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December 26th, 2017, 9:56 am #31

This would be a perfect fit for the USN Frigate program.
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Joined: September 30th, 2003, 5:00 pm

February 25th, 2018, 8:29 am #32

If the US can sell Fighters, Attack Helicopters, and Frigates, why can't they help with submarines?
 
Is it not possible for some Nations / Companies to surreptitiously give assistance to Taiwan, very quietly help them solve the difficult issues with submarine design, Including providing equipment on the down-low.
Without communications, all I control is my desk, and that is not a very lethal weapon."
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February 26th, 2018, 4:55 pm #33

The biggest problem with US assistance on subs for Taiwan is that the US doesn't build conventional submarines and the USN has no interest in ordering any. So no one wants to sink the capital into D/E production when there is already a lot of established competition globally.
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February 27th, 2018, 4:22 am #34

The last combat D/E subs the US built were the barbel class:
Name Hull number Builder Laid Down Launched Commissioned Fate
Barbel SS-580 Portsmouth Naval Shipyard 18 May 1956 19 July 1958 17 January 1959 Decommissioned 4 December 1989, scrapping delayed due to asbestos insulation, expended as a target 30 January 2001
Blueback SS-581 Ingalls Shipbuilding, Pascagoula, Mississippi 15 April 1957 16 May 1959 15 October 1959 Decommissioned 1 October 1990, museum ship at the Oregon Museum of Science and Industry in Portland, Oregon from 1994.
Bonefish SS-582 New York Shipbuilding, Camden, New Jersey 3 June 1957 22 November 1958 9 July 1959 Not repaired following a fire that killed three on 24 April 1988, decommissioned 28 September 1988, hulked 17 August 1989, hull acquired for tests by Northrop Grumman.
So its been 58 1/2 years since the last commissioned, and 27 1/2 years since the last decommissioned.
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