Navy to scrap Rail Gun

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Navy to scrap Rail Gun

kell553
Joined: 08 Jan 2004, 00:04

07 Dec 2017, 16:29 #1

In short, takes too much power (more than a ship can generate and still operate the rest of the ship), cant recharge fast enough to sustain a 10 rounds per minute requirement, and is very expensive.
The good news is someone was actually thinking ahead and the warhead types planned for EMRG are compatible with being mounted on a standard 5" shell for use on the existing CG/DDG gun.
http://rinf.com/alt-news/newswire/navy- ... t-us-news/

Sorry DDG1000 fanboys. Another part of the future upgrades puzzle falls away.
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MattReloaded
Joined: 29 Nov 2004, 07:40

07 Dec 2017, 17:32 #2

kell553 wrote: In short, takes too much power (more than a ship can generate and still operate the rest of the ship), cant recharge fast enough to sustain a 10 rounds per minute requirement, and is very expensive.
The good news is someone was actually thinking ahead and the warhead types planned for EMRG are compatible with being mounted on a standard 5" shell for use on the existing CG/DDG gun.
http://rinf.com/alt-news/newswire/navy- ... t-us-news/

Sorry DDG1000 fanboys. Another part of the future upgrades puzzle falls away.
Fake news...
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FreshAirSnipe
Joined: 12 Apr 2009, 18:07

07 Dec 2017, 18:42 #3

Can't find it anywhere else online, unless they got a scoop of some kind. Firing EMRG from 5" was known back in 2015, they have been developing the 5" round concurrently with the railgun as low rate long term development. 

http://www.popularmechanics.com/militar ... c-railgun/
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IcelofAngeln
Joined: 21 Nov 2010, 00:24

07 Dec 2017, 18:43 #4

The only other place I can find this alleged story is on Russia Today- hardly a credible site.
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cabear
Joined: 29 Apr 2014, 01:39

07 Dec 2017, 18:52 #5

MattReloaded wrote:Fake news...
Here is the original source: 
http://taskandpurpose.com/navy-electrom ... un-budget/

It's not scrapped yet, but may face problems with getting additional money from Congress for transitioning the technology onto ship for demonstration. Also, it looks like SCO is not much interested in funding this transition either.
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IcelofAngeln
Joined: 21 Nov 2010, 00:24

07 Dec 2017, 19:08 #6

In other words, the *actual* story is that SCO may - may - decide on higher priorities for expedited funding.  Somehow the intertubez (or Kremlin propagandists) translated this into Program Scrapped!
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BBMW
Joined: 16 Mar 2017, 20:22

07 Dec 2017, 19:18 #7

The navy seemed to be betting a lot on this working out.  This is looking like another back the drawing board situation for the Navy.
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cabear
Joined: 29 Apr 2014, 01:39

07 Dec 2017, 19:52 #8

BBMW wrote:bThe navy seemed to be betting a lot on this working out.
And this is very risky.

The real problem is that the Navy's decision-makers, inspired by high expectations and promises from directed energy weapons, have significantly reduced money for R&D on new explosives and propellants. This may lead to some serious consequences:
https://www.usni.org/magazines/proceedi ... ose-rd-gap
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IcelofAngeln
Joined: 21 Nov 2010, 00:24

07 Dec 2017, 20:18 #9

Taking the railgun program off of SCO's list - which isn't a done deal yet - isn't at all the same thing as canceling it.  It just means it doesn't get priority funding.
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BBMW
Joined: 16 Mar 2017, 20:22

07 Dec 2017, 21:10 #10

IcelofAngeln wrote: Taking the railgun program off of SCO's list - which isn't a done deal yet - isn't at all the same thing as canceling it.  It just means it doesn't get priority funding.
Yes, but it also likely means they cant't plan in it being a deployable weapon in any worthwhile timeframe, and need to buy other weapons to do the job it would have.
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