Trump cancels trip to Britain

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13 Jan 2018, 04:55 #11

edgeworthy wrote:
The decision to move the US Embassy was taken during the Presidency of George W Bush. And perhaps most importantly of all the Obama Administration could not possibly have sold it for "Peanuts" since THEY DID NOT ACTUALLY OWN IT!!!

No seriously the building was donated for the use of the United States as an Embassy by the Duke of Westminster, the largest landowner in London, and currently richest man in the world under 30. Who I believe gave it freely as a gift and never collected a penny on the lease.
The US Government NEVER owned the site.
The Financial Times says otherwise.

FT says the sale of Grosvenor Sq. paid for the new embassy:

"In 2010 the cost of construction for the new embassy, then estimated to be about $500m, was expected to be entirely financed from the sale of the Grosvenor Square building to Qatari Diar Real Estate Investment Company, which was later approved to convert the site into a luxury hotel in November 2016."

https://www.ft.com/content/9c4bcf88-d11 ... 89cbc96b11


The US Govt. must have owned the lease on the building if it has sold it, no?
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13 Jan 2018, 05:22 #12

Rmor wrote:
edgeworthy wrote:
The decision to move the US Embassy was taken during the Presidency of George W Bush. And perhaps most importantly of all the Obama Administration could not possibly have sold it for "Peanuts" since THEY DID NOT ACTUALLY OWN IT!!!

No seriously the building was donated for the use of the United States as an Embassy by the Duke of Westminster, the largest landowner in London, and currently richest man in the world under 30. Who I believe gave it freely as a gift and never collected a penny on the lease.
The US Government NEVER owned the site.
The Financial Times says otherwise.

FT says the sale of Grosvenor Sq. paid for the new embassy:

"In 2010 the cost of construction for the new embassy, then estimated to be about $500m, was expected to be entirely financed from the sale of the Grosvenor Square building to Qatari Diar Real Estate Investment Company, which was later approved to convert the site into a luxury hotel in November 2016."

https://www.ft.com/content/9c4bcf88-d11 ... 89cbc96b11


The US Govt. must have owned the lease on the building if it has sold it, no?
From The Irish Times :

The embassy has 939 years remaining on a 999-year lease from Grosvenor, the Duke of Westminster's private property company.
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13 Jan 2018, 11:02 #13

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The next bit of embarrassment for Trump in the UK is being organised.  The Royal Wedding will be held in Windsor and in normal circumstances Trump would have an invitation.  There is no real problem of security (after all it is a rather huge castle and there a huge deer park to land a helicopter in).  However, Windsor is a town with small, winding streets and if Trump comes one could expect tens, if not hundreds of thousands of protesters who would overwhelm the police and stop any movement.

I would GUESS that Trump will have "another engagement" in his diary for that weekend, and maybe his long-suffering wife could have a bit of (hopefully enjoyable) bit of glitz.  

Rather sad that his idiocies makes him such a difficult guest.

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13 Jan 2018, 14:20 #14

Why would the President of the USA go to a fifth rate Royal Wedding?  It not  the Head of State for Britain is getting married.  And the British head of state is really just a ceremonial title with no real power.  And Harry is not even next in line, he's fifth

I doubt its even worth sending the Vice President.
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13 Jan 2018, 15:22 #15

Phil Gollin wrote: .

The next bit of embarrassment for Trump in the UK is being organised.  The Royal Wedding will be held in Windsor and in normal circumstances Trump would have an invitation. 
No he wouldn't. The President of the United States didn't get an invitation to Prince William's wedding ( the ambassador went as the US rep) so why would he be invited to William's younger brother's?
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13 Jan 2018, 17:53 #16

hoist40 wrote: Good!

Presidents should not travel so much.

We have ambassadors, embassies, telephones, etc
and twitter...
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14 Jan 2018, 14:56 #17

NoOneFamous wrote: Obama and the Clintons live rent free in Donny's head
That is so funny coming from you. 
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14 Jan 2018, 15:30 #18

Phil Gollin wrote: .

The next bit of embarrassment for Trump in the UK is being organised.  The Royal Wedding will be held in Windsor and in normal circumstances Trump would have an invitation.  There is no real problem of security (after all it is a rather huge castle and there a huge deer park to land a helicopter in).  However, Windsor is a town with small, winding streets and if Trump comes one could expect tens, if not hundreds of thousands of protesters who would overwhelm the police and stop any movement.

I would GUESS that Trump will have "another engagement" in his diary for that weekend, and maybe his long-suffering wife could have a bit of (hopefully enjoyable) bit of glitz.  

Rather sad that his idiocies makes him such a difficult guest.

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Phil that's Bull Sh!t.  Attending important Foreign Weddings and Funerals, such as for heads of State, is the job of the VP, not POTUS.  After all, this shindig is nothing of any real importance.   Even the US VP has better things to do than waste his time.     

Your royal wedding might mean something to your countrymen, the morons of the media, teenage girls(for as long as you can hold their attention, counted in seconds) and other clueless, frivolous fools but hardly rates more than a kind word or two from POTUS, or anyone else with a real job. 
 
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14 Jan 2018, 15:40 #19

OSCSSW wrote:
Phil Gollin wrote: .

The next bit of embarrassment for Trump in the UK is being organised.  The Royal Wedding will be held in Windsor and in normal circumstances Trump would have an invitation.  There is no real problem of security (after all it is a rather huge castle and there a huge deer park to land a helicopter in).  However, Windsor is a town with small, winding streets and if Trump comes one could expect tens, if not hundreds of thousands of protesters who would overwhelm the police and stop any movement.

I would GUESS that Trump will have "another engagement" in his diary for that weekend, and maybe his long-suffering wife could have a bit of (hopefully enjoyable) bit of glitz.  

Rather sad that his idiocies makes him such a difficult guest.

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Phil that's Bull Sh!t.  Attending important Foreign Weddings and Funerals, such as for heads of State, is the job of the VP, not POTUS.  After all, this shindig is nothing of any real importance.   Even the US VP has better things to do than waste his time.     

Your royal wedding might mean something to your countrymen, the morons of the media, teenage girls(for as long as you can hold their attention, counted in seconds) and other clueless, frivolous fools but hardly rates more than a kind word or two from POTUS, or anyone else with a real job. 
 
So Trump is not gonna have a full blown rolling on the floor tantrum when he's not invited ?
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14 Jan 2018, 17:44 #20

Dave AAA wrote:
Phil Gollin wrote: .

The next bit of embarrassment for Trump in the UK is being organised.  The Royal Wedding will be held in Windsor and in normal circumstances Trump would have an invitation. 
No he wouldn't. The President of the United States didn't get an invitation to Prince William's wedding ( the ambassador went as the US rep) so why would he be invited to William's younger brother's?
I wonder if my invitation is in the mail.  According to Ancestry.com I might be a distant relation. 

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