/discussion yet, or suggestions for the future of WeDig, so let me try and stir things up a bit... B)

My initial reaction to closing WeDig and moving us somewhere else is: will that change the level of participation? What aspects of WeDig would be better served by transferring it to Facebook or Twitter or some other social medium? Is there a new feature that could be added to increase posting/participation here or in a replacement "forum"?

Its clear that a major reason for things becoming quieter here this year is the arrival of the official blog and the continued excellent daily tweets from Justin, so we can now follow progress in the trench without the need for posts by volunteers, and in a much more comprehensive and consistent way. The video blogs in particular are incredibly valuable. The presence of the blog & tweets means we also get the experts opinion/interpretation of what's being revealed throughout the season.

However, I'm still interested in reading about/seeing volunteers daily battles in the trench (even if its on an independent blog like I did this past July), so if there's a better method of doing that than using this forum I'm all for it. Part of the reason I did my own blog was simply the ease of including photos, but it also allowed me to control the overall appearance. Maybe there are other benefits too.

Please chime in with your thoughts/ideas...
Quote
Like
Share

Badger
Member
Badger
Member
Joined: May 12th, 2008, 1:10 pm

October 24th, 2013, 12:53 am #13

Justin

I am not on Facebook or any other sort of "social media". So my opinions on this point are not particularly well informed. I prefer "old school" blogs, and very much enjoyed your postings from the trenches. I know you wrestled with technical issues to do them. (note, I have found the Twice Brewed Inn's back drinks lounge a very convenient spot for writing...)

I don't have the answers here but I do have the questions.

1. should a Facebook/social media niche be open to all or only to current and former excavators?
2. should posters be identified?
3. should such an option be independent of the Official Vindo Blog or a subsidiary part of same?
4. should it be moderated?

There are some issues here that are not obvious to the casually interested. The Trust is very motivated to have first word on significant finds, and even gets squeamish about an excess of speculation. Archeologists are funny that way. Of course the mantra of the internet is blabbing about almost anything 24:7. I think there is also a little bit of British/American difference going on as well. That famed U.K. sense of reserve maybe.

Eventually one of two options will emerge. Either the Trust will decide that they will "host" a Facebook page with some sort of qualifications for being on it. Or something informal will pop up, with no official connections and no use of the Vindolanda name in any fashion. Snowglobe and I had fun with some possible monikers..."Pints and Trowels" being my favorite.

So often with complex matters I simply say "That's a glass of beer question." This is one of those.

Expect a formal or informal answer to it sometime in November.

Badger

Quote
Like
Share

Lynn Bridgett
Member
Joined: June 13th, 2009, 8:00 pm

October 24th, 2013, 3:52 pm #14

I will miss this site when it shuts down too. I'm a volunteer at Vindolanda. I'm up there almost every week during the summer months, but still like keeping in touch with the thoughts of the diggers.
Personally I would prefer a Facebook page. The EH sites seem to be very busy these days, both Chesters and Housesteads post something almost everyday(Corbridge less so). It would be good to have a more visible/main stream presence on the internet that could appeal to a wider audience.

Quote
Like
Share

Joined: December 10th, 2008, 4:10 pm

October 29th, 2013, 11:53 pm #15

Hi Peeps,

My tuppence...

I do like the Twitter feed and official Vindo-blog, but they don't really allow for volunteer interaction. I understand the Trust's keen-ness to keep control over what info runs free into the outside world (and I understand that there are very good reasons for this reticence) but people do like to chat. I know that WeDig isn't seeing so much traffic now, but perhaps that’s more a reflection of the medium than anything else. It has outlasted a number of internet revolutions, so it hasn't done too bad, but to everything, turn, turn, turn...

I do use FB and it would obviously be very easy to just set up an informal group in there. If that were to go ahead, it could be a limited group, requiring approval to join, but the limits would depend on how much involvement any admins want. More limits mean more intervention is required by admins. It could be fairly light touch though, and just post a sticky with guidelines for posting.

On the flip side, not everyone uses, or wants to use FB, or any other social media. I can't solve that one, unless we all write letters to one another :P

Quote
Like
Share

snowglobe
Member
Joined: May 6th, 2010, 12:16 pm

November 1st, 2013, 9:46 am #16

The roll call is up for those excavators who wish to add their names to the 2014 season
Quote
Like
Share

Joined: May 14th, 2007, 12:06 pm

November 4th, 2013, 12:50 pm #17

Very sorry to see hiatus looming, BUT, hopefully we can evolve our mutual contact elsewhere with equally, or even more positive results. Let's all resolve to support this. Thanks and loads of thanks to those who have held it all together for all this time - great work! David G
Quote
Like
Share

Claire_M
Member
Joined: November 4th, 2011, 3:49 pm

November 4th, 2013, 5:19 pm #18

Just want to say how useful I found this site ahead of coming to Vindolanda for the first time (makes me sound like an older hand than I am...). Accommodation, what to expect, what to bring. Potted history of the site too.

So thank you very much for that - and for the general friendliness of folks on here. It's one of the nicer forums I've used.

As a communications officer, I can well understand organisations' desire and need to keep some kind of control (Vindolanda definitely isn't unique in this!). The most successful ones at achieving this though, seem to do this by offering something that has the kind of audience-specific element. In this case, several people have stressed the social side of things and I think that it would be useful if the Trust did maintain and moderate something (whether Facebook or something else) similar.

I'm on Facebook and would welcome a social page there for Vindolanda, where new and old diggers could ask questions and share but not everyone is. However, one of my other archaeological interests is (like Sunny *waves*) the Thames Discovery Programme, which has a not-open-to-the-public area forums and information that that the TDP control and moderate. Something like a slimmed down version of this might perhaps be appropriate?
Quote
Like
Share

Justin-T
Member
Joined: August 19th, 2009, 4:30 pm

November 4th, 2013, 6:39 pm #19

Hi Claire,

That sounds very interesting, it looks like its the FROG Network you are referring to? For those of us that are not members (and therefore can't see it), can you give us more of an idea of what goes on behind the closed doors?

There must be a few hundred newly-minted Vindolanda diggers each season, so the number of people on a similar Vindolanda network could quickly become sizeable, how many volunteers take part in TDP per year?
Quote
Like
Share

Joined: December 10th, 2008, 4:10 pm

November 4th, 2013, 11:31 pm #20

Hi Justine (and Claire *waves back*)

the FROG forum is a Ning network. As with any forum, it's only works if people use it, and the FROG network has taken some time to get going. It is going now though and I like it. It's very easy to add documents and photos, blogs, groups, discussions, all that.

There are some clunky things about it, like the fact that if anyone starts a discussion, it has to be approved by an Admin. I don't know if it's possible to just set it up so that no approval is needed, but in any case, it does need Admins, so it'll depend on whether people have the time and capacity to do that.

Something to think about.
TTFN
MooseandHobbes

Quote
Like
Share