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8:38 PM - Apr 16, 2018 #11

Viper wrote:

Among other things, sometimes out in the pit.
At the recruit rifle range at Camp Pendleton, outside the front hatch of the squadbay they have these pits at least 12 inches deep in beach sand. Always fun to get thrashed in one of those.

I'm sure Parris Island has it's equivalent.
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12:25 AM - Apr 17, 2018 #12

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1:51 AM - Apr 17, 2018 #13

In late November 1969 I joined the Navy and was sitting with a few dozen other future Navy recruits in a large room at the Navy/Marine Corps recruiting center in El Paso.  At one point a Marine recruiter came out and said in a booming voice, "We're not making our quota this month, so seven of you will come into the Marines."

-Dead silence-       

Of course the whole thing was a joke, God knows how many times the recruiters pulled it, but "Hotel Sierra!"
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Joined: 4:04 PM - Jan 14, 2013

2:45 AM - Apr 17, 2018 #14

lol...I ran into a few poor souls who were drafted into the Marines in those days.  I guess the joke was on them.
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3:29 AM - Apr 17, 2018 #15

Hark wrote: I agree with Sergeante.  Its honest to god absolutely true to the experience of USMC boot camp at MCRD when I experienced it in 1965 which is about a year of two earlier than that depicted in the movie.  The DI's training method was very "hands on" you might say.  I have no idea what it is today but less hands on I think.  
If you were a "Hollywood", then you just missed him.

He was a DI at MCRD San Diego in 1965-67.
He enlisted in 1961, and was medically discharged in 1972* at the rank of SSgt.

It was easy for him to portray a DI in "The Boys of Company C" (Staff Sergeant Loyce, 1978) and "Full Metal Jacket (Gunnery Sergeant Hartman, 1987), having actually been one in the Vietnam era (he reported to Marine Wing Support Group 17 in Okinawa, Japan after his DI stint, and deployed to Vietnam with MWSG-17 for 14 months in 1968-69).


* His bio page says "medically retired in 1971".
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Joined: 11:41 PM - Nov 23, 2006

8:11 AM - Apr 17, 2018 #16

I ran into a few poor souls who were drafted into the Marines in those days. 

Drafted ? 
I thought the USMC were always "volunteers all" to pinch a phrase from Capt Bligh/s court martial
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Joined: 4:04 PM - Jan 14, 2013

11:13 AM - Apr 17, 2018 #17

Razor, the great majority were volunteers but during WW2 and during Vietnam it was possible that your induction would be into the Marines.  Once in they didn't differ in any way from the volunteers except their period of service was only 2 years.

Thanks for that Bager.  To think I could have been at MCRD while Ermy was a DI there is awesome.
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2:52 PM - Apr 17, 2018 #18

sergeante wrote:
Viper wrote:

Among other things, sometimes out in the pit.
At the recruit rifle range at Camp Pendleton, outside the front hatch of the squadbay they have these pits at least 12 inches deep in beach sand. Always fun to get thrashed in one of those.

I'm sure Parris Island has it's equivalent.
I remember those well, and similar pits behind the barracks at San Diego.
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