New Russian corvettes

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New Russian corvettes

Joined: July 14th, 2012, 4:49 am

November 27th, 2017, 7:28 pm #1

https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.p ... -2025.html


Seems like a small but formidable ship on a pretty small platform. Would it be better to have 3 of these then a single DDG? Only 80 crew at risk, very good stand off attack capability, decent cruise range and decent AA capability. Even 100mm gives it good shore bombardment capacity, let alone a flotilla of 3 or 4 of these.
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Joined: April 28th, 2015, 1:38 am

November 29th, 2017, 3:40 am #2

Vaporware...
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Joined: February 26th, 2004, 8:03 am

November 29th, 2017, 12:15 pm #3

mnztr wrote: https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.p ... -2025.html


Seems like a small but formidable ship on a pretty small platform. Would it be better to have 3 of these then a single DDG? Only 80 crew at risk, very good stand off attack capability, decent cruise range and decent AA capability. Even 100mm gives it good shore bombardment capacity, let alone a flotilla of 3 or 4 of these.
Yes, but why do they keep using those old style AK-630 CIWS on newer ships? There are later versions available with double the RoF.

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Per
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November 29th, 2017, 10:54 pm #4

Per Nordenberg wrote: Yes, but why do they keep using those old style AK-630 CIWS on newer ships? There are later versions available with double the RoF.

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Per
Simple, reliable, lightweight, cheap.

"We need to get closer to that Dane mentality" - Rear Admiral Bryant Fuller, NAVSEA Chief Engineer, March 2015 ASNE Day.
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November 30th, 2017, 12:15 am #5

2lapsdown wrote: Vaporware...
Already laid down...these are small ships and they are building lots of similar ones. The Leider class I agree, I doubt they will build that one anytime soon. But apparently the Admiral Nahkimov rebuild has made lots of progress. I think they want smaller ships with long range hitting power due to lack of funding. 
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November 30th, 2017, 12:16 am #6

Per Nordenberg wrote:
mnztr wrote: https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.p ... -2025.html


Seems like a small but formidable ship on a pretty small platform. Would it be better to have 3 of these then a single DDG? Only 80 crew at risk, very good stand off attack capability, decent cruise range and decent AA capability. Even 100mm gives it good shore bombardment capacity, let alone a flotilla of 3 or 4 of these.
Yes, but why do they keep using those old style AK-630 CIWS on newer ships? There are later versions available with double the RoF.

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Per
do you really need more then 4K rpm?Its a small ship, so ammo is probably a bit scarce. 
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Joined: April 28th, 2015, 1:38 am

November 30th, 2017, 12:32 am #7

mnztr wrote:
2lapsdown wrote: Vaporware...
Already laid down...these are small ships and they are building lots of similar ones. The Leider class I agree, I doubt they will build that one anytime soon. But apparently the Admiral Nahkimov rebuild has made lots of progress. I think they want smaller ships with long range hitting power due to lack of funding. 
5 years to build a corvette...
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November 30th, 2017, 1:02 am #8

2lapsdown wrote:
mnztr wrote:
2lapsdown wrote: Vaporware...
Already laid down...these are small ships and they are building lots of similar ones. The Leider class I agree, I doubt they will build that one anytime soon. But apparently the Admiral Nahkimov rebuild has made lots of progress. I think they want smaller ships with long range hitting power due to lack of funding. 
5 years to build a corvette...
LCS 2 took almost as long, plus they are probably waiting on gas turbine development with Ukrainian engines no longer being available 
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December 1st, 2017, 9:49 pm #9

Russia could have had all the Ukrainian turbines the wanted had they not decided to Invade their neighbor.
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December 2nd, 2017, 1:04 am #10

2lapsdown wrote: Russia could have had all the Ukrainian turbines the wanted had they not decided to Invade their neighbor.
Sure, but when the US decided to engineer a coup, they decided to join the free for all and grab what they could. Besides they kinda want their own engine capability and cannot rely on a foreign country for such critical systems. 
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